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Jsor
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Cyan507 wrote:
I'm too lazy too look through all the pages but I'm interested in what people thought happened to Jessica. In last frames we see of her there's one or two that show her looking behind Tim to something/someone. I know the camera was slightly below Tim once he falls but she's looking way higher than his eyeline. Since every character par the two we see are dead that only leaves our tall friend to be the perpetrator of Jessica's fate. I'd imagine she's probably a goner as those siren's didn't sound too encouraging. But at the same time she has enough medication to possibly nullify TO's presence so idk.


I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.

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Vesryn
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Jsor wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
I'm too lazy too look through all the pages but I'm interested in what people thought happened to Jessica. In last frames we see of her there's one or two that show her looking behind Tim to something/someone. I know the camera was slightly below Tim once he falls but she's looking way higher than his eyeline. Since every character par the two we see are dead that only leaves our tall friend to be the perpetrator of Jessica's fate. I'd imagine she's probably a goner as those siren's didn't sound too encouraging. But at the same time she has enough medication to possibly nullify TO's presence so idk.


I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


...She didn't have that many lines, I doubt she would have needed cue cards.

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Inglorion
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Jsor wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
I'm too lazy too look through all the pages but I'm interested in what people thought happened to Jessica. In last frames we see of her there's one or two that show her looking behind Tim to something/someone. I know the camera was slightly below Tim once he falls but she's looking way higher than his eyeline. Since every character par the two we see are dead that only leaves our tall friend to be the perpetrator of Jessica's fate. I'd imagine she's probably a goner as those siren's didn't sound too encouraging. But at the same time she has enough medication to possibly nullify TO's presence so idk.


I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


I think you're wrong, and that single frame is the only clue we'll ever get in regards to what happened after Tim collapsed. It's possible TO appeared like he did when Alex was dying, and Tim went into a similar fit and attacked/savages Jessica, being no longer fully in control of his actions. Also, while driving, he has that stone-cold look he gets post-Masky, coughs, and seems to kind of snap out of it. Damn Trosephim for leaving that sequence so mysterious.

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bbat70
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Vesryn wrote:
bbat70 wrote:
GoWeskerMXGT wrote:
Hello everybody, first time writing Wink
I hope you can forgive me but i'm italian and my english can be a little wrong sometimes, so i hope i can explain my theory as well.

I will go straight to the point. I have the big feel that what we have all saw, it's not what really is.

First of all i don't know if you notice, but i don't see on the Twitter page about this last entry. And that i think is really really really strange. We all saw how Jay/Tim have told us things with twitter in those years. And if you add also the fact that Entry 85 ONLY have the youtube link without the "ENTRY #85:" things became to be a little to strange to me.

Second. I think we are all making a big big big mistake about the most important thing in this video. The problem is not this happened, but WHEN happened.
We all think that this entry starts a little AFTER entry 86. But i think all of this is BEFORE Entry 82.
And i think i can explain why.
The last time we saw the mask was in entry 83, and after Hoodie throw it to Tim, he moved her away then they start to run as hell because of TO. In the end of the video he had only the time to grab the pills and the tape before TO appears and he wake up in that field. Then i don't remember to see that mask again before now (if i'm wrong correct me)
My point is that things may have happen like this.
Entry 81 --->
Entry 87 : Tim goes to throw away the mask, Hoodie that is stalking him, recovers it --->
Entry 83 : Hoodie try to give back the mask to Tim

Other strange things to me are :
- No after words after entry 86
- No words from Tim after that and then suddenly this entry WITHOUT anything on Twitter
- That everything is fine just like the TTA vid

It seems to me like there's someone that want us to think that was Tim behind the last 2 entrys.... I have the feeling we have all the info right in front of us, but we can't connect things...

