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01-01-05 Email - Apple Harbor Symbol Code
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Sin Vraal
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01-01-05 Email - Apple Harbor Symbol Code

OK got this e-mail from Apple Harbor Webadmin about 15 minutes ago... and here's the solve for it as best I can figure.

Edit: Title of the email is:
131313131313131313131313131313131313131313131313
josh.jpg
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josh.jpg


PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:49 pm
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Sin Vraal
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Spoiler alert - my solve for this puzzle

Step 1:
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These are all zodiac signs - let's assign a unique letter to each sign:

bcaedd abaeaecd aa abaaad abceee debcbddd badcbdaecdad ceba debcbdcdae


Step 2:
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Each set of these is even in number of characters, and the title of the email (1313131313) suggested bigrams to me, so I split this into bigrams:

bc ae dd
ab ae ae cd
aa
ab aa ad
ab ce ee
de bc bd dd
ba dc bd ae cd ad
ce ba
de bc bd cd ae


Step 3:
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I treated these as a simple substitution code, say bc = A, ae = B, dd = C, and so forth arbitrarily:

ABC DBBE F DFG DHI JAKC LMKBEG HI JAKEB


Step 4:
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Do simple substitution on this - I found only one sentence that made sense, adding my own punctuation:

He's been a bad boy, this friend of thine.


Now - since I haven't been playing the game to this point I need to ask if this means anything to anyone?

Post away - and please, check my work, did I typo something? Thanks.

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QBKooky
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Nice work! Looks like it's referring to Josh and Alyssa... yknow. Doing... something... ! That's what Josh's urgent email was about, I guess. See this thread.
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Two more images were sent out.
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silverthistle
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I got josh.jpg and j0sh.jpg, but didn't get (or haven't gotten yet) jos4 or jo5h. Anyway, I can elaborate a little on the solve.

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Convert the symbols to letters with wingdings, split into groups of two, then aa = a, ab = b, ac = c, etc...


j0sh.jpg
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'havnt we all been from time to time'


jos4.jpg
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'for my infinite kage to forever confine'
Kage is not a typo on my part.


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'it wouldnt take much just a tug on a line'

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Crisko
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So it looks like we have a rhyme:

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He's been a bad boy, this friend of thine
Haven't we all been from time to time?
For my infinite kage to forever confine
It wouldn't take much just a tug on a line


Now where's the reason?

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QBKooky
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I'm going to send an encoded message back to the address, asking for more help... here's the key again, in clearer terms so dummies like me can understand it. Smile
Code:
   a  b  c  d  e
a  A  B  C  D  E
b  F  G  H  I  J
c  K  L  M  N  O
d  P  Q  R  S  T
e  U  V  W  X  Y

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Sin Vraal
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A new email for today

I got this new one today, posted here .

They don't appear to be the same as the last ones discussed, and the name of the thing translates to HELP.jpg

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Sin Vraal
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heh

QBKooky wrote:
I'm going to send an encoded message back to the address, asking for more help... here's the key again, in clearer terms so dummies like me can understand it. Smile
Code:
   a  b  c  d  e
a  A  B  C  D  E
b  F  G  H  I  J
c  K  L  M  N  O
d  P  Q  R  S  T
e  U  V  W  X  Y


The only "problem" with the way you posted this is that it's somewhat arbitrary - you need to provide which zodiac symbols stand for a, b, c, d, and e, in your vocabulary? (for instance, I believe Leo = b).

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schapin
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New picture mentioned above:
Sin Vraal and I translated the sentences along the borders to:

To err is human, to forgive divine,
ah infinity came beyond your space and time,
to repent for his sins, help me with mine mine,
follow along with the song and name this cursed shrine.

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As for the zodiac signs equalling which letter:

Cancer = a
Leo =b
Virgo = c
Libra = d
Scorpio = e

In case you're not familiar with the signs: http://www.astrology-online.com/persn.htm

But it's easier to just check wingding and type abcde Wink

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QBKooky
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The final solve on help.jpg is this:
To err is human, to forgive divine
To repent for his sins help me with mine mine
An infinite cage beyond your space and time
Follow along with the song and name this cursed shrine.


However, this still raises a lot of question. There's a big image in the center of help.jpg that looks like "|8|" rotated 45 decrees clockwise. Is this a symbol / shrine of some sort?

And what song? Two songs we have are the gunshot (thelastsong.wav) and, more plausibly, the sheet music for the Waltz along the Sieve that we haven't decoded yet.
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