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punkbass
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 		Oh BTW
Sorry, my last post was rushed so I forgot to say this.

Rika! Welcome! As has already been said, you have come closer than anyone else in finding the third key. That makes you like Kevin Bacon to Splinternail's James Purefoy. Good to have you with us. I've enjoyed reading your findings on the previous thread.

Edit: Guess there are other things I can say that are game related, in spite of not finding much of anything with the time I have had tonight.

qeken wrote:

Me: what is the purpose of the song, Vampires. Is it important?
Can i have a clue about anything?
Qu13e: "A song by any other name would sound as sweet. Or sinister. But a song is
just a song. Music for the masked masses."


For some reason this reeks of a white lie, or a misdirection to me. While the purpose of the song, vampires, is to just be a song, it doesn't mean that there's not something hidden in it. An image is just an image, doesn't mean it's not stegged. Does that make sense? I may just be over analyzing...

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I believe this is not a game. There is no linear progression, but a system of tendrils that spreads across layers and years.


I'm pretty sure after solving the final puzzle it's going to say "Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"

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The question now is, if 1+2=3 what is the 3? There may be more anagrams and hints in that poem. I will take a look to see if I can find anything else of merit.


I hope that's the question now. I don't even know what I'm looking for anymore. The only thing that sticks out to me still in this poem is in line three the '(to)' at the end of the line. I don't see how it fits into any form of sentence, syllable count, rhyming scheme... I'm not sure what it's purpose is. The other one that sticks out is in line 15, the word "intwo". He could be referring to himself now existing as two people, Random Martin and Splinternails, and he's just playing with words here, or it could be another clue. The only other place where words are all joined together to make one word is the anagram "canspiritsee".

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 		Re: Oh BTW
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I hope that's the question now. I don't even know what I'm looking for anymore. The only thing that sticks out to me still in this poem is in line three the '(to)' at the end of the line. I don't see how it fits into any form of sentence, syllable count, rhyming scheme... I'm not sure what it's purpose is. The other one that sticks out is in line 15, the word "intwo". He could be referring to himself now existing as two people, Random Martin and Splinternails, and he's just playing with words here, or it could be another clue. The only other place where words are all joined together to make one word is the anagram "canspiritsee".


I think actually, that it is the TWOS that are important. Two is mentioned three times, in three different ways: (to), to, and intwo.

What if we are supposed to be looking at things in a particular order.
Top middle picture then mentions both "secrets" and "ghosts." It is the one with the guy with the goggles. That picture also features a "1" in the form of a footnote.

1+2=3 ...?

It isn't always one word that forms the clue-- as with "canister spies" it can be a word that's indicated to be in conjunction (in that case, with quotation marks).

Also, on the Canister Spies picture, in the lower lefthand corner, I see numbers that look like 4 and 18. Am I seeing that right?

Edit:
I've been working with the other words from the list that I made for "canspiritsee." Another way to read it is actually "spectre ansii" which could mean we should be looking for an encrypted ANSII text, no??

Most of the other combinations I came up with tonight were utterly useless or just seemed like anagrams of anagrams. But this one... this one seems meaningful. Not only does it mention ghosts, but it also refers to something hidden.

By the way you can also make the words "escape" and "sinister" with that phrase, but the remaining letters are just rubbish, so I think it may be significant....

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 		All the new content, aside from splinternails.com, has been done via livejournal and email yes? So it has been quite selective in dealing with a limited number of people? Does anyone who has had communication with splinternails and all know if there is value in rehashing old unsolved puzzles, aside from the pure enjoyment of course.

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RikaLeigh wrote:

All the new content, aside from splinternails.com, has been done via livejournal and email yes? So it has been quite selective in dealing with a limited number of people? Does anyone who has had communication with splinternails and all know if there is value in rehashing old unsolved puzzles, aside from the pure enjoyment of course.


This goes along the lines of what I was just getting on to ask you, so I guess I will ask you here rather than a PM.

It seems back in the day that you did a lot of research on Japanonymous which lead to you getting closer to finding the third key than anyone else. I wanted to ask you, do you think Japanonymous, Clockstop The Whys' chess account, the breadcrumbs Random Martin has left over the years, splinternails.com, splinterworld.com and everything else are required to solve qu13e? Or do you think they are supplemental?

That's my question, now in regards to yours and how mine relates.

Qu13e was never solved. There's new content up in various places, but if it was required to solve qu13e.com, why did it not come up the same time as qu13e? Looking at the source for QU13E, I have never seen it change since January 1st, 2008. Even though accounts, websites and other supplemental materials have disappeared.