Hope you don't think i'm crazy with all of that ahahah Hope you reply in a good way Razz


I find that putting 87 after 81 is plausible. It is after jay's death, so that explains Tim having his camera, even though that is explained even if it was after 86, but still. And I agree, I feel like it should be Tim behind them, but who knows? Theres no one left to post save jessica, but it seems like he doesn't want her involved anyhow. I find them to be suspicious, the last two entries. Maybe I don't want to accept the fact that this is the end (possibly) but I feel like maybe, if they went with this entry not being chronologically placed and really is after 81 and before 83, there could be another entry. I'm not sure on this one. Everyone has made a lot of good points though. It's a lot to process. But thank you for posting this, another thing to think about imo. And you're not crazy, if you are so am I Very Happy


Well I suppose if you subscribe that there was a third TTA person. And we do have a lot of evidence that Alex is not as good at finishing people off as he thought lol


Hmm that is true as well I'd say. So many things to ponder~

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Vesryn
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 		The dominant theories seem to be

1. It was just cough attack to indicate that Slender is still around and Tim may not have it under control

2. Tim snaps and kills her then goes off to kill himself

3. The Operator takes Jessica

I'm not sure what to believe, it seems the Operator usually only takes people who are dead or injured. And I theorize that if they aren't dead/dying then it returns them, but with less sanity than they had before. So I don't really think Jessica was just taken, but Tim didn't really seem super shaken up like he had just killed another (and this time totally innocent) person.

But also it seems weird that there was so much distortion and the rest was cut off if it was just a cough attack. It does seem like something must have happened

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Inglorion
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Vesryn wrote:
The dominant theories seem to be

1. It was just cough attack to indicate that Slender is still around and Tim may not have it under control

2. Tim snaps and kills her then goes off to kill himself

3. The Operator takes Jessica

I'm not sure what to believe, it seems the Operator usually only takes people who are dead or injured. And I theorize that if they aren't dead/dying then it returns them, but with less sanity than they had before. So I don't really think Jessica was just taken, but Tim didn't really seem super shaken up like he had just killed another (and this time totally innocent) person.

But also it seems weird that there was so much distortion and the rest was cut off if it was just a cough attack. It does seem like something must have happened


It's possible that a combination of those possibilities happened. Like, Tim loses control due to Operator influence, harms Jessica, then she's taken by TO in her weakened state. The sirens could signify someone witnessing Tim assaulting Jessica or maybe just noticed blood/signs of a struggle outside the doctor's office.

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thesaqua23
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 		Jsor wrote:
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I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


The actress (Jessica May) is an experienced professional actress. There's no way she was reading cue cards. www.jessicalynnmay.com/resumes.html[/quote]

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lonsumtravlr
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thesaqua23 wrote:
The actress (Jessica May) is an experienced professional actress. There's no way she was reading cue cards. www.jessicalynnmay.com/resumes.html


Well, they use cue cards in theatre, too, where most of her experience is--but they're very well blocked. Also, in this entry Jessica had comparatively few lines. I doubt with all her training she couldn't have remembered them.

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Jsor
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Vesryn wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
I'm too lazy too look through all the pages but I'm interested in what people thought happened to Jessica. In last frames we see of her there's one or two that show her looking behind Tim to something/someone. I know the camera was slightly below Tim once he falls but she's looking way higher than his eyeline. Since every character par the two we see are dead that only leaves our tall friend to be the perpetrator of Jessica's fate. I'd imagine she's probably a goner as those siren's didn't sound too encouraging. But at the same time she has enough medication to possibly nullify TO's presence so idk.


I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


...She didn't have that many lines, I doubt she would have needed cue cards.


Inglorion wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
I'm too lazy too look through all the pages but I'm interested in what people thought happened to Jessica. In last frames we see of her there's one or two that show her looking behind Tim to something/someone. I know the camera was slightly below Tim once he falls but she's looking way higher than his eyeline. Since every character par the two we see are dead that only leaves our tall friend to be the perpetrator of Jessica's fate. I'd imagine she's probably a goner as those siren's didn't sound too encouraging. But at the same time she has enough medication to possibly nullify TO's presence so idk.


I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


I think you're wrong, and that single frame is the only clue we'll ever get in regards to what happened after Tim collapsed. It's possible TO appeared like he did when Alex was dying, and Tim went into a similar fit and attacked/savages Jessica, being no longer fully in control of his actions. Also, while driving, he has that stone-cold look he gets post-Masky, coughs, and seems to kind of snap out of it. Damn Trosephim for leaving that sequence so mysterious.

thesaqua23 wrote:
Jsor wrote:
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I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


The actress (Jessica May) is an experienced professional actress. There's no way she was reading cue cards. www.jessicalynnmay.com/resumes.html


It was a joke, I know Jessica is a professional actress. The image of her desperately trying to read these cue cards (not just lines, but how to react and stuff) while Tim was acting out a seizure coughing fit popped into my head and was hilarious. I wasn't seriously proposing that that was what happened.

