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kira1000
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[trailhead?]the Ogdoad Order Hi, I received an e-mail today from "The Ogdoad Order" titled "the Ogdoad is broken". Here is what it said:
The power of two [cubed].
We are magic.
We are base.
We are infinite.
We are polytheistic.
We are musical.
We are gods.
We are Christians.
We are Muslims.
We are Jews.
We are Buddhists.
We are Hindus.
We are distinctive.
We are glyph.
What do you think of the image? I can't figure anything out myself.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:44 am
themightymooker
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Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Posts: 109 Location: Not Quite Lincoln, NE
Well, I have two observations:
1) A swift Google of "Ogdoad" has a lot of interesting information. Looks like we're dealing with religious mysticism and numerology here. That's pretty cool!
2) Well, I got something intelligible, but there's probably more to it. I'll spoiler it anyway.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
By converting all of the numbers into letters using basic substitution (with the written in 'H' and 'O' being left alone), I was able to generate the word "cronhology," which is an anagram of "chronology."
Hope this helps in some way!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:08 am
KLind
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 928 Location: Columbus, Ohio
Oh good! I was debating making a thread about this.
I sent them a reply last night asking about the importance of 'Chronology', and where to look next, but haven't heard anything back yet.
Glad people here got it too.
I'm wondering if there's any significance to the empty boxes, or the out of order letters. Possibly connected to the first line of the email "The power of two [cubed]"? That line feels like there's something more to it than the rest.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:44 am
themightymooker
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To be clear, I didn't get the email; I just worked with what kira1000 sent to us. But, I did try to work on cubing the numbers (as well as squaring them) and then finding a way to cipher them, but they came up completely indecipherable.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:52 am
LatentMoths
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Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 523 Location: Texas
Here's a link to some info I found on Ogdoad.
http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/ogdoad.html
The power of two [cubed] may refer to the 8 god system. There's even a section on Chronology.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:26 am
KLind
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Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 928 Location: Columbus, Ohio
They just replied to the email I sent them last night.
My reply to the initial email:
Quote:
Thanks for reaching out. I understand the sensitive nature of this, and appreciate the trust you're placing in me.
I'm curious as to the importance of the word 'chronology', and where I should look next?
I'm looking forward to our continued correspondence.
-K
Their reply:
Quote:
Subject Line: sand box
text:
We are grateful.
We are light-like.
We are time-like.
We are space-like.
Chronology is important.
Chronology is everything.
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:35 am
Atropanocturna
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Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 240
Got it too! Looks interesting.
In addition to the egyptian association, there is also a gnostic aspect to the term ogdoad. I have studied gnosticism a little bit, but never touched on this concept in depth. I am looking into it further as I have time (at work)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogdoad_ (Gnosticism)
The only addition I have to the work everyone has done regarding the substitution cypher grid is the possibility that it could be something like CRON_ _ _ _ THEOLOGY. Though I am unaware of any specific theology beginning with CRON off the top of my head. Maybe there is something in the numbers that could fill in the blanks.
C R O N
_ _ _ _
_ H _ O
L O G Y
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:49 pm
Melchizedek
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Joined: 16 Jun 2013 Posts: 20 Location: Boston
Hey everyone, I didn't get the email either, but this looks really interesting! It looks (to the naked eye) that the "h" and the "o" in the grid are other images that just sort of look like an "h" and an "o." Can we make anything of that?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:54 pm
KLind
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Melchizedek wrote:
Hey everyone, I didn't get the email either, but this looks really interesting! It looks (to the naked eye) that the "h" and the "o" in the grid are other images that just sort of look like an "h" and an "o." Can we make anything of that?
Looks more like scratchy handwriting to me. Could be either though!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:37 pm
Atropanocturna
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In the chronology of gnosticism there is exists first, the one (depth). Through the the creative thought of depth another emanation is formed called silence or the barbalo or sometimes "Forethrought". Depth and Silence give birth to Mind and Truth (Nous and Aletheia), who give birth to Word and Life (Logos and Zoe), who give birth to Man and Church (Anthropos and Ecclesia). These pairs of aeons make up the complete of Godhead (Pleroma), and the first eight Aeons that have been expounded here are the Valentinian Ogdoad.
The picture of the spiral also calls to mind the idea of the ogdoad as the spheres of the heavens.
Just some random thoughts Ive had throughout the day.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:53 pm
hinoai
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I got this email too, and just chiming in that I'm going to be with you guys solving this!
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:36 pm
themightymooker
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I don't really see a puzzle in that response email. I did some research on the phrases "light-like," "space-like," and "time-like." They all imply that we're dealing with some high-level science, particularly that of quantum spacetime and general relativity. Pretty cool stuff, albeit a bit over my head.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:48 pm
reesylou
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Re: [trailhead?]the Ogdoad Order
kira1000 wrote:
What do you think of the image? I can't figure anything out myself.
The image seems to be based off a wall stencil: https://www.2berrycreative.com/collections/stencils/products/square-sensation-stencil-11-x-11, so in and of itself nothing special (although I may be wrong)
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:39 pm
KLind
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themightymooker wrote:
I don't really see a puzzle in that response email. I did some research on the phrases "light-like," "space-like," and "time-like." They all imply that we're dealing with some high-level science, particularly that of quantum spacetime and general relativity. Pretty cool stuff, albeit a bit over my head.
Yeah the only thing I could think of was the subject line being 'sand box' but that's not a lot to work from either.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:08 pm
Melchizedek
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Joined: 16 Jun 2013 Posts: 20 Location: Boston
I'm wondering if we should try contacting the Ogdoad Order again. Does anyone have any ideas of what we should ask? My suggestion is that we ask about what part of the Ogdoad is broken, as per the first email title. I would do it, but I didn't get the email. Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:43 pm
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