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[Trailhead] Splinternails.com 2014
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no_moon
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The lj hetiesmeup is not related to qu31e. See thread:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12969&start=360
Sticking to what information we get from emails and previous clues may be our best bet of solving this thing....

Also, I think I mentioned earlier, but if not, my apologies. I was in error about there being new photos. The "shimbashi" is a small bit of the larger "tokyo" picture. I went back and examined them more closely in the wiki earlier.

Update: going through the Vampires song right now; I've made out some additional lyrics so I'll put those up here.
Additionally, I noticed that the words "silent," "vampires" and "splinternails" are long and drawn out, so putting them together may yield another clue?

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There's something here that's deeper than the sea
Underneath the flesh and bones inside of me
Desperate questions only linger in my head
Are you sure you are alive you could be dead

Somewhere within my soul
Deep in the dark in the down, down, down, down
Vampires are dancing and make'n me spin
They ask me to let go of life and give in

Reach into your heart to find your song skips here??
Hold it tightly song skips here??
Reach into the sky and kill each star
That shines too brightly

Somewhere within my soul
Deep in the dark and the down down down
Vampires are dancing and make'n me spin
They're asking me to let go of life and give in.

sounds like someone is talking underneath this here

I can feel the pain and loneliness forming inside you
I can hear the sounds of my empty room
But you [...] to kissed my whole life to the moonlight
She's a blessing in the night for the (moment) not too soon

Somewhere within my soul
Deep in the dark and the down down down
Vampires are dancing and make'n me spin
Begging me to let go of life and give in

Somewhere within my soul
Deep in the dark and the down down down
Vampires are dancing and make'n me spin
Begging me to let go of life and give in


Still can't make out that one lyric.
To be honest, this just reminded me of the musical Dance of the Vampires... I checked over the lyrics, though, and couldn't find any similar songs.
The song quality is quite degraded, which makes me think it was recorded with a mic up against a speaker, from a cd that skipped or even a cassette tape. That's what we used to do when we made mixed tapes for people in the 90s....[/b]

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supersekretsrsly
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I also thought it could have been from the musical you mention but I now think that's a firm no. And I agree that it's probably a 90s track.

There is a masked voice that played from 2:50 - 3:10 (very roughly) but my audacity skills are inadequate for the job. Sped up by 1.4x you can hear a distinct voice. See link below:

http://vocaroo.com/i/s12WMHTkBN55

"as you easily see (even?) *indecipherable* ... (for) themself/themselves for the taking*

It's not clear if this has been edited in, or was an easter egg in the original song.

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I can feel the pain and loneliness forming inside you
I can hear the sounds of my empty room
But you [...] to kissed my whole life to the moonlight
She's a blessing in the night for the (moment) not too soon


I'm hearing:

I can feel the pain and loneliness I'm due (possibly and you)
I can hear the sounds of my empty room
But you (very obscure) kissed my whole life to the moon
She's a blessing in the night for the moment not too soon

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no_moon
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supersekretsrsly, that's seriously awesome. I vote it's "themselves" but to hear anything else clearly is somehow beyond my computer speakers' capabilities...

Also, upon visiting old posts, I noticed that sparkrent's journal lists "dance of the vampires" as the music he/she was listening to. It is probably this song, no?

I seem to recall that splinternails listed that as soundtracks at some point too....

Update
Following the Tanz der Vampire wiki, I found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampires_Rock
It's a musical by Meat Loaf, British, based off of the other musical. That sounds much more likely, no?

One more thing:
Does anyone think that because "g10sha" (jitensha) was Japanese, that these others might also be?
I think some of the numbers are not done rightly, though, as only "gtensha" seems to work straight. The others do not make sense, mostly because there aren't enough vowels to pronounce them.

