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Pictishwitch
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Re: So It WAS the Agency
great, is there anything not compromised?

RedHatty wrote:

The rest of the convo (it just kept going - Thanks Akadias for sharing your chat too - helped me know for sure)

Quote:

Callum Felderi: Thank you for your help though.
We will get in touch with Paul Bird.

Carol Red Hatty: We again?

Callum Felderi: I will, again, sorry - anxiety making mistypes.

Carol Red Hatty: not hardly, not a single typo today. Very unlike your keyboard

Callum Felderi: Yes. IT noted my typings at last.

Carol Red Hatty: Well that's one small step smile emoticon

Callum Felderi: The company is very busy trying to find Lucy so I am trying to find her first. Are you sure she hasn't contacted anyone?

Carol Red Hatty: Callum, I don't have the resources your Agency has, I cannot monitor other people's emails or online activity. I don't recall anyone saying they talked to Lucy recently. DO you?

Callum Felderi: No one has been talking to me at all - that is the concern I have.

Carol Red Hatty: Well, telling people they are of no use to you does not inspire people to share now does it?

Callum Felderi: Granted. I was off. I apologised to him.

Carol Red Hatty: And you let him know that it isn't Callum I'm talking to.

Callum Felderi: He now thinks I'm some sort of agent for the work company and even claims I'm offering and threatening him - I'm just worried about Lucy. You can understand that, being a fellow friend of Lucy, right?

Carol Red Hatty: Why yes, I do believe I am a friend of Lucy's and I wouldn't call her a bitch.
Thank You for helping me decide my allegiance.

Callum Felderi: [WIPING IN PROGRESS]

Well then.

Maybe we can use littledovecallum to mislead the Agency?

LittleDoveCallum is completely empty now. We could put stuff there saying that Paul knows the agency was behind the FB stuff, and change the time & date. However, they don't strike me as stupid, so they would still have someone there at MKC on the 31st anyway, so that's a total bust - unless they have the wrong MKC. Forgive me if my ignorance of the area is leading me astray but, from what I've been able to gather, there are two MKCs. Milton Keynes Central, the railway station, and Milton Keynes Centre, the shopping mall. In one of the shared FB communications, the agency mentioned the 'centre', so if they think that's where the meeting is, there would be no need to correct them. Wink

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 6:32 pm

RedHatty
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Thank you, I didn't know that they were 2 different places. I looked on a map though & they are only 3 blocks apart. Do you think that's a safe distance?

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Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 7:08 pm

Akadias
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Quote:

[removed duplicate of previously documented conversation ~RedHatty]
lol

'lol'? I think you misunderstand, you were worried about me, while I was talking to your frirends - kept you busy enough with crap-occult stuff about illusion and whatnot - stopped you warning more gullible idiots.

'no problem - glad I could help' - Kriss Sprules has been very helpful.

'Have a nice day'...
Some people are gullible. But I kept my word.
And I got no idea who that kid is.
You prey on the gullible, the weak, but yet you think you're bettering humanity.
I wonder if being hypocritical is designated within your code as unseeable.

Sorry - you weren't listening - all of that was just made up stuff to get you to listen, to answer. Still - we have our information now. If you want to continue this dialogue, leave a telephone number after the beep...
waiting for the beep

Beep.
xxx-xxx-xxxx [removed phone number for privacy's sake ~RedHatty]
Look me up if you wanna get more owned by the philosophical side.

Nassau, NYC?
More like queens.
Cute, right?
The knight is always by his queen.

I don't follow.

Oh, a pathetic chess reference.
Says the one who used check mate.
Bruhhh.

Pathetic in its true sense.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/pathetic
pathetic - definition of pathetic in English from the Oxford dictionary
Arousing pity, especially through vulnerability or sadness:. Meaning, pronunciation and example sentences, English to English reference content.
oxforddictionaries.com

Of course, Americans misusing English is understandable - hence my use of Kindergarten earlier to lower my tone to you.
So cute. What are you British?
Didn't get enough tea that we threw over to you?

'Queen' and country
Is that what this is all about.
?
Off with their heads, tallyho, yipyip!

Says the man still reading comic books...
Comics are part of the beauty of the world though.
They inspire, they help people grow, they help us see heroicism.

Fiction. This world is not a game.
But everything is an illusion.

