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danman_d
Decorated
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 233 Location: New York, NY
PUZZLE: Greywethers WPFE puzzle The other thread is getting absurdly long, so I thought I'd put discussion for this puzzle here.
konamouse wrote:
either that was just too easy, or i'm smart (i'd go with the former).
here is the next page:
http://www.greywethers.net/wpfe.html
Spoiler:
"a wish to share and I can send my note for hope on again a few to bare a secret to"
that's a strange poem, there's no denying
another task that you'll find trying
the letters and spaces, count them all
and nine by nine defines the walls
another shape shall lie inside
where your next piece of truth resides
_________________"Illegitimi non carborundum"
QmFzZTY0IGlzIGZvciBnZWVrcy4=
cW5hYWw= @ cGJ0YXZndmlydW5lemJhbA== . YXJn
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 6:20 pm
danman_d
Decorated
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 233 Location: New York, NY
OK, there are 82 characters including spaces. Which ALMOST fits into a 9x9 grid:
Code:
A_WISH_TO
_SHARE_AN
D_I_CAN_S
END_MY_NO
TE_FOR_HO
PE_ON_AGA
IN_A_FEW_
TO_BARE_A
_SECRET_T
O
Nothing jumps out at me here. Anyone have any more ideas?
-Dan
_________________"Illegitimi non carborundum"
QmFzZTY0IGlzIGZvciBnZWVrcy4=
cW5hYWw= @ cGJ0YXZndmlydW5lemJhbA== . YXJn
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 6:22 pm
danman_d
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Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 233 Location: New York, NY
The poem is supposed to be shown in the font "High Tower Text" which looks like this:
Probably doesnt matter...
-Dan
_________________"Illegitimi non carborundum"
QmFzZTY0IGlzIGZvciBnZWVrcy4=
cW5hYWw= @ cGJ0YXZndmlydW5lemJhbA== . YXJn
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 6:39 pm
dmax
Unfictologist
Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1387 Location: Location: Location!
I think we need to take the poem and make it a poem.
bare and share are the only two words that rhyme, so they're the ends of the lines. (I doubt that each line ends with "to" but they also rhyme, technically)
Once we have a real poem out of the nonsense, THEN we apply the numerical clue.
_________________That sounds like something HITLER would say!
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 6:44 pm
dmax
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Joined: 09 Jan 2003 Posts: 1387 Location: Location: Location!
partial progress? I can hope to send on a note to bare
and again a wish for a few my secret to share
iambic pentameter it ain't
of course, I'm nowhere near finished.
Is this from digitalis?
_________________That sounds like something HITLER would say!
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 7:01 pm
Caterpillar
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 1887 Location: cem's otherbody
I was working on trying to figure out possibly which space to remove to make it fit the grid. I got the words SAINT and on another attempt HASTE. But it's not getting me far....lol
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 7:07 pm
catherwood
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 4109 Location: Silicon Valley, CA
I slapped together a page with the letters in an html grid for better viewing. This was using the original order of the words, but i'll work on a follow-up version with the words as a rhyming sentence. [revised from 82 letters to 81]
Description
revised for the 81 letters
Download
Filename
wpfe-grid.htm
Filesize
2.41KB
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 7:25 pm
Last edited by catherwood on Sun Jun 08, 2003 7:40 pm; edited 1 time in total
zounds
Veteran
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 146 Location: UK
Thanx for that attachment, bit easier on the eyes.
That extra space or letter is really throwing me out, it says 9x9 defines the wall so I can't see how anything could be outside - but it says also count ALL spaces and letters.
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 7:37 pm
Aveena
Charter Member
Joined: 24 Sep 2002 Posts: 94 Location: on the verge
poem changed The poem has been changed - now it will fit in the 9x9 grid. It now reads:
Quote:
a wish to share and I can send my note for hope on again a few to bare my step to
The change was to replace "a secret" with "my step".
-Veen
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 7:40 pm
danman_d
Decorated
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 233 Location: New York, NY
Revised grid:
Code:
A_WISH_TO
_SHARE_AN
D_I_CAN_S
END_MY_NO
TE_FOR_HO
PE_ON_AGA
IN_A_FEW_
TO_BARE_M
Y_STEP_TO
Read up to down, left to right:
Code:
A DETPITY S NEENO WHID SIA FOABTSRCMON AE HEAYR FRP N AEE TA NHGW TONSOOA MO
lots of almost words in there...
-Dan
_________________"Illegitimi non carborundum"
QmFzZTY0IGlzIGZvciBnZWVrcy4=
cW5hYWw= @ cGJ0YXZndmlydW5lemJhbA== . YXJn
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 7:46 pm
MageSteff
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 2716 Location: State of Denial
SPEC: wpfe page Using the grip that catherwood has put up (thanks btw), the spaces look a bit like the shaw shorthand.
Quote:
another shape shall lie inside
where your next piece of truth resides
I tried yrw.html and yqw.html which were what the possible letters looked like to me. Neither had a good result.
I'll chew on it some more. Maybe as I fall asleep tonight when the barriers between the conscious and unconscious come down I will think of something better.
_________________Magesteff
A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. - Margaret Mead
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:21 pm
Diandra
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Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 390
Grid Attached is the grid, in .jpg format. Hopefully this will make it easier to see the shape inside.
Dia
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Grid
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_________________You can't solve vast puzzles with half-vast ideas!
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 8:45 pm
Caterpillar
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 1887 Location: cem's otherbody
Well I've tried entering it in different ways...straight in, clockwise, and top to bottom. No luck...no shape that I can see (and I used red and black to make it easy to see something if it was there:). I thought may braille...but no luck there either (which makes sense as it said "shape").
~cem
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:18 pm
catherwood
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 4109 Location: Silicon Valley, CA
just figured i'd post my html masterpiece version of what we have in chat so far...
Description
crazy diamond
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Filename
wpfe-grid.htm
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:27 pm
Myssfitz
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Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 695 Location: In the pasture
If this is supposed to be anything like a crossword puzzle, which can sometimes leave a shape with the blank spaces, wouldn't it have to be symmetric?
There are:
3- 1 letter words
6- 2 letter words
4- 3 letter words
6- 4 letter words
2- 5 letter words
20 spaces
_________________Well, Moo
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 10:37 pm
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