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Did Marble Hornets go on for way too long?
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fredsolo
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 Did Marble Hornets go on for way too long?
Did the series really need 5 years to reach it's conclusion?

I'm sorry to say that I'm amongst the crowd of people that thought the ending really sucked. It hurts me to say that because I've been a loyal follower of the series for about 4 years and have continued to enjoy it up until the last couple entries.

The ending feels like something that they had planned for a very long time possibly back in Season 1 or 2 with Jay, where it would've been more appropriate. The reason this ending would've been better there is cause the story was smaller, there were less questions to be answered, and characters were not as developed, making the ambiguous ending more understandable from a character perspective.

I just feel that if they were going to end things like this why not do it sooner. There were seriously like 5 or 6 points in the series where they could've done this and it would've fit better.

That brings me to my questions. Did Marble Hornets go on for too long? Did it get too big for it's own good? Would fans be more satisfied if Troy and Joseph ended the series 3 years ago like they planned originally?
Did we learn anything essential during the whole last season?

I personallt think the answers are yes, yes, yes, and no.

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paulisdead18
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Nah, because the length, at some point, wasn't corresponding to actual IG events, and instead was just when the videos got done. They did the best they could to keep a decent schedule and not have months and months without an update. The wait isn't really what's relevant, but the amount of videos, because aside from the 7 month wait, there wasn't any other time where the distance between entries mattered.

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ReverendJ
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It would have been difficult to improve the series much without an increase in resources. A more active social side (IG twitter updates) would have been nice and a few of the episodes could have been merged. Also a general reduction in down time would have made it more cohesive, but time is money.

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gennerx
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No. It still ended with a large following. Which means people didn't get bored and leave in large numbers.

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Blackout_2014
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Re: Did Marble Hornets go on for way too long?
Did the series really need 5 years to reach it's conclusion?

fredsolo wrote:
I'm sorry to say that I'm amongst the crowd of people that thought the ending really sucked. It hurts me to say that because I've been a loyal follower of the series for about 4 years and have continued to enjoy it up until the last couple entries.

The ending feels like something that they had planned for a very long time possibly back in Season 1 or 2 with Jay, where it would've been more appropriate. The reason this ending would've been better there is cause the story was smaller, there less questions to be answered, and characters were not as developed, making the ambiguous ending more understandable from a character perspective.

I just feel that if they were going to end things like this why not do it sooner. There were seriously like 5 or 6 points in the series where they could've done this and it would've fit better.

That brings me to my questions. Did Marble Hornets go on for too long? Did it get too big for it's own good? Would fans be more satisfied if Troy and Joseph ended the series 3 years ago like they planned originally?
Did we learn anything essential during the whole last season?

I personallt think the answers are yes, yes, yes, and no.


I think season three was fine, but they wrote themselves into such a corner they couldn't give all the answers fans wanted. So they did the best they could and ended it. I think it drug on so long because they really were trying to give everyone the ending they wanted. I cannot fault them for that.

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I feel like they shouldn't have killed Jay off.

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TheOperator
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I would have actually preferred it go on longer but take time to address all the loose ends and questions, not give solid answers on all of them but at least address them. I think there should have been 4 seasons. Season 3 could have ended after the events of Entry #72, except there would have been more burned tapes or something like that, going more into the 2006 events and showing how Sarah was taken.

Then season 4 would take more entries to show Tim having to take care of the severely slendersick Jay instead of glossing over it in Entry #74. Take the time to actually go to that hotel to look for Jessica, y'know, Jay's primary motivation.

Give locations like Rosswood, the annex and the three-floored hospital closure instead of just showing them for a couple minutes in #83 and #86 and treat that as closure. Actually, hell, I kinda liked the implications in #83 they gave about the hospital fire and Tim's surgery then they fucked it up in #86 with the pointless revisit and Tim walking through the operating doors to reveal there just being hallways beyond them.

Proper closure on Amy, c'mon! And hell, actual development. If Tim can get all that development, couldn't Amy have got a little? We never got the slightest reason to care about her. Why not more past footage of her?