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Jsor wrote:
Vesryn wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
I'm too lazy too look through all the pages but I'm interested in what people thought happened to Jessica. In last frames we see of her there's one or two that show her looking behind Tim to something/someone. I know the camera was slightly below Tim once he falls but she's looking way higher than his eyeline. Since every character par the two we see are dead that only leaves our tall friend to be the perpetrator of Jessica's fate. I'd imagine she's probably a goner as those siren's didn't sound too encouraging. But at the same time she has enough medication to possibly nullify TO's presence so idk.


I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


...She didn't have that many lines, I doubt she would have needed cue cards.


Inglorion wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
I'm too lazy too look through all the pages but I'm interested in what people thought happened to Jessica. In last frames we see of her there's one or two that show her looking behind Tim to something/someone. I know the camera was slightly below Tim once he falls but she's looking way higher than his eyeline. Since every character par the two we see are dead that only leaves our tall friend to be the perpetrator of Jessica's fate. I'd imagine she's probably a goner as those siren's didn't sound too encouraging. But at the same time she has enough medication to possibly nullify TO's presence so idk.


I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


I think you're wrong, and that single frame is the only clue we'll ever get in regards to what happened after Tim collapsed. It's possible TO appeared like he did when Alex was dying, and Tim went into a similar fit and attacked/savages Jessica, being no longer fully in control of his actions. Also, while driving, he has that stone-cold look he gets post-Masky, coughs, and seems to kind of snap out of it. Damn Trosephim for leaving that sequence so mysterious.

thesaqua23 wrote:
Jsor wrote:
Quote:
I know I'm almost certainly wrong and it was intentional, but all I can think of is her reading cue cards Troy was holding up for her part.


The actress (Jessica May) is an experienced professional actress. There's no way she was reading cue cards. www.jessicalynnmay.com/resumes.html


It was a joke, I know Jessica is a professional actress. The image of her desperately trying to read these cue cards (not just lines, but how to react and stuff) while Tim was acting out a seizure coughing fit popped into my head and was hilarious. I wasn't seriously proposing that that was what happened.


I don't get it. Confused

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Marble Hornets
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 		Quite possibly the biggest plot hole in all of Marble Hornets that is inexcusable is Jessica still being alive after Alex took the gun off of her lifeless body. Even if he ASSUMED she was dead, you'd think he'd make sure to finish the job due to how he had attempted to kill her twice before.

If we're supposed to believe Alex thought people were dead after the operator got his hands on them... I can't suspend my disbelief that much, especially when it requires me to believe that Alex himself didn't question why he had been taken so many times and is still alive

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Marble Hornets wrote:
Quite possibly the biggest plot hole in all of Marble Hornets that is inexcusable is Jessica still being alive after Alex took the gun off of her lifeless body. Even if he ASSUMED she was dead, you'd think he'd make sure to finish the job due to how he had attempted to kill her twice before.

If we're supposed to believe Alex thought people were dead after the operator got his hands on them... I can't suspend my disbelief that much, especially when it requires me to believe that Alex himself didn't question why he had been taken so many times and is still alive


If her death and abduction by TO were IG forgeries, then what's to say her purported murder at the hands of Alex wasn't an IG forgery, too? Though that doesn't explain where that camera shot of Alex getting the gun back came from then.

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 		I think people are looking too far into that "Jessica looks at something above and behind Tim" thing. That could've just been her looking around for help or whatever.

But then again, that scene is so damn ambiguous that I don't blame you guys for thinking she saw the Operator.

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Inglorion
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Xman wrote:
I think people are looking too far into that "Jessica looks at something above and behind Tim" thing. That could've just been her looking around for help or whatever.

But then again, that scene is so damn ambiguous that I don't blame you guys for thinking she saw the Operator.


I would be inclined to agree if it wasn't for that very specific facial expression. She's not exasperatedly looking around for help; she's looking at a fixed object that isn't Tim in shock.

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 		Well, I just wanted to say the following: even though I understand why many people are upset at this entry, I personally loved it. Being a latecomer to the series (I started watching it when the third season was already underway), I guess that I simply wasn't invested enough in the mysteries as those who had followed it from the beginning, thus the lack of resolution didn't bother me in the slightest. I do wish things had turned out differently for all of you, though.

That is all, thanks.

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