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[Love Fist]

Well i'm glad everything is cool. I look forward to working with all of you. I shouldn't even be on here right now--I have a huge exam tomorrow and should be studying But i'm finding it hard to concentrate with "The Cache" lurking in the back of my mind.....

[rowan]

[miss_seph]

Great, well, now that we've gotten over THAT, we have a new puzzle to work on, but the hiding room is not over and done with- There is still this pesky mezzanine room...

[pronage]

Just started the game yesterday, but I've got a few wild guesses. (maybe some of thse have been posted, but I haven't had time to go through all posts)

The starsign capricorn: This doesn't have to be Jon's. It could well be that it is the sign of HIM. Both have horns, that's for sure.

The diary in the safe does not tell us much we didn't already know. There might be some clues to the mezzanine password though. There are a lot of books and movies he likes, so one of those could be the key.

There is one reference to the lottery in the diary. There have been previous posts on Fibonacci numbers and Hilbert Matrices. I read the 'Rule of four' recently. A (not so good) thriller on a couple of students who are trying to crack the Hypnerotomachia Poliphili. Some weird un-understandable renaissance book. The key to the book was in Fibonacci numbers. Fibonacci numbers corresponded to certain words and pages in the Hypnerotomachia Poliphili, reveiling puzzles that had to be solved in order to get new clues on the Hypnerotomachia Poliphili's real purpose. It turned in the end that the Hypnerotomachia Poliphili contained information on a secret 'safe' that was created in order to keep important art and documents safe from the vatican that saw the 'scientific' rennaisance art as pagan.

To cut a long story short, the key to the puzzle might be in the Book of Star and this key shows itself when the Fibonacci numbers are applied. Problem is, how do we get to it?

[pronage]

Forget my last post. I'm a newbie inthis game. I had another look at the lodge's flash pages on pathway travel. There are some references to numbers.

Gray lodge has the 'A complete red herring' sentence
Hilbert Hotel: I loved room 44 (1?) a perfect square!
The house of Reiche: 21/21 perfect
Valhalla: Here is the number puzzle that has the 'thcrc'. The c's should be rapleced by e's to get the correct word. Maybe the numbers here are 3's or 5's.
Europa has the 'A complete red herring' sentence.

For as far as my English goes I believe 'a complete red herring' means that its bogus. Is that true?

That leaves the other places.

44 (two d's?)
21/21 (two u's?) or divide = 1 = a?
3 3 (two c's?) or 5 5 (two e's)

There are also two refrences to perfect, which could assume that we must look for a symmetrical word.

At second thought, maybe maybe it's too far fetched.

[anonym]

I believe we are not talking about 44 but about 441, which is a perfect square.... 21 square! the root of 441 is 21. maybe this refers to the same thing as the 21/21 statement.
it surely says something about a room

but... what is the meaning of 21 in this game?

[SuperJerms]

Well, I'm a bit late, but welcome to the unforums, Love Fist! 'grats on the solve!

Pronage, you're english is correct on the "red herring."

[pronage]

Well to get back to the book I read that's filled with Fibonacci numbers (The rule of four). I looked it up. Initially they took the first letter of each chapter of the hypnerotomachia polliphili. Those letters formed a riddle. After solving a whole bunch of other riddles hidden in pictures. They came out with a bunch of coordinates (lattitude, longitude). The code was finally cracked using these coordinates. Taking the first letter of a chapter, go four letters down, go four to the right and go four up. That was the rule of four.

Here it looks a bit similar. The Sable & Shuck site is talking about coordinates (their office locations) and there are coordinates in one of the lodges guest books as well. The 441 could be some rule that needs to be applied to a book to get to a puzzle that will lead to the place where the coordinates need to be applied.

Well I leave this to someone with more knowledge on this stuff. All I know is I enjoyed the 'rule fo four' book and this looks similar. That's where it ends for me.

[Love Fist]

Ahhh, but we all should know where the 21/21 and the 441 connection is....look at our Hornchurch Crossword!! Yup, it is based in a 21x21 grid of which there are 441 individual squares. Obviously we are meant to derive some message from the completed crossword--perhaps using a method similar to the one pronage is describing above. I have made an excel spreadsheet of the completed crossword and numbered the empty squares to help us in this, can anyone that can host it provide me with their e-mail addy so I can send it to you?

[cryurchin]

[Homeless]

Crossword.xls

[Frzndaqiri]

6 and 9 are missing the highlight

[pronage]

I went back to the Hilbert lodge guest book, and the pages have changed. I do not know for sure where tough. All I am sure about is that Ophidia in Herba was on the right side of a page, now it is on the left side. It seems as if a entry was added.

[strife777]

I believe the guestbooks are randomly created on load, with some "entries" appearing everytime, but not necessarily in the same place. Could be wrong though.

[thijsonline]

hmm it seems the pages changes from position every time i refresh the page. anyway, taking a look at the diary of Jon, he says he's going to a library. Well, this must be babel in Hilbert's Hotel. And we can see this entry: "I was extremely disappointed to find that the book I wanted was missing. A wasted trip."
Hmm maybe it's Jon?