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[drseuss90]

what about the flea? The covanant virus. I was under the impression that the virus gave the covanant the location of the artifact, not the blasts from the artifact. If that was they case, then they should have expected humans because they knew they put the virus into a human AI.

[MetaPhysical]

Mmmkay heres some speculation from my end. ***WARNING*** Prepare for a long read :p.

[thebruce]

I like that... a lot of that sounds really good, and it gives an explanation for

[MetaPhysical]

Thanks for the welcome. I am glad I found this sight. I have not been so enthralled in a game's story since I was about 10 and got into the battle tech universe briefly when I began playing Mech Warrior 2. It is nice to discuss the story of the game with other people who have vastly different ideas of what is going on, it gives me the opportunity to mull over ideas I never would have though of.

And yeah I know that wasn't a terribly long read haha, but I have frequented forums where people would ask for a cliffs notes version of a post that long, lol.

Btw you are in Kitchener eh Bruce? I am a student at the University of Guelph. We are less than an hour away :p.

[thebruce]

nice! I work 10 minutes from UW... Must be that good'ol Canadian intellect



*ducks and hides*

[NSA]

Up on Bungie.net today..

[NSA]

Also..

[Twk178]

That's a "known," though, isn't it? That Gravemind is the Flood main brain-type thing?

...He'd definitely have to be the last repository of Forerunner knowledge, however... If Cortana can engage him and learn more... She could be our key to finding out the rest of the world's story.

--also, anyone else catch this? -->
"The Marathon throwback was a big twist. We knew people expected the jump to Halo 2 and since we were presenting Halo 2 as "the future" in RvB, in seemed like a funny and surprising way to represent the past. We have had many, many e-mails informing us that while Marathon was released before Halo, it actually takes place many years after Halo in the official Bungie timeline. I want to remind these people that we made our characters travel through time by literally "knocking them into next week". You're going to have to suspend your disbelief a little."
It's from the Red vs. Blue interview on Bungie's main site now... Maybe someone with more Marathon experience can explore the implications of this?

[chaotic_mind]

The timeline he may be refering to her could possibly be the The Lost Network Packets.

I think the relevent point here is that the events of Marathon take place in the 28th century.

Here is some analysis of Marathon's dates.


Luke P.

[NSA]

Well the "Marathon Twist" was at the end of the latest RvB episode (43 I believe) when they made the switch to the Halo 2 engine. They had church blown "into the past" so to speak, and they used the Marathon game engine to represent this. In Marathon the character looked kinda like a SPARTAN so it looks like a poorly drawn RvB character. Of couse in opposite to the 'new' 'shiny' Halo2 RvB characters.

As for the timeline.. there are various speculations about how the two stories merge together in the timeline somehow, like how the entities in Marathon ARE the forerunner and they used time-travel etc to somehow be our ancestors.. weird stuff like that, which I cant usually wrap my mind around

[MetaPhysical]

I would be interested to know for sure if Marathon and Halo are tied into each other at all. I was almost sure that I had read that Bungie said the two stories were unrelated, but that they would frequently throw in refrences just because Bungie likes to do that kind of stuff.

Besides, who is going to want to buy such an old game to get more into the story? Unless they decide to do an overhaul and re-release it?

[MetaPhysical]

Alright here is the Marathon timeline:

Bungie's official (corrected) Marathon time line is as follows:


2194- War between Icarus and Thermopylae.
2395- Purchase of Deimos from Free holders by UESG
2402- Doors Manual written up
2405- Marathon project begins pre-construction phase
2408- Deimos Conversion begins
2442- Misriah Massacre at food Riot
2465- Martians place munitions on Marathon
2466- Failed Martian Coup, MIDA controls government for short period.
2472- Launch of Marathon
2773- Marathon arrives at Tau Ceti
2787- Colony established
2794- Marathon attacked

Now from what I gather from what I have read about Marathon (and I am indeed a little sketchy on things), Marathon is a colony ship, that was launched in 2472 and took 300 years to arrive at its destination (presumably with crew in stasis).

Why doesnt this make sense? Why are the bolded dates important? Because here is a tidbit from the Halo timeline:

2291 - A team of researchers, physicists, and mathematicians working in secret developed the Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine, a practical means of propelling spacecraft across vast interstellar distances. This new engine allowed ships to tunnel into "the Slipstream" (also called "Slipspace").

2362 Jan 1 - The Odyssey is launched. The lead ship in the colony vessels, the Odyssey-laden with troops and terra forming gear-spearheads the colonization of a new world. This sparked the first wave of human expansion beyond the confines of the Solar System.

Since slipspace travel was made possible before Marathons launch, and because slipspace capable ships were also launched before its preconstruction, then why isnt it equiped with slipspace equipment? or why did its voyage take 300 years? Unless its destination was in another galaxy, these two descrepancies between the story would indicate that the Halo universe was made exclusive of the Marathon one.

I would imagine that if Bungie had tieing the two in mind, that they would have made the Halo timeline congruant with Marathon's by having the creation of slipspace travel after the Marathons launch.

Sorry if I ruined anyones fun.

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