Return to Unfiction unforum
 a.r.g.b.b 
FAQ FAQ   Search Search 
 
Welcome!
New users, PLEASE read these forum guidelines. New posters, SEARCH before posting and read these rules before posting your killer new campaign. New players may also wish to peruse the ARG Player Tutorial.

All users must abide by the Terms of Service.
Website Restoration Project
This archiving project is a collaboration between Unfiction and Sean Stacey (SpaceBass), Brian Enigma (BrianEnigma), and Laura E. Hall (lehall) with
the Center for Immersive Arts.
Announcements
This is a static snapshot of the
Unfiction forums, as of
July 23, 2017.
This site is intended as an archive to chronicle the history of Alternate Reality Games.
  

The time now is Tue Nov 26, 2024 2:43 am
All times are UTC - 4 (DST in action)		 View posts in this forum since last visit
View unanswered posts in this forum
Calendar
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » 10Cloverfield Lane
[LOCKED] 10 Cloverfield Lane
View previous topicView next topic
Page 30 of 142 [2121 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, ..., 140, 141, 142  Next
Author Message
Pixiestix
Resident Angry Midget


Joined: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 2465
Location: Tomorrow's Talk Studios

 		Re: To ARG or not to ARG?
That be the question.
Distraction wrote:
I am now permanently scarred by this mental picture..

I do what I can! Wink
Clovie4796 wrote:
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3377094/the-real-10-cloverfield-lane-mystery/

I wanna clear something up right now... Brad doesn't know squat any more than anyone else does. More often than not over the last 5 years B-D went from being a reputable great horror news site (the I LOVED) to being a "regurgitate everything we hear without any real investigation" site. They write articles on rumor as fact, sometimes having different "reporters" writing about conflicting rumors - again, each one not written as rumor but as fact. They often take other website's exclusive videos or images and put their own watermark on it (sometimes not even doing a good job of obscuring the original water mark). They have been called out frequently to appear to be paid for certain promotional articles (they always deny, but it is obvious when it happens). The bias has come thru heavily (for instance, if Kevin Smith is ever attached to a project, no matter what it is, it must be shit - even sometimes going so far as to give a bad review to a project that hasn't even started). And using Reddit as a basis for information for an article gets us no further than us using Reddit ourselves.... So just take whatever is written on that website with a huge grain of salt.
_________________
I don't believe in Chaotic Fiction, I only believe in ARG.
Remember kiddles, bad PMs get the wrath of the Vulva Puppets
PROUDLY owned by Gizmo, the wonder ARG pug!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:56 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
booba
Unfictologist


Joined: 09 Mar 2007
Posts: 1433
Quote:
So what you are saying is.... It's actually a film about how John Goodman is aging, and his dead penis?

Well, uh, now that you put it that way I guess I was.
Thanks for making me chuckle Pixiestix and Distraction!

Wait breaking news! Goodman has a "special effects double"!
So now we have a stand-in, aging, prosthetic, DP.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:02 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
AntaresMHD
Veteran


Joined: 01 May 2008
Posts: 145

 		Re: To ARG or not to ARG?
That be the question.
Pixiestix wrote:
Distraction wrote:
I am now permanently scarred by this mental picture..

I do what I can! Wink
Clovie4796 wrote:
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3377094/the-real-10-cloverfield-lane-mystery/

I wanna clear something up right now... Brad doesn't know squat any more than anyone else does.

Didn't want to be the one to again talk down on the stuff referenced by that Reddit thread, but yeah... As soon as I saw that link there, I closed the tab. None of the sources references are independent research, and it's all based on speculation that clearly only references The Cellar and none of the actual production details that came after all the rewrites and the already known facts about the shooting that took place during 2014.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:18 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
The Game Breaker
Veteran


Joined: 15 Jan 2016
Posts: 102

 		There has got to be something here....I can't think of one Bad Robot film that didn't have an ARG attached to it. Bang Head

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:42 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
CynAnne
Decorated


Joined: 30 Aug 2007
Posts: 241
Location: My Own Lil' Shangra-La, Planet Earth

 		Re: To ARG or not to ARG?
That be the question.
Pixiestix wrote:

