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Sevren
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 Glyphs study and possible locations
This thread will serve as a place for glyph images analysys and hipothesis of places related to the

Well friends, I will try to keep this head post updated with all the information. You can post the information you have and I might be missing, or if your prefer, send me a private message with the link to the post you want me to add to this head post, so we keep the vital information there.

In an attempt to make it short, I will start by posting the list of glyphs, bit.ly links and results:

All glyphs image header:


Rebirth glyph: bit . ly / white-is-body takes us to http://obolensk.org/ , completely in Russian, this is the place of the biological experiments? I think we had some new intel about this, tell me where it is and I will add it here.

Kitsune glyph: bit . ly / azure-is-sky – Takes us to http://cbsu.tc.cornell.edu/ccgr/behaviour/ some sort of behavioural and genetic study on foxes. We know the importance of foxes in their history.

Yamantau glyph: bit . ly / rusty-is-earth – Takes us to this picture http://www.panoramio.com/photo/46143731 on a location in Baskortostán, Russia. I think this is another hint, but no idea just yet. It's really close to Yamantau itself, maybe it's some structure of the School there?

Conception glyph: bit . ly / green-is-sea takes us to our already known site, http://thejunsui.wordpress.com/images-veras-facebook-album-on-gwaschemasche-gone-but-not-forgotten/ with the pop-up of hidden info from Alfa Cypher. Will need to look deeper

Martyrdom glyph: bit. ly / red-is-fire takes us to http://mvd.ru/mvd/structure1 In russian again, will look deeper

Communion glyph: bit . ly / black-is-harmony takes us to this article: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/who-profits-from-terrorism/492813.html on "who profits from terrorism", will read deeper later.

Origin glyph: bit . ly / all-is-unity takes us to http://sacredsites.com/europe/malta/temples_malta.html , the website Sergio pointed before.

For the images, this recopilation by Russian Fan is way better:

Russian Fan wrote:
I missed fact that these were also tweeted individually in addition to Facebook postings!

The tweets have text which you forgot to post and show implication of numeric order?



The Junsui Facebook wrote:


"These SEVEN GLYPHS belong to SEVEN ELEMENTS.

VERA means FAITH in the vastness of the unspoken."



links to pinterest "I - (RE) BIRTH"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #REBIRTH. Remembering small voices and first tastes. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/i-re-birth/







links to pinterest "II - KITSUNE"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #KITSUNE. To see and move as pet foxes. Escape artificiality. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/i-re-birth/






links to pinterest "III - YAMANTAU"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #YAMANTAU. Remember dirt that suffocates and steals innocence. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/iii-yamantau/


NSFW: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/f0/7d/02/f07d02aacb06ee911f3521bb818ef55a.jpg



links to pinterest "IV - CONCEPTION"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #CONCEPTION. Becomes a Mother she that lost or never had one. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/iv-conception/


NSFW: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/50/71/5f50717252efd4640a30f73ab3ae579d.jpg



links to pinterest "V - MARTYRDOM"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #MARTYRDOM. Heart stopped by fire but laughing still. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/v-martyrdom/







links to pinterest "VI - COMMUNION"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #COMMUNION. #HiveMind in total darkness. Weapon of their annihilation. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/vi-communion/






links to pinterest "VII - ORIGIN"—

@VeraNovosi twitter wrote:


#JUNSUI has GLYPH of #ORIGIN. Without end but always our beginning. Manifestation #NEWREALITY. http://www.pinterest.com/blessedleader/vii-origin/




There's a clear pattern here that could prove useful:
Rebirth – White is Body
Kitsune – Azure is Sky
Yamantau – Rusty is Earth
Conception – Green is Sea
Martyrdom – Red is Fire
Communion – Black is Harmony
Origin – All is Unity[/quote]

Also, here I created a simple excel table with the 7x7 glyphs combination. I thought about writing down the possibilities, but I've prefered just to add the two hastags Vercingetorix_Gergovia found out. I've added the images we have so far. They look small but are on full resolution.

Link here EDIT: I've converted it to Gdocs format, so everyone witht he link can view it online and add comments, but not edit (to avoid mischiefs). If you want something added, or have any idea, comment the document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRWssRR7SK0aFn4A14H2yacKZQu5jR0umf7PmY83OaI/edit?usp=sharing

What to do next:

Well, I think our friends Vercingetorix_Gergovia and Dolgonosov pointed out the right way:

- Stablish glyphs correlations
- Look at the lastest images shared by Vera, try to find things we might missed out
- Add them to the "album"
- See if they hint us to locations somehow, not only with coordinates
- Keep checking the url's for information (Maybe also the IP's Sergio37 found?)

