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EverymanHYBRID 2015
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knifebladepresents
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I really need to catch up on this series


You betcha!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:21 pm
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baliset
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Okay, so there was discussion in the Angora Chat the other night about the Voyeur/Firebrand/Guardian labels as they apply to the three EMH protagonists, and I stumbled upon a HABIT quote from "Very Happy" that pretty much conclusively states who is who.

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"But see, you're a thinker. You watch, and you learn. You figure out puzzles and shit. Evan, he's just an animal, he just runs in, he doesn't care what the fuck's going on, he's an idiot. Vinnie, he's more of a leader. More of a visionary."


We already know Vin is the Guardian, since HABIT out and out calls him that in "Lexi". I think this quote strongly points to Evan as the Firebrand and Jeff (who HABIT is addressing) as the Voyeur, not the other way around like we were positing in Angora Chat.

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knifebladepresents
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We already know Vin is the Guardian, since HABIT out and out calls him that in "Lexi". I think this quote strongly points to Evan as the Firebrand and Jeff (who HABIT is addressing) as the Voyeur, not the other way around like we were positing in Angora Chat.


I'm on your side, and I don't agree with people who say HABIT is lying about his own prophecy (sorta self-defeating, if you think about it). But how does this fit in with the Everyman prophecy (speaking of Everyman, I'm going to have to read that soon...UGH!)

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SilentMedusa
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Do we know for sure they're still using the prophesy angle?

Can I touch on the tulpa business that was mentioned on the last page? This will be kind of scattered, but let's just call it vintage EMH speculation, 'kay? Wink

Now. I don't think HABIT or Slender Man are tulpas, but HABIT might be trying to create one. The basic idea behind the tulpa is that it exists because enough people believe it exists, right? HABIT seems to be trying to get us to think along a certain path; maybe he's trying to make something. Or make something happen. Like, he want's things to go a certain way, but that's only possible if we make it possible, by believing in the reality he's trying to create.

Or, I had a thought: we still don't really know what the relationship between HABIT and Slendy is. This could be HABIT's way of getting some leverage on him. Like, the Slender Man isn't a tulpa, but if enough people believe he is, he'll become a tulpa. I imagine that would give HABIT a huge advantage over him. Or maybe it's an even deeper meta-game: HABIT wants everyone to think he's a tulpa that'll dry up and blow away if we ignore him, so they (we) will focus on that, instead of looking into real counter-measures that might actually work.

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baliset
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Do we know for sure they're still using the prophesy angle?


Not for 100% certain, but some stuff about it was being bandied about in the chat. Mostly because Vin wants us to tell a "him" or a "them" to stop watching, and the two theories about that were that it refers to the Rabbits or to the Voyeur somehow.

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TheOperator
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Do we know for sure they're still using the prophesy angle?


Why else mention the guardian in a recent (by EMH standards) video?

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WeAreInsanity
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SilentMedusa wrote:
Now. I don't think HABIT or Slender Man are tulpas, but HABIT might be trying to create one. The basic idea behind the tulpa is that it exists because enough people believe it exists, right? HABIT seems to be trying to get us to think along a certain path; maybe he's trying to make something. Or make something happen. Like, he want's things to go a certain way, but that's only possible if we make it possible, by believing in the reality he's trying to create.


That would support Vinnie trying so hard to get everyone to stop watching. If that is what HABIT is up to, then maybe Vin is onto him and is trying a bit of sabotage.

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Oransel
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SilentMedusa wrote:
we still don't really know what the relationship between HABIT and Slendy is.


I've always thought it was this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilVersusOblivion

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NoMoreGaems
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God, I hate that new site design.

Man... I miss the days of heavy audience involvement, don't you?

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TheOperator
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NoMoreGaems wrote:
Man... I miss the days of heavy audience involvement, don't you?


It looks like they're bringing it back... hopefully. Although it also looked that way after the "March 21st" video.

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Master of Octopi
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So, if Vinnie wants us all to stop watching, why is he still uploading videos? Is he hoping to mislead us, or is it just out of...

Cool
...habit?

Lame jokes aside, what is the purpose of keeping the channel going if he's going to tell us to stop watching? If we are dealing with Tulpas, and the way to deal with them is getting us to stop watching, why doesn't Vinnie just stop uploading things for us to watch? Is he afraid HABIT will just take control of the channel and will upload things anyway? Or is something else going on?

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TheOperator
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Master of Octopi wrote:
Is he afraid HABIT will just take control of the channel and will upload things anyway?


I think you've nailed it. I've no doubt HABIT would take that course of action were Vinnie to not upload anything.

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A Slender Editor
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An observation on that "second set of ears.wav" file:

On a whim I opened it in a Hex Editor to see if there was any plaintext embedded in the static. There wasn't any I could find, but something odd caught my eye; the static was composed of nothing but repeating pairs of characters. (i.e. a pattern like "ABABCDCDEFEFGHGH...")

I checked a few other audio files and didn't see this same pattern occurring. Does someone with more knowledge of .WAV files have any idea why this repetition is present, or if it means anything?

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SilentMedusa
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I just had a thought, and it's pretty dark. It ties into several theories.

First, I have to tell you about a Wild Mass Guess about the Slender Man I read at TV Tropes: he exists as long as someone knows about him, and so kills everyone who knows about him so he can die in peace (or stop existing).

Now. Remember the Iteration Theory? And Vinny's revelation that they "aren't real"? What if Vinny's realized that he, Jeff, Evan, and Steph are trapped in a perpetual cycle along with HABIT and Slendy, doomed to live and die over and over again, forever. Because they're not real. Maybe it's HABIT's doing; bringing them back over and over to see how many different scenarios he can play out. And Slender Man keeps coming back and killing them over and over, not understanding why they won't just stay dead like everyone else... And it keeps happening, because someone (us this time, the doctors in the previous cycle, who knows before that) is observing, watching, making... the HYBRIDS are tulpas. Whether it's more HABIT shenanigans or an experiment by Slendy, or someone (or thing) we haven't seen yet, they continue to exist because we're making them. And Vinny realized the only way to stop the cycle was for the four of them to stop existing (as opposed to dying and respawning like they have been for god knows how long). And that can only happen if we all stop watching, stop thinking about them, etc. So he puts out that message. And HABIT runs interference, because his game would be ruined and he'd have to find new toys to play with. And if Evan really is his 'perfect host', I very much doubt HABIT would let him disappear into the ether...

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Shockwave
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Are there any good collections of all the videos somewhere? I kind of want to marathon the series

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