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thunderclap8
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Thanks for questions to reply to Vector, gives me an excuse to put off my paper some more! Smile

I'm far from an expert, but here's what I've learned along the way:

I find jumping to be really useful against rocket-weilding opponents in particular. Depriving them of ground under your feet to shoot at is crucial.

Others, well it depends on their skill level. Some can track you through the sky even more effectively than on the ground due to the predictability of your path, but others lose you entirely. So it's a bit of a gamble.

With the shotgun, I tend not to use it as a primary weapon except on defense in an objective game. I'll gladly carry it as a trusty secondary to whip out when I get into close combat (or stumble upon some poor sap not paying attention to his motion detector, i prefer it to bashing for some reason), but i tend to attack from afar and the shotgun just doesn't cut it there.

One of my absolute favorite weapon combos is a plasma pistol and SMG. Charge the plasma pistol before entering combat. Fire it from somewhat medium range, which takes down shields. Then just a few SMG rounds and you're set. The plasma pistol is also great for coming to the rescue of victimized allies. Spraying bullets into a fight is just as likely to hit your man as the other one. But the plasma charge can be a little more fine tuned from closer range than a sniper rifle or such. Interesting thoughts you have on the plasma rifle/SMG combo, the accuracy point makes a lot of sense.

About the dance issue... well I tend to just spastically jerk back and forth while doing my best (and often not enough) to keep the target in the reticle. So I'm not the best to ask for any fine tuned technique. I'm also gradually turning up my sensitivity, which seems to help but I need time to get used to each change.
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is jumping usefull or better to keep your feet on the ground?


From experience last night, I feel it's better to stay on the groud. I find myself running under the "jumpers" and I can blast them with the smg since it walks up while they are on the way down. It's not always that cut and dry, and I suppose it depends on the skill of the jumper, but once I started staying on the ground, I would usually survive the one-on-one encounter.

My previous tactic usually had me and my opponent meeting in mid-air like some low budget Matrix wannabe.
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best attack plan - engage and circle, engage and move side to side (although i tend to run strait at them, lowering his sheilds then mele attack him before he can kill me)? is jumping usefull or better to keep your feet on the ground?

I only jump when the person shooting me has a rocket launcher or a sword. People usually shoot rockets to the ground, so if you're far from the ground, your chances or survival is higher. With swords is the same thing, you have a higher chance of survival against a lunge attack when you're in the air.

Now the shotgun scenario, the best way to do it is to engage when your opponent is not fully aware of you, that's why I made the comment about picking your fights wisely! Now, if you're open on the field and you see a target and he sees you, it's a bit of luck and a bit of skill. You can either rush towards him and try to 1-shot him, or strafe and kill him in 2-3 shots. My point is that I always try to avoid this situation and engage when I think I have an advantage, even if it's slightly. For example, Rendom killed me more than I killed him when we were facing each other fair and square. He's just better with shotguns than I am. But I did get him a couple of times when he was not ready.

Angelo is master at picking the right moment to attack. Most of the time he engages me, he has the upper hand, I'm either reloading my guns or I have my shields down (no jokes, please!), or he's facing me while I'm not facing him, things like that. I try to do the same with him or any other target for that matter.


I don't know if I'm answering what you're looking for. If not, I apologize.
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water10 wrote:
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best attack plan - engage and circle, engage and move side to side (although i tend to run strait at them, lowering his sheilds then mele attack him before he can kill me)? is jumping usefull or better to keep your feet on the ground?

I only jump when the person shooting me has a rocket launcher or a sword. People usually shoot rockets to the ground, so if you're far from the ground, your chances or survival is higher. With swords is the same thing, you have a higher chance of survival against a lunge attack when you're in the air.


Ah interesting i did not know jumping away from the sword was usefull, i have been either running backwards or gettings slashed, good to know.

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thats exactly the kind of stuff im looking for! Thanks! Here have a Burrito!
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water10 wrote:

Angelo is master at picking the right moment to attack. Most of the time he engages me, he has the upper hand, I'm either reloading my guns or I have my shields down (no jokes, please!), or he's facing me while I'm not facing him, things like that. I try to do the same with him or any other target for that matter.


