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[Moloch]

Maybe I am so set on the "everyone is dead by murder and suicide" because of my frustration with the ending.
First season was scary/creepy, second season started with some chilling moments...last season was running around creating more questions failing to answer the old ones. No more operator symbol in unusual places, no more wondering who might be watching through that window in the background.
I was still in it for the answers lurking this forum and the only way the ending gives me an answer is with death to all.
It still is a booring one: Operator is more or less a disease and if no hosts are left it won't spread and might be contained to Rosswood Park or his Ark.

If Tim and Jess stay alive either Alex was wrong and the pills are a chemical Operator solution and everyone died for nothing (not getting the proper medical treatment to keep everyone sane)...or Alex had a fair point and Tim is going to infect a whole new group of friends to relive this horror over and over again.

[ReverendJ]

I don't think he attacked her, I think they got attacked and he is running away from it hoping it all just stops again.

[Dacad]

Hey guys, this is just something I noticed. I don't know if this is important or not, but Entry 69 is the last time, chronologically, where we saw Tim smoking. Admittedly, we haven't really seen any shots since then of the characters in a more "natural" state. Entry 85, which has no smoking, is the exception.

This is probably nothing, but I just thought Tim suddenly smoking again might suggest that the footage of Tim meeting with Jessica might be an older tape.

[Lithp]

It's likely because, in real life, Tim quit smoking. They specifically got herbal cigarettes just for that final scene.

[Sylvine]

I'd like to believe that he did, but I don't think he did, and I think I have the killer argument against it:

The biggest hints at the "Tim killed Jessica" option are the coughing fit / distortion, and the sirens at 4:08.

But... that would mean TO is around... and takes the body.

So...whence the sirens?

Therefore, no dead Jessica.

However, possibly a re-infected Jessica. 'cause that would explain both the distortion and the sirens - if Jess is in that parking lot having a seizure, an ambulance might be in order.

[DHawk314]

There's official closed captions on the entry now and there's no mention of sirens so take that however you will.

Also if IG Tim quit smoking and then he was again in 87, it's probably because he just killed a man by mangling his neck with a pocket knife and wanted to relieve the stress.

I don't see how Jessica could be re-infected, she said her "side effects" never went away, so as far as I can tell she was never de-infected. Plus, if we are acting like the sirens aren't some random unintentional background thing, maybe it's because when Tim was having a coughing fit on the ground Jessica called an ambulance. Like, especially since she says to him "Do you need me to call someone?"

[GnomonRose]

I believe that Tim took Alex's words to heart. To end TO's presence in the world of Marble Hornets, everyone who'd had to do with it must die. He killed Jessica, drove away even as the ambulances and police were going to the hotel, and then he posted the last entry just after taking an overdose of some harmful drug. Everything was fine, because he too was dead; everyone was now dead and TO had been blocked from further mischief.

[Sha Noran]

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[wassupbro]

You guys have to remember that Alex actually was crazy. He killed Bruce. If you knew this, would you even try to validate Alex's statements about Tim being a source and needing to die?

Also, Tim even points out that there could be hundreds or even thousands of people that are "sources."

These key points support the idea that Tim didn't kill Jessica. The two main theories are that Tim decides to try and live with it, or try to end the operator and kill Jessica and himself to end it. Tim basically lost everything he had. He probably had no reason to live anymore. He also killed his friend. So it is possible that he did kill Jessica. Its ambiguous for a reason, of course, whether or not he killed Jessica and himself.

There is a third possibility though. Tim, just like Alex, was going crazy. When he has his final confrontation with Alex, the operator appears, and only then does Tim brutally lash out and finish off Alex. Afterward, you can't really tell if he is crying or laughing. The same could have happened when he sees Jessica for the last time. He might not have intended to kill Jessica at first.

[Sha Noran]

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[DHawk314]

I've kinda altered my POV on this. It used to seem like no to me, but it's pretty clear now that it's meant to be ambiguous, which sort of means there is no answer. I'm still inclined towards the "no" side of things. If he did I think it had to be Masky. I doubt Tim took Alex's words to heart, there's just no evidence for that.

Oh, and as for what Tim meant by him learning to block it out (convo from a year ago lol,) isn't it pretty much agreed he means the pills? Maybe he's wrong about them, but that's gotta be what he meant.

[Cyan507]

I don't know if he killed her, but I'm almost certain he edited the last Entry to some point or another so that we wouldn't go looking for her.

[Ztakk]

I'm in the camp that he killed her, but really just using OoG stuff.