My suspicion is that everything needed to solve qu13e is in qu13e. In fact, it seems that once we started trying to find the third key again that Splinternails notified some of us that someone had opened the door.

I believe all of us here are in agreement that the LJ correspondence with HR was a red herring. And the emails with Splinternails have been through the usually emails found in 2008, and have all continued to be concerning qu13e still.

So I guess the reason for rehashing old unsolved puzzles is because they are unsolved, and they are the puzzles. I think there's value in looking at the vampires song on splinterworld... or waiting to hear something from silentSPLATsplinterworld.com if you have tried emailing it. But I suspect they will lead us back to qu13e.

I feel like we have been trying to solve the puzzles to find the third key, rather than guessing wildly like we did before. One thing that has changed is I think we may have recently diverted our attentions for the image with the bicycle to the poem (g10sha) and the Canister Spies picture (h01gas). Melpomene always said "1+2=3" so we looked at the picture with the bike and the column that said Iriguchi, but we've recently realized that the image the poem is in is named g10sha (Jitensha) and has Iriguchi in it.

I guess I'm just recapping now... I just hope when I write it again that I will think of something else...

Edit:

I just saw you edit, no_moon:

no_moon wrote:

I've been working with the other words from the list that I made for "canspiritsee." Another way to read it is actually "spectre ansii" which could mean we should be looking for an encrypted ANSII text, no??


Unfortunately ANSI (without the extra I) is just an Institute that creates standards, like ASCII, which is probably what you are thinking of. You can make ASCII out of canister spies, but the remaining letters don't seem to be meaningful.

But this reminds me. In the description of Canister Spies, it says "tempation" rather than "temptation". And it's been that way for years. Do you think it's a mistake, or intentional? I've seen Random Martin make typos before, but they are rare, and surely after 8 years this would have been noticed...

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 		In a word no, I believe qu13e is stand alone and solvable as such.

I have been trying to dig up my old Japanonymous notes with no luck, but as I recall the single pointed clue on there was the one on the contact page (the telephone image with the s3cret), I posted about it on the old thread. Everything else was either photographic, digital, or written art or clues pointing back at qu13e (example plenty of "9" references and bicycles). It was truly a work of beauty.

I see splinternails' breadcrumbs as Kilroy was here, or alternatively attention gathering for qu13e. He wants to come out and play with us.

splinternails.com may have been all along our most important source of insight, it was splinternails before qu13e. But wayback only goes so far, and the ghosts aren't talking. I have had zero luck digging out any secrets on the current splinternails.com.

I have not spoken to anyone from livejournal but reading through here... none of it feels right. Doesn't feel like our old friend. That doesn't mean it isn't though.

Regarding iriguchi/jitensha, they each had several examples of themselves on qu13e. I haven't seen any new ideas... yet. On top of the ones you mentioned, the playing card in the picture with the gun is bicycle brand cards.

There is so much on qu13e I can see but cannot interpret. For example, in the here's where can't remembers hide pic there are dots above pairs of letters ha, ws, he, wa, hr, wa, ha. So... many... layers.

Edited to add-- has anyone ever put together a timeline that connects all the incarnations of splinternails/qu13e/Random across the different sites over the years?

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 		.php QUIXE
not sure if this has been found already, but i decided to look at the .php files inside qu13e.com in notepad, and i discovered that they have words inside them.
ana.php - h a p p e n s
gra.php - a f t e r i m a g e s o f
jpn.php - y o u
mdi.php - T h e
nyt.php - L I E S . . .
ook.php - m e
ott.php - a w a y
rmo.php - b o u n c i n g
sha.php - a l l

The 'L I E S . . .' reminded me of:
Quote:
"Beware numbers count onLies"

I always found the fact that Lies is capitalised a bit interesting. Perhaps it is informing of some significance within the image that nyt.php is placed on. which is the image of the note with the capitalised letters all through it.
http://www.qu13e.com/619/
"She said this is when everything changed."

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qeken wrote:

not sure if this has been found already, but i decided to look at the .php files inside qu13e.com in notepad, and i discovered that they have words inside them.


Huh? Wha? But how did you...

Everything I have found on Google suggests that you are not supposed to be able to download php files. 1. The ability to even be able to do so is a security risk as it is meant to be server side only code, and 2. Anytime I see someone ask how to do it the answer is always "You can't"

I would very much like to see those, and know how it's done.

RikaLeigh wrote:

For example, in the here's where can't remembers hide pic there are dots above pairs of letters ha, ws, he, wa, hr, wa, ha.


