unforum

[jshall]

Convos with OhVerisimilitude...

[Macavity]

I've had a couple convos with OVL myself.

Here's the more recent one:

[chaosgenerator89]

this is my most recent convo with OV. most people say it is the "most intense" but i would say it was when he invited about 12 people into a chat room and we got to ask him questions. now THAT was fun!

[jshall]

Well, when I talked to him this time I tried to get some personal information out of him and I did. Apperenlty his name is Sachchit(its Hindu in origin and means truth and conscienceness)
jshall101: hello
OhVerisimilitude: Hello.
jshall101: how are you
OhVerisimilitude: I am well. How are you?
jshall101: im good i've just been thinking a lot
OhVerisimilitude: Good.
jshall101: ha
jshall101: i've been wondering if what i see is a lie and all of this is a sham
OhVerisimilitude: All of what?
jshall101: the world everything around me
jshall101: all that "exists"
OhVerisimilitude: Have you come to any conclusions?
jshall101: yes
OhVerisimilitude: I see.
jshall101: but thats enough of my ramblings
OhVerisimilitude: Alright.
jshall101: i have some more questions for you
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
jshall101: who are you?
OhVerisimilitude: I have to go for a few moments. I will return and answer your questions.
OhVerisimilitude is idle at 4:36:59 PM.
OhVerisimilitude is no longer idle at 4:40:18 PM.
OhVerisimilitude: I am back.
OhVerisimilitude: My name is Sachchit.
jshall101: where are you from if thats not too personal??
OhVerisimilitude: I am on the East Coast of the United States.
jshall101: im in the midwest its a nice placetoo many corn fields tho
jshall101: do you have a job
OhVerisimilitude: I work.
jshall101: interesting
jshall101: got any hobbies
OhVerisimilitude: Yes. I write, I read, I think, I live.
jshall101: Sachchit is an interesting name..... i've never heard it before
OhVerisimilitude: I agree.
jshall101: something tells me your not orginally from america
OhVerisimilitude: Where might you think I am from?
jshall101: The middle east or somewhere in asia
jshall101: lower asia that is
OhVerisimilitude: I see.
jshall101: am i right
OhVerisimilitude: Perhaps. Perhaps not.
jshall101: you just seem to have a very zen attitude
OhVerisimilitude: Buddhism has some truthful tales, though ultimately it leads to emptiness.
jshall101: im not trying to be intrusive but do worship a religion
OhVerisimilitude: No. That is pointless.
jshall101: why is that??
OhVerisimilitude: Religion itself is powerless. Only God is worthy of worship.
jshall101: yeah i think religions do get stuck in cerimonies and sacrements and forget whats important
OhVerisimilitude: Indeed.
]

New convo.
jshall101: hello
OhVerisimilitude: Hello.
jshall101: How are you??
OhVerisimilitude: I am well. How are you?
jshall101: I'm fine. I just got back from a swimming meeting.
OhVerisimilitude: That is good. How did it go?
jshall101: It went well I think we have a good chance to win state this year.
OhVerisimilitude: Good.
jshall101: yeah should be fun
jshall101: So hows life??
OhVerisimilitude: Life is good.
jshall101: thats good to hear
OhVerisimilitude: Indeed.
jshall101: Well, it looks like things are not getting better in Iraq.
OhVerisimilitude: Is Fallujah not being secured?
jshall101: It is but its jsut costing a lot of lives. Its not the way i would want to see it done.
OhVerisimilitude: I agree.
jshall101: We should have Saddam pulicly denounce the insurgancy. Then they would have nothing to fight for.
OhVerisimilitude: That doesn't sound like a bad idea, although I doubt it will happen.
jshall101: Yeah, It would make things a lot easier.
jshall101: Do you play any sports??
OhVerisimilitude: Not currently, no.
jshall101: till next time friend
jshall101: bye
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
OhVerisimilitude: Until next time,
OhVerisimilitude: Toodle-oo!

[Guest]

Humor?