There are no heroes.
So isn't it just that?
Fiction. A game.
And with all games, there are heroes like myself.
And villains, like yourself.
I call you a villain because no righteous person would refer to a woman, no matter what they had done, a bitch if they were truly bettering humanity.
Using derogatory and sexist terms show that you really don't care about bettering humanity. You're just trying to accomplish what you want and using that "bettering humanity" bit to be self-righteous.

Listen you comic-reading-book-nerd, the ideas of illusion and that nonsense was just lines. We don't care about bettering humanity.
Yeah, I figured.
So, why would anyone of us willingly help you?
Just because you're whiny and upset that some chick scolded you.
Waaaah, she hurt our pride. We need to kill her now. Waaaah.

Scolded us? Is that what Callum told you? We don't want to kill her? We want to stop her from killing others.
You say you used Kindergarten because I'm american. But now I'm just wondering if it's because you never grew out of it.

Usually these arguments are saved for ones we consider an asset, but I will try to explain in simple comic-style terms.

Batman works at night right? Uses fear and intimidation? But tries to make Gotham safe??
You know who else did that. Hitler.

Poison Ivy believes she is doing good, but doesn't consider the death toll, feeling more for plants and things without feelings than her fellow human kind.

But Hitler killed. We never have. Have you asked her about her child?
I already told you, I never spoke to her.

Well, before you judge us for using a few simple words and playing the villain, remember that not all comic-book characters are black-and-white.
I'm well aware of that. I never believed in a black and white morality.
I just know that for whatever reason, you're fucking with callum. And I just can't stand by and allow that.

Yet you compare us to Hitler in one simple ink stroke, lettering our caption boxes before seeing the back-story?
See, there's your line of thinking.
Hitler did better society, or at least germany, for a little bit.

Churchill had his SOE and his Ultra - we have a common goal.
What is your goal?
Besides capturing Lucy?
I got the whole, bettering humanity thing but that has been done so many times by tyrannical dictators.
But besides capturing Lucy, you've never quite told me what you're exactly after here.

Saving Lucy.

Saving Callum ultimately as well.
You don't want to save Lucy. You probably want to use her. Can you stop trying to pretend you care after calling her a bitch.

'bettering humanity' was never on the table - but we can definitely help it get on the right track,from some people's perpectives at least.

Since you're here, can I get your side of the story?

But we do not claim to know for ourselves. We have no 'agenda', no genocide planned nor ultimate race.
To at least help me catch up on things.
You want to catch Lucy because Lucy did some shit.
What did she do to you or whoever?

Seeing as I'm being paid to get info from you all, sure, why not.

Lucy didn't upset any of us. She just left. However, in doing so she left us vulnerable.

And, due to that, has left quite a few people in the line of danger.
What about her child?
or whatever you brought up, earlier.

Callum called her a bitch first. Or are you choosing to neglect that?
Callum's never called her a bitch in my presence. Nor did he suggest trying to better humanity. Bluhbluhbluh.
But you're trying to ignore what I asked.
What about the child?

Apologies for the delay.
bitch1 evidence.docx

His keyboard. His keystrokes. ergo his words. And yes. His child. Which he didn't know about.
>his keyboard
Do you have any proof?
On that website someone can post anything. That isn't evidence.

Of it being his child or his words?

Has he never been upset about her?
His words.
Not to me, so I can't use this as evidence.

You get so focused upon little words of description, you neglect to see the fact that we ARE trying to help him, and her. Yes, I called her a bitch in this conversation. But only to get an emotional response from you. And it worked. We're now having a dialogue, are we not?
Especially not from that website.

It required playing you a little to get you to involve yourself more and eventually listen to the truth - that she is not necessarily all fairies and fluff that she makes out to be.
I was going to be more involved eventually.
I just had to over come chemicals in the brain, I.E- really bad depression.
But I've always been watching. And what I did know is that you guys really, really, alerted me and made me feel off.
I'm a bit new agey and I've been told I'm an empath. And so, more often than not, I trust my gut feelings.
And they seem, that in this matter, they've been right.

Patrick, you claim to be able to read others and yet you also claim to have depression. How can you be certain that your brain chemicals are correct? I am not discussing dualism, Descartianism or 'Matrix' interpretations of the world - just a simple challenge to your won views and feelings of what is 'off'?

own*
Well, first off, these feelings of offness weren't any way in an emotional kind of state.
It was more, how can I put it, an alertness.
You know how you get when you're on the field and you feel something or someone isn't how they're supposed to be acting.
It was that instinct, right as you said hello.
The rest just got more confirmed as time went on. So, my gut instincts. My intuition were confirmed by the way you talked to me etc.