I wanna clear something up right now... Brad doesn't know squat any more than anyone else does. More often than not over the last 5 years B-D went from being a reputable great horror news site (the I LOVED) to being a "regurgitate everything we hear without any real investigation" site. They write articles on rumor as fact, sometimes having different "reporters" writing about conflicting rumors - again, each one not written as rumor but as fact. They often take other website's exclusive videos or images and put their own watermark on it (sometimes not even doing a good job of obscuring the original water mark). They have been called out frequently to appear to be paid for certain promotional articles (they always deny, but it is obvious when it happens). The bias has come thru heavily (for instance, if Kevin Smith is ever attached to a project, no matter what it is, it must be shit - even sometimes going so far as to give a bad review to a project that hasn't even started). And using Reddit as a basis for information for an article gets us no further than us using Reddit ourselves.... So just take whatever is written on that website with a huge grain of salt.


If I'm not mistaken, didn't the "Dread Central" crew call "BD" out for those very same things you mentioned a while back? I'm totally with you on the thought that if someone tries to pass off anothers work as their own (and especially if they don't give credit to those other sources used), they should certainly get 'called on the carpet' for it.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:20 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
kosmopol
I Never Tire of My Own Voice


Joined: 27 Aug 2007
Posts: 3167
The Game Breaker wrote:
There has got to be something here....I can't think of one Bad Robot film that didn't have an ARG attached to it. Bang Head


Good point. Let's resume the transmedial projects and ARGs accompanied the Bad Robot Productions. Feel free to complete the list, since there were years I haven't followed anything.

Series:

  • 2001–06 Alias
    Never followed it in real time, but there were some ingame websites with information about mysterious Renaissance scientist Lombardi etc.
  • 2004–10 Lost
    A LOT of ARGs and minigames between seasons, including famous "LOST Experience" and infamous "Dharma recruiting"
  • 2005 The Catch Pilot
    ???
  • 2006–07 What About Brian
    ???
  • 2006–07 Six Degrees
    ???
  • 2008–13 Fringe
    Initially there were a trail with some interactive websites, including Massive Dynamic: http://www.massivedynamic.com/ , but not really a story behind it, just clues.
  • 2009 Anatomy of Hope Pilot
    ???
  • 2010 Undercovers
    ???
  • 2011–present Person of Interest
    There was one, wasn't it?
  • 2012 Alcatraz
    Some cool swags, transmedial websites, but nothing intense.
  • 2012 Shelter Pilot[7]
    ???
  • 2012–14 Revolution
    ???
  • 2013–14 Almost Human
    ???
  • 2014 Believe
    ???
  • 2015 Dead People Pilot[8]
    ???
  • 2016 Roadies
    hopefully something in future
  • 2016 Westworld
    hopefully something in future... Wasn't this series already canceled or so?
  • 2016 11.22.63
    My major hope. I mean, a series about JFK assassination SHOULD come along with an ARG


Movies


  • 2001 Joy Ride
    ???
  • 2006 Mission: Impossible III
    ??? - I think there were some websites, nothing revolutionary though
  • 2008 Cloverfield
    YES YES YES. I suppose, this one doesn't need a comment. Because it rocked ultimately.
  • 2009 Star Trek
    This ARG was also very very intense and amazing. Other than Cloverfield, this game had an end with multiplayer showdown. Perhaps the best ARG by Bad Robot so far (even if I still love Cloverfield ARG at its most)
  • 2010 Morning Glory
    ???
  • 2011 Super 8
    Nice, confusing, weird ARG, which actually collapsed, had no proper finale. But the atmosphere and this cool interactive virtual console was very interesting.
  • Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol ???
  • 2013 Star Trek Into Darkness
    No ARG as far as I know
  • 2015 Infinitely Polar Bear
    ???
  • Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation
    ???
  • Star Wars: The Force Awakens
    No ARG, but seriously, this one doesn't need any Very Happy
    ...
    Or perhaps it does...
    Upcoming
  • 2016 Star Trek Beyond
    I hope, I hope.
  • 10 Cloverfield Lane
    We will see.