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010108 - gsh10a - epic - left hand w/ writing
311001 - aixgsh - history - person w/ goggles
111511 - hg01as - love - bicycle
011103 - hga01s - music - drawing?
151415 - g10sha - tragedy - poem
011005 - agixsh - sacred - typed letter
201921 - agsixh - choral - absinthe, A-spades, gun
311005 - h01gas - comedy - blurry drawing
311007 - gs10ha - astronomy - another typed letter

gsh10a - gshtena
aixgsh - aninegsh
hg01as - hgoneas
hga01s - hgaones
g10sha - gtensha
agixsh - agninesh
agsixh - agnineh
h01gas - honeas
gs10ha - gstenha


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supersekretsrsly
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I do recall reading that - Splinternails listed the song as Dance of the Vampires, his mood as sleepwalking (spaced I believe) and his location as an anagram of splinterworld.

It's funny because I also went down the path of looking at the British band you mention. Their youtube channel only had ~5 songs and they were remakes of rock classics. A poor candidate for original songwriting plus none of them sound like the lead singer in vampires.

The numbers to the left of gsh10a etc. refer to dates different things and suggest a connection exists between them ("one + two is three ..."). I think I've solved it:

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010108 - gsh10a - epic - left hand w/ writing
311001 - aixgsh - history - person w/ goggles
111511 - hg01as - love - bicycle
011103 - hga01s - music - drawing?
151415 - g10sha - tragedy - poem
011005 - agixsh - sacred - typed letter
201921 - agsixh - choral - absinthe, A-spades, gun
311005 - h01gas - comedy - blurry drawing
311007 - gs10ha - astronomy - another typed letter


The numbers on the items in red are dates. The 31st October, Splinternail's birthday.

Translating the items in blue reveals KOK ONO TSU. This is an anagram for the Japanese word for nine ここのつ. I think it's unlikely but possible this is the third answer melpomene sought.

And finally the items in green... don't matter and I haven't tackled them. Whatever the answer is shouldn't be of any consequence.

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no_moon
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I do recall reading that - Splinternails listed the song as Dance of the Vampires, his mood as sleepwalking (spaced I believe) and his location as an anagram of splinterworld.


Yes, great. I'm not crazy or having deja vu!

Re: the band... yeah. I should have looked at the website more closely. There don't seem to be more original songs. I checked out the movie associated with the musical (1967 or something) and completely unrelated. I also checked out some other more recent bands, but none of them have the right sound. It should be 80s/90s, I think.
The singer sounds very Billy Corgan, but the production and the music itself don't match the Pumpkins sound....

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The numbers on the items in red are dates. The 31st October, Splinternail's birthday.

I noticed that. Several of those got solved on the German side, I think.

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Translating the items in blue reveals KOK ONO TSU.

This clue was rejected by Melpomene in a previous year, according to other threads here. Sad But the number itself is important. 9starspills. 369. There are nines in a lot of places.

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And finally the items in green... don't matter and I haven't tackled them. Whatever the answer is shouldn't be of any consequence.

Why's that? Additionally, I am not sure why you think that the game has been completely solved before.... Could you please elaborate, as it it isn't immediately clear to me? Sorry if I'm being dense. Sad

As for finding Random, I am not certain the purpose of qu13e is to find him. If it is, then why would the website reappear...?

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supersekretsrsly
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[quote="no_moon"]
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And finally the items in green... don't matter and I haven't tackled them. Whatever the answer is shouldn't be of any consequence.

Why's that? Additionally, I am not sure why you think that the game has been completely solved before.... Could you please elaborate, as it it isn't immediately clear to me? Sorry if I'm being dense. Sad


It shouldn't matter because I think the clue lies in showing that the 3 items are connected - not what the text itself actually reveals. It would probably end up being a reference to qu13e, and nothing more.

If you observe, the only two puzzles that have been solved are in the blue category, this gives weak support to my hypothesis but it's not conclusive.

I think you're quite right about g10sha being phonetic. This coupled with other factors lead me to believe that there are several ways to solve qu13e (and by solve I mean melpomene gives you the a-ok).

It's possible there are stages beyond the first, but the first alone was never officially solved.

I don't think there's any end to qu13e in terms of a backstory or a logical conclusion, I think it's supposed to be postmodern.

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Anyway, with regards to the puzzle with capital letters.

I've tried a number of things, looked at it from a lot of angles, rearranged it in numerous ways - but nothing has worked. I don't believe that substitution is involved, but if it's transposition then I've failed to crack it.

