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[ThaJinx]

[Clayfoot]

[INCyr]

[thebruce]

[krystyn]

The thing is, with spawn-camping, eventually that dude is gonna run out of ammo, or you'll get a lucky shot and hit the fuel cell on her Ghostie.

Time limits make this a frustrating boon, however, as ten seconds of spawn-die-spawn-get lucky can really make a difference with scoring.

[thebruce]

yeah, I think we need to separate into fair vs fair game...

flag pulling is fair game, though whether it's considered fair depends on who's playing... just as spawn camping is fair game, but whether it's fair depends on who's playing... for you and me (some people), if someone did that to my team, I might shout unfair instinctively, but then I'd think, well, eye for an eye, and use their strategy against them... hey, fair game... keep the level playing field... whether something is fair can change through a game. But as long as the level of 'fair-ness' remains in the realms of 'fair game', I don't think ultimately anything can be considered cheating, until it becomes something not everyone has the actual ability to do, such as the standby issue.

[Clayfoot]

Re: Pulling through the floor = cheating?

[Foz]

[Clayfoot]

[Clayfoot]

[thebruce]

[thunderclap8]

Re: Pulling through the floor = cheating?

[Twilight]

Just because something is possible to do, and both teams have equal opportunity, does not prevent it from being cheating. You can cork a baseball bat or load a boxing glove. Just because both boxers or both batters had the physical ability to do so, does not make it fit within the rules of the game.

[fugitivesoldier]

Keep in mind that even if Bungie doesn't declare a game exploit as a "cheat", they still will try to make a fix for it.

[Fenwicked]

I'd just like to point out that the whole "pulling stuff through stuff" thing is by no means a new concept. I frequently did it in Halo 1. In Chiron, you can easily pull the shotgun through the floor if you hold X and jump when you're under its spawn point. Quite funny too, when someone above is about to grab it and it suddenly disappears.

Another issue I'd like some feedback on, while we're discussing cheating. In split-screen games, people frequently accuse me of looking at their part of the screen. They see it as cheating, but I say it's just another skill to master. In a sense, it makes the game more difficult for me, since I have to watch not only my screen, but theirs as well. I say that everyone has an equal opportunity to do it, so it isn't cheating, but they argue that you're "not supposed" to do that.