She went to the college that the finale was set at, why did they find nothing about her there? Instead they jam all these other events into the college. Three damn characters get killed off there, what the hell? Jay's death was alright because of how unexpected it was, just your standard Jay behaviour, dumbly wandering into an abandoned building and then suddenly Alex steps it up and just shoots him. But Hoody? For some reason falls one story and then this kills him despite there being no blood coming from his head? Alex has a crammed final confrontation with Tim there, rushed "closure" on Amy then dies? Couldn't Hoody have died at the annex or three-floored hospital, where much of his arc actually revolved around? Couldn't Alex have died in Rosswood, beyond the tunnel after Tim goes through the tunnel to actually find this damn ark they teased for 5 years?

Also why the fuck did The Operator suddenly feel the need to teleport everyone everywhere when it appeared during its last two present day appearances? What exactly did it gain from that? In Entry #65 it was cool, it was implied that it made wherever it was an eldritch location that it eternally chased you through. Then suddenly it switches to just teleporting you to random locations for no reason because Trosephim think that's closure?

If they instead wanted to go the route of not answering anything, then it indeed went on way too long. If your big Hoody reveal was just that he was Brian, the most obvious damn candidate, reveal that in season 2. If there's nothing beyond the tunnel except... trees and grass... reveal that in season 2. If your amazing unexpected ending is "rocks fall, everyone dies in the last 5 minutes," do that in season 2.

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Blackout_2014
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That ^

I agree with the post above, but it just didn't seem like they had it in them to finish the series out.

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Lytrigian
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I suspect many characters did not get more development strictly for OOG reasons. College friends tend to move on. They're probably lucky they were able to get Brian for the last season.

I'd say no, they didn't need 5 years, if for no other reason than that when they began they had no particular story arc in mind. Had this been a planned story all along it could have been presented much more tightly.

There are also OOG reasons why it took so long to present just 3 seasons. The 87 entries aren't all that much more than the 78 episodes of 3 seasons of a typical American TV show, and they're all much shorter than a TV episode. But they weren't doing this for a living, and they shot entries whenever they could, on no regular schedule.

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aidansean
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TheOperator wrote:
But Hoody? For some reason falls one story and then this kills him despite there being no blood coming from his head?


From what I gathered, Hoody broke his neck and/or back in that fall, and that's why he died "slowly".

TheOperator wrote:
Also why the fuck did The Operator suddenly feel the need to teleport everyone everywhere when it appeared during its last two present day appearances? What exactly did it gain from that?


Based on what Alex was saying, the only way to get rid of the operator is to kill of everyone it's had interactions with. If both Alex and the operator thought Jessica was already dead then the only way for the operator to stick around is to keep Alex away from Tim.

Personally I'm happy the series went on as long as it did. It's been a struggle keeping track at times, but that's all part of the fun. I'd be happy if it went on for another five years, and I'd have been happy if it had ended as early as Entry #14.

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I personally think they could've had Hoody be unmasked way earlier and ended it when Jay died.
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MarbleHead
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Given the ending that we got, yes this could have been wrapped up a long time ago. Since they weren't going to answer any of their own questions anyway.

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Lithp
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Yes. Absolutely. If you don't have much that you intend to reveal, you should have a shorter series so that you aren't spreading plot information out like bread crumbs.

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Dacad
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A lot of the dragging on is due to OOG reasons. I have a friend whom I just this week introduced to the series, and he is hooked. Last I knew he watched Entry 35, but 23 was his favorite so far. I'm going to see if he feels that Season 3 drags a lot. It did for all of us, but that's because we were waiting for new episodes. He'll be waiting for the Internet to load.

Season 3 revealed that Tim had a bigger role in this whole thing than "one of the old film guys went insane and wears a mask now". It wasn't a total waste.

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Lithp
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I should probably clarify, I'm judging length by the actual time that all of the videos take up, not the # of years OOG.

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