I hope you find this work procedure okey, of course I'm open to sugestions. Also, if anyone wants direct conection, ask my privately and I'll give you an email.

EDIT: I've converted it to Gdocs format, so everyone witht he link can view it online and add comments, but not edit (to avoid mischiefs). If you want something added, or have any idea, comment the document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRWssRR7SK0aFn4A14H2yacKZQu5jR0umf7PmY83OaI/edit?usp=sharing

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Keep an eye out for any references to body parts, colors, and animals in future media.

Rebirth
Element: Body
Color:White
Associated Body part: lips
Other: Idea of children and early memory.

Kitsune
Element: Sky (forests?)
Color: Azure
Animal: Fox
Body part: Eyes
Sister: Oksana
Other associations: Idea of freedom/escaping.

Yamantau
Color: Rusty (brown)
Element: Earth
Body part: female genitalia/reproductive system
Sister: Rhea
Other: Idea of confinement.

Conception
Color: Green
Element: Sea
Body part: breasts
Sister: Possibly Rhea's daughter. Maybe Raimonda (Concepcion)
Other: Idea of motherhood.

Martyrdom
Color: Red
Element: Fire
Body part: heart
Sister: Vera
Other associations: Laughing/Happiness? crystals?

Communion
Element: Harmony
Color: Black
Animal: Ant
Body part: brain
Other: Idea of common thought (hivemind), silence?

Origin
Element: Unity
Color: All (spectral)
Sister: Jenya? Gwaschemasch'e?
Other associations: Infinity, manifestation of new reality. Sun?

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kadomony wrote:
Keep an eye out for any references to body parts, colors, and animals in future media.

Communion
Element: Harmony
Color: Black
Animal: Ant
Body part: brain
Other: Idea of common thought (hivemind)



Communion is, almost 86% sure, the vera novosi facebook.

Quote:
Chat with vera:

ME:
who are you?
vera is dead!

VERA:
She always knew this would be.
There is nothing which Vera did not see.

ME:
ok but if vera is dead... who are you?
Oksana?

VERA:
We are a the SIsterhood
Many of us in different countries

ME:
oh ok the community
got it
can i call you vera for simplicity?

VERA:
Yes we are The Sisterhood
Junsui FEMEN Las SGG Anonymous

ME:
vera is shorter




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Going thru Vera's twitter, I noticed a mention of Kosvinsky with Kitsune, so we can probably confirm that location.

Pretty sure Origin glyph should be the temples at Mnajdra.


We'll also have to look out for slightly more "vague" mentions of combinations:
Vera Novosi ‏@VeraNovosi Jul 23
Light up your BODY with LAUGHTER.Strike at THE DISEASE which spreads through OUR MINDS. #MARTYRDOM pic.twitter.com/iEfmwE8fOQ

Seems like this includes Rebirth (body), Martyrdom (laughter and hashtag), Disease (this could be another association for a glyph), and Communion (mind/brain).

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kadomony wrote:
Going thru Vera's twitter, I noticed a mention of Kosvinsky with Kitsune, so we can probably confirm that location.

Pretty sure Origin glyph should be the temples at Mnajdra.


I definitely agree with Kosvinsky Kamen -> Kitsune, and Mnajdra -> Origin.

Dare we hazard a guess that Yamantau -> Yamantau?

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Also, Vera's facebook has just posted a couple of clips from the THENFRIEND video with some old familiar locations.

Vera Novosi wrote:

JUNSUI UNKNOWN SISTER at ‪#‎КРГ2‬ KJERRINGØY


Maybe we should add the THENFRIEND locations to the list of possible correspondences:

- KJERRINGØY, Norway
- ROTHSAY, Australia
- YAMDROK LAKE, Tibet
- KOSVINSKY KAMEN, Russia (we already have this one)

Kadomony, do you still have any images of the line those form that corresponds to the winter solstice solar terminal?

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I just found this message from Yuri from 2009, too:

Yuri Tretiak - 2009 wrote:

There is definitely correspondences between locations. I am not free to disclose exact nature for reasons of operational security of Alfa-Tsentr. But I agree solar cycles are definitely a significance for terrorists. There is also at one sight at least strong presence of auroral kilometric radiation. The western China location I am personally familiar with in Tibet. Although there has been some activities by terrorists associated with Lhasa, the recent incidents have to do with Urumqi, Xinjiang region.
Within last 24 hours our own signal intelligence has started to focus on symbolic meanings of the pictographs used by terrorists to understand what messages they may encode. Of particular interest is possible correspondence between symbols and locations you have detailed. Understanding this might lead to ability to intercept their espionage activities.
Regards,
YT


Seems we are on the right track.

edit:

Yuri wrote:

The western China location I am personally familiar with in Tibet.


