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[OOG] General Troy Has A Camera discussion
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Foood
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What if Tim (as in the character, Tim Wright) is the narrator of the new series? After moving away at the end of Marble Hornets he encounters a new paranormal entity and a new group of characters. It's a bit of a stretch but it makes sense IG for why it would be on the same channel.


Please don't take this as a stab at you Foood, but I despise that idea so much. Like it's such a cheap idea that he just falls into the same mess all over again. If it's the same universe, I want to be aware of it. Unless I'm mistaken none of THAC are moving so they'll still be filming in Tooscaloosa, meaning the choice of locations isn't changed.


I'm not a big fan of my idea either, but if Series #2 ends up on the same channel, I'd want it done that way for immersion's sake.

Keep in mind that Tim wouldn't be falling into the same mess this time around, but somebody else's mess, with Tim acting more as the documenter/uploader... the "Jay" of this series, if you will.

As I see it, Tim's easily the best actor of the three and his character in Marble Hornets is pretty basic (aside from his condition, which would only be brushed upon in the new series) so I can see his character being reused along with a new cast, while Troy and Joseph work solely behind the scenes.

As for Tuscaloosa... scenes from both towns in Marble Hornets were shot there, and it's a pretty big place. There's a lot of locations we haven't seen that could be used as the setting of another town.

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lonsumtravlr wrote:
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Each Use Sorrow


I wonder if it's an anagram, actually.


If it is an anagram, I can't figure out what it means. I put it through an anagram decoder only a couple minutes ago and found nothing of any interest.

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Foood wrote:
Cyan507 wrote:
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What if Tim (as in the character, Tim Wright) is the narrator of the new series? After moving away at the end of Marble Hornets he encounters a new paranormal entity and a new group of characters. It's a bit of a stretch but it makes sense IG for why it would be on the same channel.


Please don't take this as a stab at you Foood, but I despise that idea so much. Like it's such a cheap idea that he just falls into the same mess all over again. If it's the same universe, I want to be aware of it. Unless I'm mistaken none of THAC are moving so they'll still be filming in Tooscaloosa, meaning the choice of locations isn't changed.


I'm not a big fan of my idea either, but if Series #2 ends up on the same channel, I'd want it done that way for immersion's sake.

Keep in mind that Tim wouldn't be falling into the same mess this time around, but somebody else's mess, with Tim acting more as the documenter/uploader... the "Jay" of this series, if you will.

As I see it, Tim's easily the best actor of the three and his character in Marble Hornets is pretty basic (aside from his condition, which would only be brushed upon in the new series) so I can see his character being reused along with a new cast, while Troy and Joseph work solely behind the scenes.

As for Tuscaloosa... scenes from both towns in Marble Hornets were shot there, and it's a pretty big place. There's a lot of locations we haven't seen that could be used as the setting of another town.
Plot:

After his experiences with T.O., a weary and depressed Tim goes back into paranormal investigation, finding a more deadly threat awaiting him.

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Ya know they didn't actually say it would be in the same universe, they just said it might be. Regardless, if it is, and this only just now occurred to me, isn't that gonna be kinda weird? Cause it like, implies that Jay and Alex both have inexplicable doppelgangers out there (Presuming they're still casting themselves).
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Well, I guess they could've needed all the extra money to pay other actors...

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Can't they just rename the channel when the new series starts and move the Marble hornets stuff to a different one?

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Which would not only defeat the purpose of using the MH channel in the first place, but confuse and piss off people like me who stayed subscribed to that channel for the sake of being able to rewatch MH easily? I guess they could, but why?

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I thought the point of using the MH channel was to use the established subscriber base...how would they renaming it defeat the purpose?

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Can I just say, no one would give a shit about it being on the same channel if not for the "Immersion" factor. Like I keep seeing people say "Oh, it's on the same channel, well you know why they're doing that don't you?" Yeah to reach their fanbase, no shit Sherlock. If it wasn't some weird found footage thing, no one would even bat an eye. I understand people think they should just link it through social media, but honestly consider the numbers:

THAC's Facebook has about 2,000 likes.
THAC's YouTube has about 30,000 subs.
MH's Facebook has about 38,000 likes.