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thunderclap8 wrote:

One of my absolute favorite weapon combos is a plasma pistol and SMG. Charge the plasma pistol before entering combat. Fire it from somewhat medium range, which takes down shields. Then just a few SMG rounds and you're set. The plasma pistol is also great for coming to the rescue of victimized allies. Spraying bullets into a fight is just as likely to hit your man as the other one. But the plasma charge can be a little more fine tuned from closer range than a sniper rifle or such. Interesting thoughts you have on the plasma rifle/SMG combo, the accuracy point makes a lot of sense.


Good point with the plasma pistol! I use the combo often! It is a good idea about useing it to aid a team mate in the midst of a battle, this often comes up in a CTF game. the plasma charge also does a bit of tracking your target after its fired dosent it? very usefull for not killing your teammates!
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ROBOGriff wrote:
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is jumping usefull or better to keep your feet on the ground?

My previous tactic usually had me and my opponent meeting in mid-air like some low budget Matrix wannabe.


Sweet Wink

Speaking of which, i think that RvB needs to do a low budged Matrix episode useing rocket lunges and such. heh
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I still want to know how I managed to put a warthog into the side of the cliff near red base... about 40 feet up

Heh. Just reading that made me hear the AI passengers complaining about 'Hog abuse:


Actually, I wasn't driving it at the time. I was in a spectre, and the 'Hog was abandoned. I was pushing it around by the sniper cliff, and all of a sudden it launched into the air, flying a good hundred yards or more, to detonate into the side of the cliff about 40-50 feet above the ground.

Unfortuantely I think I'm the only one who saw this, and I have no proof... so I'll just have to go back and try and do it again! Wink


Ha! I had the same thing happen to my tank. You know when you get hit by a grenade and you go flying through the air with your arms flailing? That happened to me. And my TANK.

It went flying through the air, spinning wildly, end over end, and smashed into the roof on the top of Coagulation. I died but it was worth it. Very Happy
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Yeah, the plasma pistol does track a little. It seems like it tracks less than it did in Halo though. In Halo if you were aiming anywhere near your opponent, the plasma discharge would have a pretty good chance of hitting. Now it seems you have to be aimed right at the enemy for it to track at all, and even then it won't curve to hit them as much as it used to.
And speaking of plasma pistol combos, I like to use it with the magnum, rather than the SMG. If you shoot an overcharged plasma shot into your opponent, you can kill with one (maybe two) clean headshots from the magnum. Your enemy is dead in less than a second, and he probably didn't even have time to turn around, let alone return fire.
One thing I've noticed in all the tips we're giving here is that nobody's suggesting grenades. With dual wielding, it's all too easy to forget that you have them, but sometimes it really is better to just carry one gun and be able to toss small pieces of exploding doom at your enemy. If you can see one of these SMG dances coming, throw a grenade or two right before you start shooting. If you anticipate where your opponent is going to dance to, you can usually hit him with some splash damage, if not with the full effect of the 'nade. This'll take a lot of the work load off of your SMG, and quite possibly turn the dance in your favor.
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I think I'm going to be on tonight, later. If I finish with my LSAT studying like a good girl.

Don't. No studying; no LSAT; run far from this horrid ordeal oh-so-humorously called "Law School."


Yes, but vortech, darling, I'm absolutely *terrified* of being poor.
Yeah, that was my theory (that and not being trained to do anything in particular) it's just that the few of my friends who has managed to avoid the siren's song of law school seem to have such richer lives. Anybody need an over-educated stay at home dad? I'm good at baking.
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Also, must do well on LSAT to regain my self-esteem, since I'm actually scoring lower than when I took a practice one for fun freshman year, and I've apparently, over the last six months, misplaced four of my IQ points.
Heh. I took one of the review courses and my practice scores went down as a result. It seems I'm better at the logic games when I go on instinct.
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Mm. :(

Anything we can do to help? How can we cheer you up?

Here...picture angelo, glowing like a young sun, covered with shiny blue grenades. :twisted:

Any better? For you, we will find a way to accomplish this thing.

Well, that mostly makes me remember I have not had time for the fun with Angelo or any of you all, but still: explosions are funny. Ah, how I miss the Muppet Show.

