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Halo - The Movie?!
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Clayfoot
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vector wrote:
But lets face it, any Halo move is going to be done in CG anyway, as in Final Fantasy.
I don't see that as a foregone conclusion, but I do see how lots of CG would have to be included (energy swords and whatnot). I wonder if the same voice actor could do the adult MC in the movie, since he never takes his helmet off anyway. My gooey insides say yet, but my cynical, cruncy outside says no. Every Hollywood movie wants a name-brand star, and needs a romantic subplot. Sorry, but I just see no romance while the Mjollnir stays on.
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As far as a romantic subplot goes, I think the answer is fairly obvious: Cortana. Cortana was supposed to be a 2.0 that washed out, but she and MC 'got along' while they were in training together. Makes sense to me.

You can fuss about a director all day long, but if the script isn't there, the movie will fail. Frankly, the guy that's written the best script involving Halo is Sean Stewart, so let's give him another job. I'll help, because I've already got the entire movie planned out in my head.
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DreamOfTheRood wrote:
As far as a romantic subplot goes, I think the answer is fairly obvious: Cortana. Cortana was supposed to be a 2.0 that washed out, but she and MC 'got along' while they were in training together. Makes sense to me.

You can fuss about a director all day long, but if the script isn't there, the movie will fail. Frankly, the guy that's written the best script involving Halo is Sean Stewart, so let's give him another job. I'll help, because I've already got the entire movie planned out in my head.


Cortana comes from Dr. Hasley, who is the lead of the spartan project. Hasley's brain was flash cloned, and they made Cortana from that.
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Buzzkill247 wrote:
Ever read the book Do Electric Sheep Dream?


Phaedra -just want to add my voice to the many others to suggest you watch Bladerunner and Alien Smile

But the book's title is actually "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" by Philip K. Dick. It's brilliant, but different to the movie - you can enjoy both for different reasons (Rutger Hauer is great!).
PKD's good friend KW Jeter wrote a couple of sequels to Bladerunner in the 1990's, but having read only the second, it isn't really as good as the first. After the first one (which Buzzkill so eloquently summed up), the sequel doesn't seem to add much more.

As for Alien - there is a series of novelisations (by Alan Dean Foster) but those are missable. The movies, on the other hand, are fantastic Smile

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Everyone wrote:
Phaedra -just want to add my voice to the many others to suggest you watch Bladerunner and Alien
I insist that you ignore them! I need at least one piece of pop culture that I know more about than you! And,.... stuff!
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Ever since Spawn I've been super-skittish about anything like this.

I dunno, More than anything I just have NO faith in hollywood to make a movie where we NEVER see the protagonist's face.
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hor me, I'd rather they not make a movie centered around MC... IMO that would kill the atmosphere of the game, because it would then be like, say playing Halo 3 you'd constantly be comparing the visual and the characters with what you saw in the movie... meh... the game is the game... making a movie? Do it ILB style... maybe other spartans, but leave MC & Cortana as stars in the video game, not the movie...
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from another perspective, there could be two results - a movie where the main character IS the main game character, and you run the risk of clashing the plots, the characters, having to do a lot more work in making sure the game matches up as best it can with the movie. Or, you end up with two separate entities, and in the end the movie uses the same 'world', but everything is just 'based on' the game. eg, Tomb Raider. The movies are just so different than the game, especially the character. IMO, Tomb Raider is a movie based on the video game, and they just don't mesh. Whereas, well, what's another example of a movie that IS intended to be with the game? Well, a good result is the fact that movies based on games that are intended to be totally true to the game usually flop (mario bros, eg)...

actually, I don't think there has been a movie true to a video game that has done well... if any movie like has succeeded, more than likely it's taken its own path in order to be its own entity, and be successful as a movie.

So yeah, make a Halo movie? The only way to keep it true to the game is to make it a parallel plot so it doesn't "interfere" per se, with the game's characters and plot...

*clink* goes the 2pence
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Hey, hey, hey! Don't knock the faceless major character! Darth Vader went a whole movie without showing his face. And Jason? He was even a good guy (sorta) in the last movie. And when did we ever see anyone's eyeballs in The Matrix? Faces are highly overrated. Arnold should've been wearing a bag several films ago. Steve Buscemi should have just started with one. Don't knock the mask!
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drseuss90 wrote:
Cortana comes from Dr. Hasley, who is the lead of the spartan project. Hasley's brain was flash cloned, and they made Cortana from that.


Your Halo-fu is strong.

As far as good sci-fi movies go, do not watch the Director's Cut of Blade Runner. It's like being slowly sucked through a straw into the gaping maw of a cenobite.
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gkrohne wrote:
Hey, hey, hey! Don't knock the faceless major character! Darth Vader went a whole movie without showing his face. And Jason? He was even a good guy (sorta) in the last movie. And when did we ever see anyone's eyeballs in The Matrix? Faces are highly overrated. Arnold should've been wearing a bag several films ago. Steve Buscemi should have just started with one. Don't knock the mask!

not knocking the faceless... just saying movies fully true to a game generally suck, and movies based on a game that tend to move in their own direction generally do better. The best answer IMO for Halo is a parallel plot in the same univese. Leave the game to the game, let it remain untainted by a movie trying to emulate the game on the big screen...

hey, so tell me why did I write out those two huge recent posts? this was my point, in a nutshell... Smile
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thebruce wrote:
hey, so tell me why did I write out those two huge recent posts? this was my point, in a nutshell... Smile


As far as I'm concerned, you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that writing huge amounts of text is what you do.
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I absolutely agree on the Chief thing. I do not EVER want to know what he looks like outside that armor, and do not trust Hollywood to keep to that. I'm certain they have heroes lose the mask or helmet or whatever so we have a more 'human' connection to them, but it weakens the hero image, in my mind. I don't even want to know what the Chief looked like as a kid. I did my best to skip whatever descriptions of him there were in the books.

As far as the movie goes, I think it could be interesting if they did the first human/covenant battle. It was mentioned in The Fall of Reach, but there were no real details. They could make a great movie with the human ships fighting as desperately as they could to get clear and warn Earth, then they all DIE. How's that for drama? (Actually, did one ship survive? I don't recall.)

There's just a whole hell of a lot you can do with the Haloverse. If they felt absolutely compelled to do Spartans, they could always do some members of the Chief's class on a mission where they don't see the Chief.

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My opinion of this whole idea changes by the minute. Sometimes, I'm all like, "We need to see the Master Chief." Then, I'm all like, "No, why not explore the universe more."
However, from a business perspective, Master Chief and the Haloes are the big draw. You need both of those things to make a Halo film, because that's where the money is.
So, here's my final assessment: a 2-hour Halo film cannot be made and do justice to the series.
See, you have to have Master Chief and the Halo for the draw, and thus you need to use the plot of the first game. Yet, you can't turn a 20-hour videogame's plot into a 2-hour movie plot. It doesn't really work. So, unless they do something really creative that doesn't invlolve Master Chief, I don't see this flick ever hitting screens.
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...or at least, not respectably Smile
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