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The Ending Was:

Unbelievable
21%
 21%  [ 20 ]
Operational
47%
 47%  [ 44 ]
Forgettable
31%
 31%  [ 29 ]

Total Votes : 93

 
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Blackout_2014
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Jordan wrote:
TomCat wrote:
Jordan wrote:
MistrPibb wrote:
TomCat wrote:
Marble Hornets was like that girl who's your best friend but knows you're secretly attracted to her. She strings you along, throwing you a bone every once in awhile -- just enough to keep your interest going. You know she's just going to disappoint you in the end, but some part of you holds onto this delusional hope that things might work out if you hold in there long enough. And then it happens -- she disappoints you, and although you're upset about it, you're not all that surprised. That's basically what Marble Hornets was to me.

^this


Okay, this sounds like your talking about friend zoning and that's kind of an ugly concept. If you feel you can't just be friends with someone, well, then maybe try and get some new friends or spend less time with them if their entangled in your regular social circle or admit your feelings, see if they feel the same way and if they don't, well it's not anyone's fault, it's just what it is and you just have to decide whether you can still hang around them not or if things are just too awkward. You might not want to lose a friend, but ulitmatly, if your in that much agony over it, you have to take responsibility for yourself.

If your over the age of twenty, though, I'll be frank: Grow the fuck up and be responsible for yourself. I have ZERO sympathy for you. You are putting yourself through this misery, not her. You are choosing NOT to do anything about it and placing the blame on her. You could be misreading her and well, that's unfortune. The 'friend zone' is of your own making made of your own indecision and the only one putting yourself there is you.


You can't blame someone for not feeling the same way about you and you can't complain someone for not taking into consideration for feelings they weren't aware of. The girl thinks of you as her friend, you haven't said anything otherwise. It's stupid and illogical and a gross idea created by assholes who can't value a woman's friendship.

Stuff like this is what drives people away from cool stuff like Marble Hornets on the internet, because they feel it's in a space which isn't made for them.

Haha, you can chill out, dude, because it was just an analogy. Also, you seem to have made quite a few unfounded assumptions in your analysis of my post, such as that I was implying that the guy in question never told the girl how he felt. I thought saying "And then it happens -- she disappoints you" was enough to imply that the hypothetical guy had made his feelings known and had been shot down, but I guess you have to spell everything out for some people (which makes me wonder how you were ever able to stomach Marble Hornets in the first place). But wait, why am I playing your game here and getting all into this? It was a relatable analogy for most guys, and that's it. Thanks for trying to teach me a lesson, though. Much appreciated.


Sorry, I wasn't trying to troll you, honestly. It's just that I've seen douches who believe themselves to be 'friend zoned' in real life in relation to my friends and when my friends basically let them down gently, it got real ugly, real quick - with names of bitch, slut and tease being thrown around. Plus, the whole, we both like sci-fi, so clearly we are soul mates thing got thrown in as well :eye roll:

Sorry to hear about that: the girl you were intrested defiently should have been more responsible about your feelings and made a clearer stance on things, rather then just mess you around like that. You defiently deserve better Smile


And no definitive stance was taken.....

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Jordan wrote:
Sorry, I wasn't trying to troll you, honestly. It's just that I've seen douches who believe themselves to be 'friend zoned' in real life in relation to my friends and when my friends basically let them down gently, it got real ugly, real quick - with names of bitch, slut and tease being thrown around. Plus, the whole, we both like sci-fi, so clearly we are soul mates thing got thrown in as well :eye roll:

Sorry to hear about that: the girl you were intrested defiently should have been more responsible about your feelings and made a clearer stance on things, rather then just mess you around like that. You defiently deserve better Smile

Hey -- I appreciate you being a decent person and all, and I hate to be rude here, but I don't know how else I can stress to you that I was speaking purely in the hypothetical, because it was an analogy. Sorry, but there isn't anything else that I think I can say to make this clearer to you. Had I known that my original post would have been misinterpreted as a veiled jab at some girl from my past, then I wouldn't have posted it in the first place. I'm here to discuss Marble Hornets, not take elements from my personal life and work them into my posts in an effort to let random people on the Internet know about my personal life experiences. If you want to learn more about my personal life, however, you can buy my autobiography at Barnes and Noble when it comes out this July.

To get back to Marble Hornets, I have to agree with DHawk314:

DHawk314 wrote:
I always thought speculating about entries and writing really long post about them was really fun but the series is over and arguing about whether not questions were or weren't answered or whether not they should've been really just isn't my thing, but it's been a really fun ride

Now that the series is over and we know how insignificant some of the seemingly important plot points and nuances in the story actually were, I feel less interested in trying to figure out what certain things might have meant in the series. I thought I would really enjoy rewatching the entire series after it ended, but now I've just lost the will to do so because any speculation I come up with is ultimately insignificant since the plot itself was quite basic and uninspired. I feel like I gave this series far more analysis than it deserved, as did many of us. It's a shame, and it kind of makes me wonder if the ending sounded better in the minds of the writers than it actually was.

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Quote:

Hey -- I appreciate you being a decent person and all, and I hate to be rude here, but I don't know how else I can stress to you that I was speaking purely in the hypothetical, because it was an analogy. Sorry, but there isn't anything else that I think I can say to make this clearer to you. Had I known that my original post would have been misinterpreted as a veiled jab at some girl from my past, then I wouldn't have posted it in the first place. I'm here to discuss Marble Hornets, not take elements from my personal life and work them into my posts in an effort to let random people on the Internet know about my personal life experiences. If you want to learn more about my personal life, however, you can buy my autobiography at Barnes and Noble when it comes out this July.