And I've looked at wordplay, anagrams, letter frequency and so on. But alas...

I give up on this one.

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If there is something to crack, I don't think the puzzle above is it, anyway. Best guess I have at this stage is to stick to the coloured categories. I have 3-4 suspicions on what the final word is, of those I'd give a very narrow lead to it being something to do with trains, or train stations. Something train-esque anyway.

Next guess is to look at the picture of the bicycle - oh and the train station. I think the Japanese in both pictures is very important.

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I was alerted to the fact that this game seemingly resurrected and as such I have reinstated the forum. Have fun!
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Quote:

One more thing:
Does anyone think that because "g10sha" (jitensha) was Japanese, that these others might also be?

I never knew that, and that kind of blows my mind. As you know we found two of three secret keys, iriguchi (entrance) and jitensha (bicycle). After tons of incorrect guesses, Melpomene finally started telling us something along the lines of "Iriguchi is 1, Jitensha is 1, 1+2=3" This led a lot of people to the picture of the bicycle with the column that says "Iriguchi" on. But the pictured named g10sha is the same picture where Iriguchi is spelled out from the first letter of every other word.

This means there isn't just one picture where iriguchi and jitensha are connected, there are two! Jitensha is also the wording on the bottle of absinthe in the picture on the bottom left... I wonder if the three key words are all supposed to be together on these three pictures. So we can connect jitensha to three of the pictures now. We can connect Iriguchi to two of the pictures... I could picture maybe bottle (botoru), it's on two of the pictures... I wonder if it could be one.

I'm not sure if Random Martin still wants to play the "guess the three keywords game", but I guess I could try it and see what he says.

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The numbers on the items in red are dates. The 31st October, Splinternail's birthday.

Translating the items in blue reveals KOK ONO TSU. This is an anagram for the Japanese word for nine ここのつ. I think it's unlikely but possible this is the third answer melpomene sought.

And finally the items in green... don't matter and I haven't tackled them. Whatever the answer is shouldn't be of any consequence.


heheh, I actually played a small part in originally helping find the word kokonotsu. I remember because it's the only thing I have EVER found of this game. But yeah, kokonotsu was submitted, it's not one of the three. I did figure out what the green dates were, and foolishly I didn't post them for fear of trouting, so I will have to look them all up again to tell you, but 010108 was the official launch date of the current version of Qu13e, even though it was found and played with in October of 2007. Hence the reason I think something might happen on splinternails.com in October and November. It seems that Random likes to make things available and play along even a few months before something starts.

I get the number in green spell out AAH-ACK-AJE, seems pretty relevant to me Wink

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EDIT: Well if the purpose of qu13e is to find Random Martin I can say with confidence that's been achieved, the above is enough to go on. I also think that others have solved qu13e before.


Why do you say this? If this is true, then nobody's bragged about it, and I guarantee that there are at least some circles who would be impressed by that. It would mean that upon solving it they were sworn to secrecy, and then actually kept the secret... which would reaffirm my suspicion that Random is really just trying to find new recruits for his cult... <.<

no_moon wrote:

The singer sounds very Billy Corgan...


(skeptical) hmmm... maybe more like if Billy Corgan and Ric Ocasek had a love child.... Wink

speaking of vampires, I don't hear the voice in the section of the song you posted, SSS. Is it the "shhh, shhh, shhh"-y sound? or the really deep rumble underneath that? Either way, I can't make out anything.

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Official!

Yay! We're officially a game again!

Anyway, I emailed melpomeneSPLATqu13e.com, and I was told the message was undelivered... This seemed to happen last week as well, I wonder if Random is having server problems? Or if this is part of the game somehow...

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Got a couple of ideas on what it might be:

Something to do with time, most probably clocks. Perhaps something to do with 9 o clock.

Trains, maybe the time of trains ...

Highly unlikely:

hajiki - Pistol

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I considered no_moon's observation and sought to replicate it below:

agsixh.
aixgsh
agsixh

If the pattern follows, we should be looking at the item in bold.