So, even if not every production was assorted with an ARG, but Bad Robot ARGs had always quality, even if often they collapsed and annoyed many people. I loved and love their ARGs and virals, because they are special. They have soul, sense and unique atmosphere. Especially: Bad Robot trust in us people. They doesn't open all their cards. They know, we will find the key one day, so they let us do it. And I respect their respect of our vivid openness.
_________________
kosmopol Merzmensch: http://merzmensch.blogspot.com
Speaks German/Russian/Japanese
Leonard Nimoy calls me by nickname: http://tinyurl.com/gvuvydr

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:31 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
catherwood
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee

Joined: 25 Sep 2002
Posts: 4109
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
kosmopol wrote:

* 2012 - Alcatraz
Some cool swags, transmedial websites, but nothing intense.

I played the game, got the T-shirt, and went on the scavenger hunt. It really wasn't as much of an ARG as it was a transmedia experience. The puzzles were a lot of fun and well-made, both online and the event on Alcatraz island. It was, however, more driven by Ford (no pun intended) and FOX television for the sake of marketing the show (and the vehicles). It did not feel like Bad Robot wanted to immerse us in the show's story, although the game experience did use some of the character references.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:39 pm
Last edited by catherwood on Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:43 pm; edited 2 times in total
 View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
 Back to top 
VirtuallyQuinn
Veteran

Joined: 15 Jan 2016
Posts: 81
Falco wrote:
http://www.paramountmovies.com/legal/termsofuse.php?bgcolor=000000&linkcolor=eef2d6&fontcolor=847960

what are these the terms of use of? this is from the main website itself


Well, it would be enough to prevent Swamp Pop company from trying to hijack a Bad Robot marketing campaign...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:42 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
VirtuallyQuinn
Veteran

Joined: 15 Jan 2016
Posts: 81

 		Re: S.earch
The Game Breaker wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsz4vJuvfE0 so this vid is a couple years old but it's on Bad Robots Youtube page. We may be on the right track with the unf.orseen "typo" thing. Check it out and give me you guys' thoughts.


Oh my god....yeah, I agree...having seen that, I can't imagine SP just pulled that out of their ass and got lucky...they were directly working with Bad Robot to come up with that.

I have to share this on Reddit - not sure what you're going by there so will refer people to this page. Please jump in and let me know!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:45 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
catherwood
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee

Joined: 25 Sep 2002
Posts: 4109
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
Falco wrote:
what are these the terms of use of? this is from the main website itself


http://www.paramountmovies.com/legal/termsofuse.php?bgcolor=000000&linkcolor=eef2d6&fontcolor=847960

http://www.paramountmovies.com/legal/termsofuse.php (same as above without the style sheet)

http://www.paramountmovies.com/tou.html

Comparing these two three versions of the Terms page, it's all standard stuff. (The 3rd link is off the home page of the domain, not the movie's landing page, and has a slightly different copyright date.) Rather than text specific to each film or portion of the site, they slap all possible disclaimers onto all properties. So it doesn't mean there will be a "user forum" for each movie, just that the Paramount lawyers want to be safe.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:49 pm
 View user's profile AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
 Back to top 
VirtuallyQuinn
Veteran

Joined: 15 Jan 2016
Posts: 81
AntaresMHD wrote:
That was for S though, not sure these things can be mixed together since that team is not affiliated with the apparent team linked to this project.

For what it's worth I checked the wiki article for 10 Cloverfield Lane earlier today and noticed it was filled with plenty of production info that wasn't there days ago, and now it's pretty clear to me they actually made a proper sequel out of a barebones script they bought back in 2012, "The Cellar". It seems the speculation going on Reddit + all that stuff about "secret screenings" and such are most likely BS seeing as the project was clearly being worked on as a Cloverfield thing before it finished filming, and then there was an almost year gap for post-production in which they most likely filled all the other details... Or perhaps they waited on purpose as to avoid any clash with Star Wars, I don't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Cloverfield_Lane#Production
Quote:
In 2012, Paramount Pictures bought the script and commenced further development under Bad Robot Productions. Bad Robot was developing it for Insurge Pictures, Paramount's specialty label for films with a micro-budget. Due to Bad Robot's involvement, the film was assigned the codename Valencia to keep exact details of the production a secret.[5]


This of course makes me glad of following its development since it means it wasn't just some discarded indie film that got "Cloverfield" slapped onto it, but it was brought from the beginning with that intention, and if you keep reading the article, in the Filming section you can see some stuff that show that this won't take probably more than HALF the movie inside the bunker we've seen. I figured they wouldn't be as obvious as to make such a cliche premise (man is the real monster etc) or some dull twist like "the crazy dude was right all along woo spooky" etc.