[Guest]

Download link

[jshall]

jshall101: hello friend
OhVerisimilitude: Hello.
jshall101: how are you
OhVerisimilitude: I cannot say.
jshall101: why is that
OhVerisimilitude: I cannot answer that either.
OhVerisimilitude: Is there something in particular you are interested in?
jshall101: yes actually
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
jshall101: im very interested in the matrix
OhVerisimilitude: How so?
jshall101: well im interested in why your site is called the matrix is real
OhVerisimilitude: I see. I am a seeker of truth. The website is an excellent tool in my journey.
jshall101: ahhhh interesting
jshall101: what started you on your quest for truth
OhVerisimilitude: I have been on my journey for quite some time. I do not know that I can name a catalyst.
jshall101: thats interesting
jshall101: so what do you hope to accomplish on this quest for the truth
OhVerisimilitude: My journey has led me many places I did not expect to pass through. I seek to gain wisdom and understanding, as well as an enhanced ability to discern truth from falsehood.
OhVerisimilitude: This is a journey I do not see ending for quite some time.
jshall101: intersting
OhVerisimilitude: I agree.
jshall101: what have you learned about love
jshall101: i need a lot of help in that area
OhVerisimilitude: Love is beyond description. True love cannot be defeated.
jshall101: well i guess i didnt have true love then
OhVerisimilitude: Any attempt at reducing it to words will fail to encapsulate the full semantics behind love, but even in difficult situations love is prevalent and sometimes wins out even when it appears to have vanished.
jshall101: well trust me this love is gone for good and i know i cant get it back
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
jshall101: at least it is to me .....
OhVerisimilitude: Alright. It is good to recognize when this point is reached.
jshall101: yeah love is a messed up thing to me it seems to never ever make sense or work out
OhVerisimilitude: I do not believe love has to make sense.
jshall101: thats for sure
jshall101: anyways
jshall101: do you swim
OhVerisimilitude: Yes.
jshall101: i mean like on a competative team
OhVerisimilitude: No.
jshall101: well let me tell its not fun
OhVerisimilitude: Alright. Why not?
jshall101: i have over 6 hours of practice a day
OhVerisimilitude: Ah.
jshall101: but im going to be great
jshall101: or thats what they keep telling me
OhVerisimilitude: Good.
jshall101: yeah i really hope i can beat my brother
jshall101: hes an amazing swimmer and its hard living in his shadow
OhVerisimilitude: I see.
OhVerisimilitude: Whatever you put your mind to, for the most part, you can achieve.
jshall101: thats what my dad says( hes our high school team coach) he says visulazing our swims will make us better
OhVerisimilitude: That is most likely truth.
jshall101: a lot sports are mind over matter once you a get to a certain point in your training
OhVerisimilitude: Indeed.
jshall101: im just hoping my mind is stronger than my brothers
OhVerisimilitude: May I ask how old you and he are?
jshall101: No I don't mind at all
jshall101: I'm 15
jshall101: my bros 17
jshall101: hes got age on me but not determination
OhVerisimilitude: That is quite a difference at that age. You will have to work hard to become faster than him.
OhVerisimilitude: If what you say is true, then you should be successful.
jshall101: im really hoping i can just make a name for my self and not be know as his little brother anymore
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
jshall101: May I ask how old you are?
OhVerisimilitude: I am older than young and younger than old.
jshall101: so about 28 to 35 ??....
OhVerisimilitude: Perhaps. Perhaps not.
jshall101: interesting
jshall101: you seem like a philosopher to me
OhVerisimilitude: Have you ever thought about tomorrow? Have you ever thought about time? If so, then you are a philosopher.
jshall101: i guess we all are then
OhVerisimilitude: Not all. Some only see what is in front of them.
jshall101: the unexamined life is one not worth living
OhVerisimilitude: To those who examine their own lives, perhaps. I assure you some would wish they only saw what was directly in front of them.
jshall101: Oh why is that
OhVerisimilitude: Some cannot stop looking at their past. Some cannot stop looking at what they believe to be the future. Some cannot stop seeing pain.
jshall101: oh yeah i know a few people like that
OhVerisimilitude: Then you know what I mean.
jshall101: yeah its almost impossible to make tham happy they forget thier sarrow for a while maybe a nite or so but then it always comes back
OhVerisimilitude: Indeed.
jshall101: I have a bad felling sachchit
OhVerisimilitude: What is it?
jshall101: like some conflict or climax is coming something big ya know
jshall101: cant you feel it
jshall101: its thick in the air
OhVerisimilitude: I hear what you are saying. The atmosphere is changing, and with any change there is conflict.
jshall101: yeah something big
jshall101: i have a feeling it has to do with the matrix
jshall101: i just wish i knew more about the matrix so i could wrap my head around this feeling more
OhVerisimilitude: Beware the two brother's interpretation. For some during this season it will hold water, but in due time it will wither as grass under the sun.
jshall101: yes you've told me that before
jshall101: can you tell me why it will wither under the sun
OhVerisimilitude: Because it is blatantly flawed.
jshall101: what is blatantly flawed with it
OhVerisimilitude: Much.
jshall101: can you give me an example
OhVerisimilitude: For one, the Keymaster is not dead. The one who controls the locks is alive and well.
jshall101: how do you know hes alive?? Have you had contact with him??
OhVerisimilitude: That is all I can say at the moment.
jshall101: im starting to think you might be involved in the matrix
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
jshall101: are you??
OhVerisimilitude: The movies are fiction.
jshall101: the movies are fiction but the keymaker is real...... seems a little strange to me that a charactor from something fiction really exists
OhVerisimilitude: The "Keymaster" has many names.
jshall101: what other names does he have than the keymaster
OhVerisimilitude: We cannot discuss this further at the moment.
jshall101: why not
OhVerisimilitude: Please take this at face value: I cannot.
jshall101: im sorry i didnt mean to push you
OhVerisimilitude: No apology is necessary for curiosity.
jshall101: do you know how i could learn of the matrix on my own
OhVerisimilitude: Watch the movies.
jshall101: i thought you said they were fiction
OhVerisimilitude: Indeed.
jshall101: then wont they just cloud my ideas the more i watch them
OhVerisimilitude: You are already understanding it more.
jshall101: lol
jshall101: can you clear it up for me
jshall101: are you saying the is truth to the movies but they fail on key points
OhVerisimilitude: I am seeking truth. As I said before, I can only reflect what you and I can see. The movies will only serve to cloud your mind, as you have said.
jshall101: but you said to learn about the matrix i should watch the movies
OhVerisimilitude: Yes.
jshall101: alright tell me this What is the "real" matrix
OhVerisimilitude: What is it?
OhVerisimilitude: What do you see it as?
jshall101: i see it as something that two brothers thought up to make money
jshall101: but apprently there is some real true to it
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
OhVerisimilitude: View it as you view it. You are not lost.
jshall101: so what do you think it is. The real one not the one the brother created.
OhVerisimilitude: The movies were an interpretation of reality. Reality is not like that. Have you ever looked up the word 'matrix' in the dictionary?
jshall101: yes actually
OhVerisimilitude: It has many definitions, just as reality does. My best piece of advice is to not let others tell you how reality is unless you are sure they know.
jshall101: it says many things but one that sticks out to me
jshall101: its this "A situation or surrounding substance within which something else originates, develops, or is contained: "Freedom of expression is the matrix, the indispensable condition, of nearly every form of freedom" (Benjamin N. Cardozo). "