So - your depression isn't chemical then but emotional?
It's both.

So your input regarding emotional responses can be trusted?

Or is there doubt, which you rely upon reason to build upon - as you say - "The rest just got more confirmed as time went on"

My teacher has been getting me to trust myself more. Yes.
With that in mind, am 'I' a bad person?
i called Lucy a bitch to you.
So did Callum.
I want to save Lucy.
So does Callum.

You are certainly annoying, you certainly know how to get under my skin. However, from the rest of this, I still believe you are trying to manipulate me.

Callum feels that his friends will help them run away and be safe together, away from 'us'.

part of me wants to believe in you and say, this guy isn't so bad.
But I am also sure that you're in an agency. An agency that requires the perfection of manipulation.
And you think, if you approach me on beneficial terms, you might get me to go this guy isn't so bad and then manipulate me and my crew into the same lines of thinking.

It is up to you. But ultimately, if there is even the slightest doubt in your mind about Lucy and what she is capable of, then you should let us help her.

Not your 'crew'. They already are 'eating up' Lcuy's saccharin words about how the 'universe' is all light and child-like while we, people who have suffered, know its not. Know that it isn't an illusion, or, if it is, that it sucks. Your depression, Callum's loss of a child - these all things which sting and hurt at us.

Yeah, but that's the thing. Isn't it?
What is humanity without hurt, without pain?
Pain, it helps makes us grow. It teaches us. Inspires us.
It warns us too. Pain is needed.

Granted, we can learn and develop - who do you think gave Lucy her copy of The Prophet by Gibran? Its preliminary material for our training.
Lucy wants to remove people's pain, to blind them with her 'truth'.
To give children who are experiencing their first breaks and pangs of pain the tools to remove all pain from the world.

It's a silly dream, sure. But is she not allowed to dream?
Are others not allowed to dream?

I have to go. Callum will return shortly. No doubt he will be warned about our interceptions and contact, but he suspects us already of monitoring him. You, however, are alone in this conversation. Up to you. You can help us, or her.
A dream? One that, if acted upon, may become VERY destructive.

Or very fruitious. .
I can't say for sure. I've not talken to Lucy myself, yet.
So I will withold any kind of thoughts except for the fact that I will help Callum.
Until I have talked to Lucy, myself. Not because I agree with you. Not because I like you. Because you kinda irritate me.
But because, the knight of wands seeks truth and justice. A proper knight would educate himself by both sides.
But I definitely look forward to meeting you again. If not just to continue our difference in philosophies.

Akin to your fiction books, I respect that. But remember that knights have to ultimately dedicate themselves for either a cause or selfish gain. Hopefully your cause will be for the continuation of the human race as it is, and not as joyful, empty creatures without pain.

Only the future can tell.

The deck is being shuffled as we speak...

Until then, the wheel of fortune spins.

Edited for content & privacy by RedHatty

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 7:26 pm

Pictishwitch
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Location: In my head

Milton Keynes meeting
Alternative people

It would seem that the agency knows that both Kandiman and Dagada are involved with us so, even though they haven't managed to ferret out the meeting time and place, the people are compromised. However, I just learned that my daughter has an online friend in Milton Keynes. Would y'all like me to make inquiries?

Edited to add: Akadias, no matter what I do, I can't magnify your image enough to read it before it becomes nothing but pixels. Would you be willing to transcribe what's relevant? Smile

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 8:39 pm

Kandiman
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Location: Oxford, England

Re: Milton Keynes meeting
Alternative people

Pictishwitch wrote:

They may know the meeting time and place. Callum caught me at an awful time and I engaged fingers before brain :-/ I also live about half an hour from Milton Keynes, but there's a decent chance I'm working that day.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:30 pm

Akadias
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Joined: 09 May 2015
Posts: 8

The text is just answers from when you guys replied to what crimes you would perform. This way he could provide proof that Callum has referred to Lucy as a bitch. The facebook was pretty much just to show me who sold out Callum. To get at my goat.