According to Dubrovin's emails, that is most likely because Yuri and Pablo Skorzeny tried to assassinate Dubrovin there in a helicopter crash.

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As far as elements corresponding with sisters, here's a relevant bit from Detainee Confession 006 (Alfa-Arkiv):

Alfa-Arkiv, Detainee Confession 006 wrote:

But by then, she did more than speak...
Vera found us a ritual for the Rebirth of the BODY.

We sat on the hot stones of the banya in pairs, facing each other as Vera instructed. Rubbing our own eyelids, we then leaned forward slowly with our eyes still closed and gently kissed. As we did this over and over again, there appeared tiny patterns of light.

Vera told us that this was a way of remembering the first time we sensed the world around us. The first color we saw would be the element our body knew best. Oksana and I both saw blue in our eyelids. But mine was more greenish blue than hers.

This meant that my body knew WATER best while Oksana's preferred SKY.


I think Rhea -> Water is a good bet. We already know Vera -> Fire and Oksana -> Sky.

Which is Jenya? And now there is also Rhea's daughter (Ani?)

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Here's the google earth image


Agreed, that line about water is very clear. Odd that in the other confession she makes note of her dress being brown and Vera's being red though. Perhaps this was just to highlight the effect of Yamantau.

So yes, Rhea as Conception makes sense as it relates to Motherhood. Her daughter should be aligned with Rebirth then, as it's related to Childhood.

As far as the Yamantau glyph, it seems pretty obvious to connect it with Yamantau complex, but I think we should wait for another connection to confirm it.

The THENFRIEND video has a sea-greenish tint, could this be location for Conception glyph?
As well, in the Arkiv, Conception is shown on a hand sculpture. Could be a body part association with it.

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New combo!
Rebirth of Fire

Quote:

Vera Novosi wrote:
AFTER THEIR CYNICAL OLD LIES
COMES A TRUTH THAT IS BORN ANEW

#RebirthOfFire Twitter.com/VeraNovosi




Cross reference here with lips(rebirth) (speaking lies).

Should we also include Czargrad in glyph mentions? Leaning toward Czargrad meaning the khozains and we might have coded mention of them along with glyphs in the future.

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Nice finding. I've edited it in my main post, but I will write it here too:

I've converted the Excel with the glyphs to Gdocs format, so everyone witht he link can view it online and add comments, but not edit (to avoid mischiefs).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cRWssRR7SK0aFn4A14H2yacKZQu5jR0umf7PmY83OaI/edit?usp=sharing

I see two possibilities here: we can just wait for new junsui posts, collect the images and try to work out some sense out of them, or we can try to figure the "next steps" they will take. Maybe we can create new correlations like the ones they do, and try to work out a meaning. Either way, I think we could take a peek at the Excel and add some coments with the ideas, brainstorm a little bit.

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going back thru old facebook posts:
Vera Novosi
knows of the Khozain's cruelty at CORPUS ONE and YAMANTAU. There is another defiled place. HER EYES SLOWLY OPEN and a SMILE flashes.

seems like a glyph code to me!
definitely earth, sky, and fire there.
We'll have to find what glyph is associated with Corpus 1.

Some of the glyphs we haven't associated yet might be linked to Czargrad house locations.

In the image in the OP, the glyph 2nd from the bottom right kind of reminds me of the design of the Burj Khalifa in Dubai:
https://www.google.com/search?q=burj+khalifa+from+top&client=firefox-a&hs=68N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=BVPuU9roD4-NyASFp4D4BA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=766#channel=fflb&q=burj+khalifa+base&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch

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There definitely seems to be number connections with some of the glyphs as well.

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kadomony wrote:
going back thru old facebook posts:
Some of the glyphs we haven't associated yet might be linked to Czargrad house locations.


That's an interesting thought. From Alfa-Arkiv, we know there are confirmed Czargrad houses in:

Dubai, UAE
Yamantau/Mezhgorye/Beloretsk, Russia
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Sydney, Australia

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Number associations from the arkiv:
Sky=7 (maybe odd numbers?)
Water =4 (even?)

it also looks like there's pairings for elements mentioned in the journal. I'll write these up later.

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