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[Peppercorn]

I've rewatched it and... yep, 7:39 and onwards shows Vince's body in the snow with a puddle of blood by his head. So that could fill the gap between "Blue room" and the apartment.

[Phenom]

[SilentMedusa]

[Peppercorn]

Alright guys, here's how I think the entire timeline of this video goes:

- The countdown from "Blue room" ends, Vince shoots himself, and his body gets teleported out into the snow
- He's reincarnated, and from there the whole apartment arc starts (lasting two years)
- One day, Vince is warped from there into his basement (surveillance footage shows him spontaneously appearing), finding the dolls and eventually exiting with the knife shown in later scenes
- On the same day (see: his clothes), HABIT chases him through the woods, tying him down at gunpoint
- HABIT drives him back home (hence driving footage), which is where they eventually have the conversation whose audio is played over earlier scenes ("is that what this screen is for?")
- HABIT plays the suicide footage on the screen in Vince's basement

[Waldron96]

Okay, here's how I reckon it goes:

* Vinny teleports from blue room to basement.
* Vinny shoots himself dead in his basement
* Vinny is reborn in winter, and is chased by HABIT, where he is killed again.
* Vinny awakens in the snow, comes across the apartment.
* Vinny is locked in apartment for almost two years.
* Vinny wakes up in trunk, ventures off into the woods, finds knife and note.
* Vinny comes across two chairs and a mirror. Runs away. Drops the camera.
* Vinny teleports back to basement, with no knife.
* Vinny teleports to the Squatter House, where the knife reappears.
* Vinny teleports to Jeff's upstairs hallway, without knife again. Opens door.
* Vinny is held at shotgun point by HABIT.
* Vinny is taken back to his house by HABIT, and forced to watch his suicide.

[LlewellynBuckhannah]

Sorry if this has been speculated to death, but how exactly do people think the Doctor's sanctuary plays in to this? Is Vinnie prevented from going there somehow because Habit still needs him? Or is he maybe trying to use Vin to get TO the sanctuary, and get the doctor somehow?

I am personally of the opinion that HABs needs Corenthal in some capacity to take down the Slenders. Hopefully time will tell, one way or another.

[Phenom]

Well, don't the guys in MLAndersen need one more of the clock's hands and then supposedly there curse is lifted, and Michael is the only one who can touch them? Maybe thats what HABIT is going to try and do, using Michael.

[Spacerelish]

What a great new entry! I'm honestly so excited to finally see the grand finale of this. The sequence of events are pretty confusing, but I do think the voice over with HABIT and Vinnie takes place after most if not all of the footage. The clip at the start, with the guitar in the background, could that take place after the conversation? Its the same grey and blue as the candleverse, maybe HABIT sent Vin there afterwards.

And something else I noticed. When Vin gets teleported into the basement the first time, before the creepy dolls show up he pans over all those photos. After the lights go out and the dolls appear all the frames are blank.

[Hunter_Omega]

I honestly think we've just been spoon-fed the story. They were planning on us finding this out by solving puzzles. They said we were close, but since a lot of us weren't optimistic about EMH and were frankly tired of ARG elements, we were given this to tie everything together for us.

[edwinpmanchester]

I noticed that about the picture frames missing photos, and also right before that happens (4:13) Slenderman shows up in the video glitch, standing right under where the dolls will be hanging. The big picture frame has one picture still in it, and it looks like Alex I think, looking out the door of his room(?). Then at 4:38 when Vinny touches one of the dolls, after he says HABIT didn't do this, Jeff's face is overlayed through the static, looking from the driverside of a car to the passenger. The most obvious Slenderman appearance is right after at 5:14ish, with him standing in a hallway with the mirror just behind, down the hall. The hallway changes to the door that Vinny is trying to open(?) right after that with Slendy still in the foreground. I don't know what any of that means though...

[edit] Also, I was looking at the picture frame to see what was in it before they disappear, and at 4:04, to the right of the pictures, is the clock from the woods--

[SirLurksALot]

Okay, so, to recap. I know people have posted their timelines already, but this is more for me to just get everything down in a logical manner. So here's my (far too in-depth) analysis of how "2,395" tells us everything that's happened in the past two years.

In "2,395" Vinnie tells HABIT that he locked him in an apartment for two years. In one of the 2015 vids, Vinnie mentions "that night at Jeff's house" frequently. So since "Blue Room" occurs in Jeff's house, Vinnie was most likely referring to the events in that video and the events immediately thereafter, which we hadn't yet seen. Presumably, since those events occurred at least within one night, and since it's been two years since the upload of "Blue Room," we can assume the conversation between HABIT and Vinnie during "2,395" is taking place in the present. Which means that the forest footage of HABIT hunting down Vinnie is also in the present, as the conversation appears to have happened immediately after HABIT "caught" him in the woods with his shotgun. However, even though the background noises appears to be crickets, Vinnie asks "is that what the {this?} screen is for?" when HABIT gets very upset about Vinnie "not showing them," implying that this conversation is happening in Jeff's basement, also telling us the footage of Jeff's basement screen (which is itself showing footage of Vinnie in Jeff's house, but we'll get to that) is in the present.

