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Tank8131 · Boot Joined: 03 Aug 2004 Posts: 53 Location: Illinois

and another thing....if you think this may be the work of a composer and want to find out....try sending the music to conductors of college orchestras or bands...they might know....

**Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:33 am

Daffy889

**Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:37 am

Quirk · Boot Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 49

has anyone paid any attention to the pattern of the keys BEFORE you put them over the numbers? There is definitely a pattern there, the only key that seems out of place is the very first one. Probably nothing, but for as long as this has been going with no solutions, we can't afford (the ones of us that paid for a shirt Wink

) to not finish this game!

**Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:11 pm

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Bold means a black key, italics in brackets means a greyed out number.

Original order: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 9, 12.

Final order: 5, 7, 1, 4, (9), 12, 11, 3, 6, 10, 8, (2.)
I put 2 in front of 1 in the first order because it is placed over the 1. Also, because it then works that 2 and 9 get greyed out in the second because they are the only two which are out of place in the first order.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:43 pm

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aznxasazn · Boot Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 62

Maybe it's just me, but I'm still thinking there has to be more to side 2 we are supposed to interpret for side 3. We never "used" the reverse 52 clue. Also, I presume the face 2 message means something other than getting you to fill in the field. If it does mean more, there are alot of holes in the story that we'd have to figure out..such as what material they are exactly talking about that Dale/Emily need, Tom sells (and so did Traci), and Rick uses to make something.

The only idea I can think of for "reverse 52" given what we now know is that it means "25" and the 25th card would be a queen. Thus, using the hint of "Keep yourself alive", "Queen", and GAGA it would seem we need to do something with Queen songs as alot of people have been suggesting.

**Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:04 pm

aznxasazn · Boot Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 62

**Posted:** Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:31 pm

Howdareyou

I was thinking about the original order this morning and pulled together this picture. It's the numbered boxes which correspond to the keys in the order (and overlap) that the keys are in at the beginning.

As for the 'reverse 52' clue and its relation to Queen, I think that we now have basically irrefutable evidence of a link. I'm not saying that it's absolutely true, but it three clues make it hard to debunk.

Maybe it means we have to use the solitaire cipher to solve the numbering?

OR: Do the lyrics to queen songs match up in any capacity to those numbers?

**Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:01 am

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aznxasazn · Boot Joined: 07 Nov 2004 Posts: 62

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Another idea: There is the tale of the Mary Queen of Scots cipher where she used a nomenclator. http://www.simonsingh.net/The_Black_Chamber/maryqueen.html
talks about it some. Perhaps the 3 digit codes are ascii for not just letters, but words as well? Of course that makes it a much more complicated code.
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**Posted:** Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:06 pm

fretty

I see you've discovered Simon Singh

**Posted:** Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:10 pm

Olorin

Queen, Gaga, Keep yourself alive...

...could 'Bohemian rhapsody' be the next item in the list?

Anyone tried to play that song on the cube?
(sorry, at work and busy...can't do that now)

However, it seems to me more and more that these clues we are collecting may not be used immediately, but may become useful at some later stage.
Thus, this face of the cube might be solved without using Queen, gaga, keep yourself alive, or any such clue.

F.O.R.

**Posted:** Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:35 pm

am520dj

i dont think anyone mentioned this, but if you move the keys from their starting places down one, they stay there. this could be unintentional, but you never know.

edit: i also have a feeling that after putting the keys back in the right place, theres nothing more to do on the side, we just have to figure out what number(s) to put in side 4.

am520dj

**Posted:** Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:08 pm

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Olorin

**Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:17 am

fretty

But the site doesn't mension face 6's status, nor that it has even been unlocked so it could be possible that we have solved face 3 but it hasn't registered yet.

**Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:22 am

Leo

Arranging the notes in the correct order was one of the first (and easiest) puzzles to be solved. If that's all there was to side 3, I'm sure they would have flagged it as solved by now.

I still believe that there is more to be learned from side 2 to solve this puzzle.

**Posted:** Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:30 pm

zaeil · Decorated Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 233 Location: NC, US

Got a clue, folks. Posted details here. But it seems that we're on the right track, at least. Very Happy

**Posted:** Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:10 pm