I think the connection here with S.earch goes to the responses from Swamp Pop and on their site using the same sort of format...not that it's connected to S.

Swamp Pop delivered responses to those who used their Special Request prompt and there was questioning over the .Long (term shelter supply) and the Unf.whatever that was. It's a Bad Robot thing. That helps settle it that Swamp Pop and bad Robot have a deeper connection than just product placement. SP isn't trolling Cloverfans, they are in game and providing clues. THAT is the connection to S.earch

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:54 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
kosmopol
I Never Tire of My Own Voice


Joined: 27 Aug 2007
Posts: 3167

 		Re: S.earch
catherwood wrote:
kosmopol wrote:

* 2012 - Alcatraz

I played the game, got the T-shirt, and went on the scavenger hunt.


Awesome, thank you! I'll update the list. And yes, Ford was onmipresent, lol.


VirtuallyQuinn wrote:
The Game Breaker wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsz4vJuvfE0 so this vid is a couple years old but it's on Bad Robots Youtube page. We may be on the right track with the unf.orseen "typo" thing. Check it out and give me you guys' thoughts.


Oh my god....yeah, I agree...having seen that, I can't imagine SP just pulled that out of their ass and got lucky...they were directly working with Bad Robot to come up with that.

I have to share this on Reddit - not sure what you're going by there so will refer people to this page. Please jump in and let me know!


People, this has nothing to do with 10CloverfieldLn. The way of writing "S.earch" is rather a word play: search for "S", an ominious Writer "Straka" and also protagonist of his book, whos name was "S." The letter "S" is very important in that book, so they write it in the video title with emphasis.
_________________
kosmopol Merzmensch: http://merzmensch.blogspot.com
Speaks German/Russian/Japanese
Leonard Nimoy calls me by nickname: http://tinyurl.com/gvuvydr

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:57 pm
 View user's profile Visit poster's website
 Back to top 
danteIL
Unfictologist


Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 1990

 		There is a whole thread here on Unforums discussing the book "S." which was indeed another JJ Abrams project. While it wasn't really an ARG, this also had clues and twitter stuff associated with it.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38384&search_id=1929703576


While I cannot explain "unf.orseen" (except as a typo) I think the ".Long" has been pretty well explained as a way to make sure that the shelter supply easter egg shows up first in the Swamp Pop product list. Exactly the kind of thing you would if you were just throwing something up on the webpage for funsies.

Sometimes a dot is just a dot.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:10 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Ecks51
Unfettered


Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Posts: 644
Location: The Snow-covered Meadows

 		 
This will add nothing, and for that I apologize, but I'm very happy to see this here.
30 pages already. I have a lot to read later.
_________________
Look out for Red Herring when you go fishing for clues.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:19 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
AntaresMHD
Veteran


Joined: 01 May 2008
Posts: 145
VirtuallyQuinn wrote:
I think the connection here with S.earch goes to the responses from Swamp Pop and on their site using the same sort of format...not that it's connected to S.

It was posited a few pages ago that the . in ".Long-Term Supply" was put there because Shopify sorts their items alphabetically, and they wanted people to see that one first. On its own, it doesn't seem to serve another purpose that we know of yet.
And yeah there was that one "unfor.seen" typo, but they sent some emails like that and also others without the typo, so it might not be a reliable clue either.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:00 pm
 View user's profile
 Back to top 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 30 of 142 [2121 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, ..., 140, 141, 142  Next
View previous topicView next topic
 Forum index » Chaotic Fiction » 10Cloverfield Lane
Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum



Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group