jshall101: so does someone control the real matrix like in the movies
OhVerisimilitude: I cannot accept messages in unicode.
OhVerisimilitude: Whatever you sent before "jshall101: so does someone control the real matrix like in the movies" was not received
jshall101: oh well it was just a definition
jshall101: so does someone control the real matrix like in the movies
OhVerisimilitude: I am curious as to which one stuck out to you.
OhVerisimilitude: The "real matrix" is an oxymoron.
jshall101: oh well it says " a situation or surronding substance within which something else originates develops or is contained
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
jshall101: thats the defintion that stuck out to me
OhVerisimilitude: I see.
jshall101: why is "the real matrix" an oxymoron
OhVerisimilitude: I believe this has been answered within the context of this conversation.
jshall101: iteresting im very confused but i hope things will clear up as time goes
OhVerisimilitude: As do I.
jshall101: well you seem to know much more than i do
jshall101: i just wish i knew a little about that site you have
jshall101: its kinda crazy
OhVerisimilitude: Kinda.
jshall101: well it appears to be counting down to something and i know a lot of people out there wish they knew what it was counting down to
OhVerisimilitude: It is moving forward for the time being.
jshall101: thats good
jshall101: well my friend i must be going now
OhVerisimilitude: Ok.
jshall101: untill next time
jshall101: good bye
OhVerisimilitude: Until next time,
OhVerisimilitude: Toodle-oo!

Its a long one but it has some good stuff in it confusing but good.

[New2This]

who do you think the keymaster is? like, what other names does he have?

[New2This]

SCHWEET!!! I have a tidbit of information that Sachchit has requested not be said until Sunday. I so so so wanna tell you but I won't until then. This is gonna change things BIG for a lot of y'all... I have to say I'm quite happy with what it is.

I can't think of aclue to give you, so you'll just have to wait to see whati t is. It's quite unbelievable when I think about it, but it makes sense for how everything has been hapening.

ttyl!!

[New2This]

tomorrow's gonna be interesting...

[Quirk]

feel free to IM me as soon as it turns midnight

[New2This]

do you know what's gonna happen too? or do you want to know what happens?

[Quirk]

i have no idea.... i would like to be notified... but i can always check back here

[jshall]

OK its tommorow now tell us please!!!!!!!!!!!!

[New2This]