Yeah, I'm better. I won't really be right till I get this paper done, but I'm eating again so that's a big improvement. Plus, I learned that the phrase "worry yourself sick" can actually happen. I didn't enjoy the process, but for an etymology buff like me it was almost worth it. Plus, I lost 35 pounds in a week. The week of Thanksgiving. I'd totally be winning that NBC show!*
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Oh, dear. Maybe there's a simple explanation. Have you recently fallen in or out of love? I had an instructor that explicitly warned us not to do either the semester of her class.

One of my First year teachers actually told us to fall out of love, break up with anyone we were dating, and if you were married propose a trial separation. Then again as the year went on he reveled himself to be a compulsive liar and all of his examples were disturbingly detailed descriptions of how he could kill his wife and children and then dispose of their bodies. Strangest Rabbi I ever met.

*since the people here have shown themselves to be nicer and more sympathetic than I deserve or expect, I'll be clear. While this did happen, I'm trying to get laughs, not concern. I'll be fine.
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ooh that sounds nice. do i need a receipt still?


I didn't. Although I think that my tech support person was being nice because his computer stopped working (he blamed a virus) and I was on the phone for an hour. Sad I eventually got his manager who just pushed the repair ticket through. Hopefully you can be convincing too!

Just call their tech support number and choose the option for hardware/accessories. Don't waste time on email.
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One of my First year teachers actually told us to fall out of love, break up with anyone we were dating, and if you were married propose a trial separation. Then again as the year went on he reveled himself to be a compulsive liar and all of his examples were disturbingly detailed descriptions of how he could kill his wife and children and then dispose of their bodies. Strangest Rabbi I ever met.


This was a Rabbi that said this? Chas v'shalom!
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My previous tactic usually had me and my opponent meeting in mid-air like some low budget Matrix wannabe.

Ha. I had an awesome kill like this last night. I saw Silrn and he saw me. We both run at each other and jumped at, what it seemed to be the exact same time! He throw a grenade and I 1-shot him with the shotgun when we just crashed in mid-air. Pretty funny!

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One thing I've noticed in all the tips we're giving here is that nobody's suggesting grenades. With dual wielding, it's all too easy to forget that you have them, but sometimes it really is better to just carry one gun and be able to toss small pieces of exploding doom at your enemy. If you can see one of these SMG dances coming, throw a grenade or two right before you start shooting. If you anticipate where your opponent is going to dance to, you can usually hit him with some splash damage, if not with the full effect of the 'nade.

Grenades are tricky, but certainly useful! I don't fare well with grenades and 1 SMG. But I certainly use it when that's all I have! I always would take dual wielding instead of using grenades whenever possible, since I'm not the best grenade thrower. One thing I notice is that whenever my oponent notices I only have 1 weapon and he has 2, he charges towards me, making it harder to use grenades, unless I have a plasma one!

I usually do well with grenades and battle rifles on big maps, mostly mid range. Grenades help to take down the shield and just aim for the head with the battle rifle! I love to use this on coagulation!

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water10 wrote:
Grenades are tricky, but certainly useful! I don't fare well with grenades and 1 SMG. But I certainly use it when that's all I have! I always would take dual wielding instead of using grenades whenever possible, since I'm not the best grenade thrower. One thing I notice is that whenever my oponent notices I only have 1 weapon and he has 2, he charges towards me, making it harder to use grenades, unless I have a plasma one!

I usually do well with grenades and battle rifles on big maps, mostly mid range. Grenades help to take down the shield and just aim for the head with the battle rifle! I love to use this on coagulation!


I find playing with grenades better than the dual weapon, but that could be becuase I prefer to ambush my enemies and my aim is terrible, especially with the way dual smg creeps... or is that just me?

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water10 wrote:

Angelo is master at picking the right moment to attack. Most of the time he engages me, he has the upper hand, I'm either reloading my guns or I have my shields down (no jokes, please!), or he's facing me while I'm not facing him, things like that. I try to do the same with him or any other target for that matter.



MASTER?!? Hehehe. If only he could see my screen while I'm playing...
Oooooo.... Look that's a pretty red dot. Lets go shoot at it...


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I'm surprized you were able to restrain yourself CL.
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