IX is nine, the clue is phonetic. Nine = nai, as seen in Oboenai so probably annai, to start. In Japanese this means guidance, information or a notice.

This reminded me of a pseudonym I'd seen before. Anais Tumach:

He knows you're looking, but use your name...
A misstake, a mispell.
Anais Tumach.


Could be a crude anagram of tsumannai. Melpomene once implied the third answer might not be a word; this is slang, and means bored. But I'm not sure on that front, it's just a possible relationship that might hint towards the answer.

But that's err, not what I want to focus on. The problem is the second part, GSH. Haven't quite worked out what this could be jisha (acolyte or a company one works for)? I don't know. I don't speak Japanese. If it's part of the word annai- then it doesn't fit with anything particularly well.

I've sent an email to Calliope with "annai jisha" as the third word. I don't think it's correct but I'd like to know if it's the right line of enquiry.

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Quote:

Highly unlikely:
hajiki - Pistol

There is a pistol in the picture of the Absinthe bottle-- is this what you're referring to?

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I've sent an email to Calliope with "annai jisha" as the third word. I don't think it's correct but I'd like to know if it's the right line of enquiry.


"Annai" means "to guide." That doesn't sound off track. "jissha" can be a picture or a live-action film. "jisha" is one's own company, a guide/acolyte, one's car, etc....

Japanese must necessarily take a consonant. If "g" is being read as "ji" then the "sh" must have a consonant... if it took an "o" it would be "jisho" or dictionary. Are we sure it should be "sha"?

Besides that I keep looking at "ai" (love) as the first two letters, and that stands out to me.

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no_moon wrote:
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Highly unlikely:
hajiki - Pistol

There is a pistol in the picture of the Absinthe bottle-- is this what you're referring to?

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I've sent an email to Calliope with "annai jisha" as the third word. I don't think it's correct but I'd like to know if it's the right line of enquiry.


"Annai" means "to guide." That doesn't sound off track. "jissha" can be a picture or a live-action film. "jisha" is one's own company, a guide/acolyte, one's car, etc....

Japanese must necessarily take a consonant. If "g" is being read as "ji" then the "sh" must have a consonant... if it took an "o" it would be "jisho" or dictionary. Are we sure it should be "sha"?

Besides that I keep looking at "ai" (love) as the first two letters, and that stands out to me.


The word for pistol has been extracted from one possible interpretation of one of the sequences, but it's highly unlikely to be the answer.

The vowel for 'sh' is indeed undefined and this is what bothers be. The other explanation is to read it phonetically. Gi/ji Se Ha/ah.

'Ai' is definitely worth looking into, I saw that come up a few times whilst hammering the dictionary but I didn't look into it.

EDIT: I think I will try tetsudoueki next.

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To back your claim of it being pistol, On the last picture, where it says "I am the Key" on the bottom there is a shadow of a pistol as well. This was my basis for submitting "pistoru" once... but I think that was more of a Japanized version of an English word.... Embarassed

I say go for it... Although I haven't gotten any responses in emails for a while.

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no_moon
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punkbass wrote:
To back your claim of it being pistol, On the last picture, where it says "I am the Key" on the bottom there is a shadow of a pistol as well. This was my basis for submitting "pistoru" once... but I think that was more of a Japanized version of an English word....


A pistol is actually "pisutoru" as you said. That isn't incorrect. It's not an oops! I might have made a similar error.

There are other words for gun...
銃(じゅう)- Jyuu
鉄砲(てっぽう)-Teppo

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The picture is of a handgun, so maybe "kenjyuu"... Although that sounds weird to me and I've never heard it used (jyuu is much more common). There are a lot of numbers, and "jyuu" is also the number for 10. Since that is a major number in the game, I vote that the word is jyuu.


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Later I'm going to take a look at the image of the bicycle. It's the final image in the blue category and it contains both of the solutions we have (an actual bicycle, and the Japanese word for entrance).

The Japanese text on the white column says 'Caution', or perhaps warning.

If you rotate the image 90 degrees anti-clockwise there is an odd depiction of a stickman engaged in some activity in the bottom right. The bicycle frame is female but may well be unisex.

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