I've been looking at this one for a while. I think it might be an [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADFGVX_cipher"]ADFGVX cipher[/url]. The problem is, at it's simplest, we would need to know what order the letters "h", "a", "w", "s", "e", "r" need to be in. At it's most complex, we would need the order of a random alphabet and an additional transposition key.

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punkbass wrote:
qeken wrote:

not sure if this has been found already, but i decided to look at the .php files inside qu13e.com in notepad, and i discovered that they have words inside them.


Huh? Wha? But how did you...

Everything I have found on Google suggests that you are not supposed to be able to download php files. 1. The ability to even be able to do so is a security risk as it is meant to be server side only code, and 2. Anytime I see someone ask how to do it the answer is always "You can't"

I would very much like to see those, and know how it's done.


I saved the page to my computer soon after joining in this whole thing. When you save a page it downloads all the files so it can essentially be used offline. When i saved the page it downloaded the .php files along with it.
edit - If you have any trouble doing so then if there is some way i could give them to you i would be happy to.

I feel i have contributed something significant. yay.

Edit - also in regards to my work at reddit, i have decided that i'm not going to bother with posting anything there and will concentrate on here for now.

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 		ah... I was just about to respond to your post before you edited, but your updated version is nicer.

That said, my response was going to be "We need all kinds" Smile

*Tries not to look too embarrassed as he ends his post....*

Edit:

Darn! It's actually still downloading the images that the php files redirect you to. So when I save the file, I get a different ana.php and so on than you do. As proof, change the name from ana.php to ana.jpg, and you will see the image that was there when you saved the html file in the first place.

That said, there are hidden words in each of those thumbnails. The are all recorded on the [url="http://www.argwiki.de/index.php5?title=QU13E_-_Ungel%C3%B6ste_R%C3%A4tsel"]German Wiki[/url].

*sigh*... escalation... and then crash...

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 		Stuff
AKA it helps having no life.
okay guys stop me if i'm going too far.

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Darn! It's actually still downloading the images that the php files redirect you to. So when I save the file, I get a different ana.php and so on than you do. As proof, change the name from ana.php to ana.jpg, and you will see the image that was there when you saved the html file in the first place.

That said, there are hidden words in each of those thumbnails. The are all recorded on the [url="http://www.argwiki.de/index.php5?title=QU13E_-_Ungel%C3%B6ste_R%C3%A4tsel"]German Wiki[/url].

*sigh*... escalation... and then crash...


oh i think we are doing things differently. i have the .php files and i am opening them in notepad. I am fully aware of the fact that the images change, this was not the point of what i was looking at.
I opened all the PHP files in Notepad on my laptop and i noticed that near the start there are a few words, as i have stated.

edit - once again, probably already known but with the PHP files wasn't there an order to them? something like ana gra mdi sha rmo nyt ook jpn ott?
anagram disharmony took jpn ott??
Nevermind, this is on the German Wiki and has already been solved.
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The image name resulted without the extension "php": ana-gra-mdi-sha-rmo-nyt-ook-jpn-ott = "anagram disharmonytookjpnott"
=> "RANDOM GHOST MARTIN TOKYO JAPAN"


I had a thought of highlighting the page, because who knows, theres alwasy a chance of them being sneaky and hiding something like that, and i didn't find anything, but i did notice that the top right corner of the page refuses to be highlighted. I do not know if this means anything in particular, but i prefer not to leave anything out, at the risk of missing something.

edit - you saw nothing

Edit - time zones are frustrating, as i am guessing that most, if not all of you are not from Australia.

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 		[edited] yup I saw nothing Wink

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 		Many thanks!! While solving it is definitely important to keep our heads screwed firmly to our necks. Smile By the way, I think most of the players are asleep right now so probably no one but me saw that. My time zone is closer to yours I guess!

Also, probably all of us should be aware that whatever we post, the PM is watching us. Smile He knows we are discussing stuff here, and it may even affect how he contacts us.

That said, what you did with the php stuff was really awesome. I am going to take a look at the phrases now as I believe that one long one stuck together may be another anagram....

[edit]
qeken the TITLE.... the title of the post you made remained but needs changing too. XDDD

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 		Quick question. What or who triggered the current rebirth of activity?

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 		Rika, I'm not sure what triggered the website(s) getting put back up, but as for the re-opening of the trail and re-interest in qu13e, that would be my fault because I stumbled upon splinternails.com and from it qu13e and from there, unforums.

I don't feel comfortable posting the entire story publicly, though, so if you'd like to know the details, feel free to PM me!! Smile

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