The Marble Hornets YouTube channel had almost 400,000 subscribers. They could use the social media, if they wanted 10% of their fanbase to see it. But why would they? Yeah, obviously this is for their own advertising, but it's also pretty much the only fair thing to do for fans who don't know about that shit, which is clearly most of them.

Also, I've come to another realization, and I think this is more important. Let's say they did do it on another channel for immersions sake, and then linked it through their own social media. That way, the people who see it won't have their immersion ruined, right? Except for one thing. Nobody who sees it will have their immersion intact regardless, because



The only people who's immersion will be ruined are people who wouldn't see the series otherwise. It being posted on the channel is irrelevant to that irrevocable fact. Now, I understand this will still ruin a portion of the fanbases immersion, but I doubt that portion is the entire 90% who don't follow THAC on social media. I suspect the vast majority of that 90% don't believe it's real anyway, or care about immersion, or for that matter know what that word means in this context.

Now I understand that immersion and thinking it's real are different things. I also get that there are degrees of immersion, so even though everyone here has had their's broken (This is an OOG thread after all) they might be more comfortable with another channel anyway. But what this really comes down to is, either 90% of the fandom has their immersion broken, BUT they get to see the series that follows the previous one which they clearly enjoyed, or they go on completely unaware of it. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure the other 10% (Which I remind you everyone in this thread is a part of) already had their immersion ruined by Joseph Touches a Grapefruit.

As a matter of fact if they do continue to cast themselves, and I'd being willing to bet they will, immersion will just be ruined defacto by seeing it. It's hard honestly for me not to see the whole "Posted to the channel" thing as a secondary factor to the much larger Catch 22 that this situation amounts to.
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The only way in which I could see the new series working with MH on the channel is if it became part of "The Rosswood files" or something, idfk.

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ReverendJ wrote:
I thought the point of using the MH channel was to use the established subscriber base...how would they renaming it defeat the purpose?


If they rename it, people looking for Marble Hornets won't be able to find it. If they keep the name, they'll not only find what they were looking for, but also see this new series. And maybe check it out.

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SilentMedusa wrote:
ReverendJ wrote:
I thought the point of using the MH channel was to use the established subscriber base...how would they renaming it defeat the purpose?


If they rename it, people looking for Marble Hornets won't be able to find it. If they keep the name, they'll not only find what they were looking for, but also see this new series. And maybe check it out.


all they have to do is put Marble Hornets in the tags for all the entries or jsut name is the series Marble Hornets/(new series name)

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Making a new "Marble Hornets" channel would still get rid of immersion because suddenly every video would be posted on the same date. Plus that would really confuse the 90% of people who don't follow them on social media but do follow the YouTube, and the new series being posted on the channel is for that 90% in the first place.

Look, there is no way, unless they come up with a reason for it to be on Jay/Tim's channel in universe, for people to see the new series without their immersion being broken. We need to get over that . There's really no elegant solution. Yes, if it was posted on another channel we would still see it, but that's because out immersion is already broken.

The question isn't do they break immersion, it's do they break the immersion of the 10% who's immersion is already broken, and leave the other 90% in the dark, or do they break it for 100% and show everybody. No one is seeing the new series with their immersion intact, except for new fans who might stumble on it if it WAS on another channel.

Then, they could try to build another fan base from the new fans, and also from the 10% who follow social media, but that would be completely stupid from any marketing POV. Why build up a new fanbase? They already have one. Doing something that self destructive marketing wise because of the found footage quirk of the series isn't a realistic expectation.
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New BNYWYDSE Posdcast!

https://soundcloud.com/thacposdcast/bnwydse-the-official-thac-posdcast-episode-16

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If MH goes to a new channel, that 7 month time gap is goone
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