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:34 pm

Pictishwitch
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Re: Milton Keynes meeting
Alternative people

Kandiman wrote:

Pictishwitch wrote:

Kandiman, would you be willing to comb through your correspondence with Callum, to see if you did inadvertently give away the time and place, since we haven't been able to see it? Smile

I'm going to go ahead and ask my daughter if her friend would be willing to help us out.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 12:19 am

Dagada
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Location: London, UK

Do we have any lines of communication with Callum that we know the agency are unable to monitor? It might be worth warning him about the time and location and seeing if he's able to relocate.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 4:35 am

Shad0
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Posts: 2180
Location: Southern California, USA

Re: Callum Felderi
Joan of Arc

Another email from Lucinda, with the subject "Joan of Arc":

Lucy Lime wrote:

As she falls, a dove may too
Eyes wanted by many a few
Help a Bird help one in hand
Be there for them in your land.

Use a spiders creation well
I cannot guide you so I will tell
Both light and dark will come into play
Upon this fateful, decisive day.

Work out ways to be as one
But recall your rising of the sun
Dawn is for others at different times...
Thus I close with these last two rhymes:

Who will help him fly the nest?
If not with us, then with the rest....

So it looks as if Paul Bird should go ahead with the planned meeting, but as many as possible of the rest of us should be available for online assistance ("spider's creation" = the Web) at that time, in our respective time zones. Something important might happen there; maybe the Agency will show up as well? Although it's not as if they don't know how to find Callum...

Hey, wasn't there someone else -- Tom Bailey on Facebook -- who was also in the UK? Anywhere nearby?

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Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 11:36 am

Akadias
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As of 18 minutes ago, or so. They removed Callum's facebook profile. With someone named Draco giving permission or not to workers to use it.

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 4:18 pm

Pictishwitch
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Akadias wrote:

As of 18 minutes ago, or so. They removed Callum's facebook profile. With someone named Draco giving permission or not to workers to use it.

Callum has also warned us about that on LittleDoveFelderi. The missing letters in his message spell out GSLTFNI, but I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

Meanwhile, Lucy has this number string on her page: 171615141312111009080706050403020100

Putting them through a hex translator, does this:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0

Other than a difference of 6, I got nothin'.

Edited to add: I'm a dork. Lucy's thing is just a countdown. Some days, there's just not enough caffeine...

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:56 pm

pia ward
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Akadias wrote:

As of 18 minutes ago, or so. They removed Callum's facebook profile. With someone named Draco giving permission or not to workers to use it.

And Draco is

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

a constellation! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_%28constellation%29

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 10:48 pm

Billy Brown
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Re: Callum Felderi
Joan of Arc

Shad0 wrote:

Hey, wasn't there someone else -- Tom Bailey on Facebook -- who was also in the UK? Anywhere nearby?

Unfortunately not otherwise I'd be there like a shot. I'm about six hours away by car so it's not really feasible unfortunately.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:50 am

Pictishwitch
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Need to organize
LittleDoveCallum vs. LittleDoveFelderi & communication coordination

There is a message on LittleDoveCallum now, asking to confirm the meeting at MKC at 4 on Saturday the 30th. It is supposedly from Callum, but I don't believe that for a minute, since that's the other account we know the agency was monitoring. Is it one of you folks, trying to throw the agency off?

Meanwhile, ShadO has written a coded message on LittleDoveFelderi, again asking Callum how to free him from the agency.

I think we need to organize ourselves a little bit here, so that we don't accidentally reveal the wrong things to the wrong people - again. To that end, I'd like to clear up the following:

1. Is Paul going to meet Callum at Milton Keynes Central Station, or at Milton Keynes Centre Mall? Once we've made that decision, then we can mislead whoever is pretending to be Callum on LittleDoveCallum.

2. Which of us are Lucy's 'members'? Pia and I are, but there's one other.

3. What are all of our timezones? I'm in PDT which, if GB is British Summer Time, means that 4 p.m. in Milton Keynes is 8 a.m. for me.

Edited to add: Another MKC is Milton Keynes College.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 2:54 pm
Last edited by Pictishwitch on Fri May 15, 2015 3:42 pm; edited 1 time in total

pia ward
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Re: Need to organize
LittleDoveCallum vs. LittleDoveFelderi & communication coordination

Pictishwitch wrote:

3. What are all of our timezones? I'm in PDT which, if GB is British Summer Time, means that 4 p.m. in Milton Keynes is 8 a.m. for me.

I'm in Eastern time zone so it will be 11 a.m for me.

Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:40 pm

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