Don't apologize, this is a board for speculation about Marble Hornets. Not looking for something to be offended about.

Unless it relates to Marble Hornets I guess. Then fire away.

Can I get the biography as an e-book?

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Blackout_2014 wrote:
Can I get the biography as an e-book?

You most certainly can. I'll put you on the pre-order list right away. Wink

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Lithp
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There are a lot more complaints than what would seem from the poll. I'd like to gather a list of common complaints & just see how many people hold them, regardless of their overall opinion on the ending. I'm not sure if that would work, though. It would have to be a poll where multiple options can be selected, & I would be worried about missing important complaints.

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Let's see for my complaints about the ending, which was ok.

*I wasn't really expecting anything to come forth about the Operator, but some closure on who the hell keeps making these operator symbols all over the place would be nice.

*The red tower and the tunnel clearly had some significance, but they too got no elaboration.

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*I wasn't really expecting anything to come forth about the Operator, but some closure on who the hell keeps making these operator symbols all over the place would be nice.

This is a question that quite a few people seem to have, but which I thought was answered quite awhile ago (implicitly, of course). After seeing how Jay was "sleepwalking" back in Season 1 circa Entry #19, and then seeing what he was actually up to during that time in Return, I came to assume that Alex was taken aback by finding the Operator symbol in the park in Entry #13 because he had come to learn from past experiences that anytime he saw that symbol, he must had been there "sleepwalking" at some point in the past and drew it there while in that state. Then, finding the symbol when in his normal state, he knew that he had been at that place before while under the influence of the Operator.

So, to me, those symbols were drawn by victims of the Operator while wandering around under his influence. May not be the best explanation for some people, but it works for me.

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Sounds plausible. Don't really know what else to say about it at this point.

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device
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Geez.

I had a feeling lots of people would have issues with the last entry... you can't please everyone, after all.

I really liked the ending... I considered it an fitting epilogue. I'm glad they stuck to their guns and didn't try to explain everything.

As far as I am concerned, the series is a window into the lives of a few people who were in the grip of a horror they couldn't understand and control. They tried to fight it, they tried to investigate it, and they all failed.
We never find out more than the main character, Jay, ever did.

It's a basic tragedy with an open ending... the monster can't be conquered. It's untouchable. The final character flees, and we don't know if he is trying to save others or infect others.

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I had a feeling lots of people would have issues with the last entry... you can't please everyone, after all.


Also, there are clear problems with the ending.

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I really liked the ending... I considered it an fitting epilogue. I'm glad they stuck to their guns and didn't try to explain everything.


They also said that the important questions would be answered, which is only true if you take a very liberal definition of "important."

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It's a basic tragedy with an open ending... the monster can't be conquered. It's untouchable. The final character flees, and we don't know if he is trying to save others or infect others.


I was under the impression that they were trying to not be cliche. Guess I was wrong.

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I wonder why everyone calls this an open ending.

I don't think this can be called an open ending... This ending is not open, it's completely void. The Jessica twist seemed nice at first, but what good is it at the end of the day, if we have no clue what happened to her at the end of Tim talk? She might've been taken by TO right there. Or, for all we know, Tim might've killed her. We don't know anything. Same thing with Tim killing Alex - we don't know wether it was good or bad or what implications of that might be. What good is knowing that Tim killed Alex if we have no knowledge whatsoever what his part in the whole thing was??? Or anyone's part for that matter.

We have no idea how the story started, what was going on and how it ended. We've just seen a bunch of surreal videos and now we can devise a bunch of theories and interpretations one more elaborate than the other.

Sadly, none of them will fill the void that remains.

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Lithp said:
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I was under the impression that they were trying to not be cliche. Guess I was wrong.


Laughing

Good Lord.
I'm sure the guys meant only to entertain you, not emotionally scar you for life.

So you feel that the ending invalidates the ENTIRE series? Surely you must have liked some PARTS of it? Rolling Eyes

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device wrote:

So you feel that the ending invalidates the ENTIRE series? Surely you must have liked some PARTS of it? Rolling Eyes

Personally I really liked some of the entries. I'd say that, basically, MH is made of great parts which fail to fit together as a great whole. (I'm not complaining, it's just an opinion...)

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device wrote:
Lithp said:
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I was under the impression that they were trying to not be cliche. Guess I was wrong.


Laughing

Good Lord.
I'm sure the guys meant only to entertain you, not emotionally scar you for life.

So you feel that the ending invalidates the ENTIRE series? Surely you must have liked some PARTS of it? Rolling Eyes


It's not like the ending of LOST which retroactively ruins the entire series. I will always like the entries I enjoyed which is the majority of them.

I knew they weren't going to give many answers regarding Slender Man and that I didn't really want that from the ending. I really just wanted a sense of closure which the ending really just does not provide.

And I agree that it is a bit cliche and unusually pretentious for Marble Hornets.

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It's not like the ending of LOST which retroactively ruins the entire series. I will always like the entries I enjoyed which is the majority of them.

I knew they weren't going to give many answers regarding Slender Man and that I didn't really want that from the ending. I really just wanted a sense of closure which the ending really just does not provide.

And I agree that it is a bit cliche and unusually pretentious for Marble Hornets.


Yeah I agree. I still enjoy marble hornets as a whole. I'm just the type of person who is incable of headcanon so I can't just ignore the ending.

I do agree about the cliche and pretentious part. One of the reason I liked the series is because it was straight forward and not arty. Sad they decided on an arty end.

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