Great, so now that we've established the present we can figure out the past. Throughout 2015, the video descriptions of the EMH vids have included Vinnie apologizing for not being able to edit the footage of what happened "that night at Jeff's house," or rather, immediately after the events of "Blue Room." Vinnie has told us in his own words what happened in lieu of video footage. He said that he "must have blacked out" while in Jeff's house, because he woke up in the snow, and was chased into Apt. 3103 by three hooded figures and has remained there ever since. HABIT, however, presents a different version of events in "2,395" with some video footage to back it up.

We briefly mentioned before how HABIT was very upset at Vinnie for "not showing them." What could he mean by that? Well, what has Vinnie not shown us yet? The footage immediately after "Blue Room!" Now, many people may assume HABIT to be the kind of person that would yell at somebody for something that is not their fault, like how Vinnie proclaims he was mysteriously "unable to edit" the footage (though there is some merit to the idea that what Vinnie meant was that the footage was too emotionally charged for him to look through, but it's not the most immediate conclusion that could be drawn in a series featuring hidden videos and all sorts of editing shenanigans). However, HABIT has never actually been shown to yell at somebody for no reason, it's either for his own amusement to try and scare them (which wouldn't make sense in this context), or when they don't immediately and explicitly follow his instructions and/or disrespect him. Actually, HABIT has never been shown yet to directly lie. Which means, I, for one, trust his word over Vinnie's. Vinnie, for some reason, didn't want to show us the footage from immediately after "Blue Room".

So what happened after "Blue Room?" We actually see in the video, first simply intercut between the forest scenes, and then a longer take at the very end, presented as punishment for Vinnie, who didn't want us to see him shoot himself. Vinnie materializes in Jeff's basement, and finds slendy dolls before running upstairs. Now, as some people have pointed out, the area in which he finds the knife looks very similar to the squatter's house that HABIT, um, inhabited for a year. However, I think this is still Jeff's house, as the basement to main floor sequence was pretty clearly uncut, and Vinnie shows absolutely no surprise when he runs up to the main floor (it would be confusing to go from Jeff's basement to the squatter's main floor), nor when he runs up to the first floor (it would be even more confusing to go from Jeff's basement to the squatter's main floor to Jeff's upstairs), and shows a great deal of surprise when he winds up in the basement after busting in that door. Vinnie then shoots himself in despair and defeat.

Yes, indeed, Vinnie did not actually "black out" as he claimed, he shot himself in the head, and *someone else* woke him up in the snow (which, as we see in the video, was covered in a blood pattern similar to somebody who has shot themselves in the head). We see some more snow-covered footage in "2,395," and it looks like Vinnie was actually chased by a car. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and presume that there were three hooded figures who later leapt out of the car to chase him into the apartment. However, the most burning questions now are, "Who woke him up?" "How did he wake up?" "Isn't he supposed to be all candleversey like Jeff is now (as seen in the TribeTwelve video "Bridge to Nowhere)?" "Is Vinnie all candleversey and just doesn't realize it?" and, of course, "Was that the clock from MLAndersen0?" and "What next, HABIT? War?"

And there's my analysis. Now, from the top

* "Blue Room" happens
* Vinnie materializes in Jeff's basement without his gun
* Vinnie gets freaked out by Slendydolls, then Slendy himself (also finds knife)
* Vinnie runs upstairs to burst through (Jeff's? Can't remember the house layout, and can't be bothered to dig through the 2010/11 thread to find that time everybody overanalyzed the crap out of it) Jeff's door
* Only to find himself in Jeff's basement "again".
* Vinnie shoots himself
* Somebody wakes up Vinnie in the snow
* Somebody chases Vinnie in the snow with a car
* Presumable three hoodies chase Vinnie into Apt. 3103 (I guess they were out of maskies?)
* Evan crashes at the apartment for Christmas
* Vinnie is left alone to stare at Slendy through his window for a half a year
* After August 2015, Vinnie has no plumbing, left to stare at Slendy for another year and a few moths
* Probably something else happens in that year that we haven't heard about yet
* Vinnie wakes up in a car to be hunted by HABIT through the woods
* HABIT catches Vinnie, forces him and us to watch Vinnie kill himself earlier
* ???
* Profit

TL;DR, everybody else is pretty much right, but Vinnie only died once, basement footage is right after Blue Room, and (probably) no teleporting to the squatter house.

(OOG note. Was the squatter's house Jeff's house the whole time? Cause that staircase was featured prominently in the videos as the squatter's house, but I know of no other house that has that weird three-sides-of-an-octagon door layout that Jeff's upstairs has left of the top of the stairs.)

[funds]

I'm trying to compile a map of sorts of the area EMH takes place, to help better understand this narrative. Through locations seen and mentioned throughout the series I've put together a rough estimate of the area (around Princeton, NJ) but several of the locations seen in the videos have confused me, the clearing with the tree and the location of "A Day with Green Feathers" specifically.
If anyone here has tried anything similar or knows the exact locations the videos take place, I would really appreciate it if you shared.

[Peppercorn]

The wiki has a page on Important Locations. You're thinking of Baldpate Mountain and Mercer County Park, respectively.

[Phenom]

I'm just going to post this here cause I think there might be a connection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O06mg-EZYzc

Happy Halloween everyone

[Ataxis]