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JoeUser
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[UPDATE] 1/19 - New email Just got this:
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:59 -0800
Subject: A subject of interest to us both
To: xxxxxx
From: charon@chaoseed.com
I'm curious to see what our hacker friend is up to.
Unfortunately, he seems to have mixed up some of the
letters when he was "influencing" our webpage names way back.
I think it would be productive to consider ALL
the webpage names. Some are obvious words or numbers...
some are not.
c
For random letters, we have:
gi a in esh am lg na
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:52 pm
rowan
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Okay, for random letter webpages we have
Quote:
esh gi lg n na a am in
Here are the names of the rest of the pages:
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dwlogin.php castor.htm door_to.php notugg.htm element0.htm yturbans.htm ydragon.php glyph0.htm life0.htm
daemon0.png log0.txt wunder0.mp3 archives.htm pollux.htm nocigar.htm singles0.htm 4.htm persimmo.htm thebox.htm 6by4.php
I can understand why the four Idunn pages (yturbans, ydragon, glyph, life) are named the way they are, but some of the rest of them (persimmo, notugg, singles, 4, castor, pollux) do seem a bit random. Not that I can figure out what charon and/or simon are talking about. (Oh, on a side note, my message to Simon got bounced back to me. Was anyone else able to email him sucessfully?)
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:43 pm
rowan
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Because I have nothing better do to, I ran the extra letters through an anagram generator.
I think I might have found Simon's real name: "I'm Helga Anna Sing". I think Helga is a much better name for him than Simon
On a more serious note, I found a few phrases that weren't total gibberish, but I nothing jumped out at me. The more notable ones are:
A glim shenanigan
A hangman singing
I hang a signalman
A meaning lashing
Enigma hangnails
An enigma lashing
It is interesting that you can get engima out of the extra letters. But of course, it might just be a coincidence.
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:09 pm
Gestas
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rowan72 wrote:
A glim shenanigan
A hangman singing
I hang a signalman
A meaning lashing
Enigma hangnails
An enigma lashing
You can also get names out of the letters. Rearrange the letter groups, and without having to use an anagram generator you get:
gi lg am esh = gilgamesh. (plus a, in, na)
(Just pointing out that anagram generators don't always have all the combinations you need)
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:25 pm
rowan
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Gestas wrote:
You can also get names out of the letters. Rearrange the letter groups, and without having to use an anagram generator you get:
gi lg am esh = gilgamesh. (plus a, in, na)
(Just pointing out that anagram generators don't always have all the combinations you need)
You're a freaking genius.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
using gilgamesh:
title: xlinsyvricfikmrw
Then three codes which turn up as little boxes:
𐎆
𐎛
𐎍
Btw, yeah, I know anagram generators don't always work the way you want them - but as I totally suck at anagrams, it sometimes gives me the push I need (or maybe the push that someone else needs).
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:30 pm
JoeUser
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Yay!
OK, quickly looking up those hex codes, I found them in a Unicode table (they aren't showing up rendered in my browser though):
10386: UGARITIC LETTER WO
1039B: UGARITIC LETTER I
1038D: UGARITIC LETTER LAMDA
I've also found the code testing for Unicode support in browsers, which apparently mine doesn't have.
To figure out what we're supposed to be seeing, you can look at:
http://www.crystalinks.com/ugaritic.html
Oh, and the title:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
ROT-22 to thejourneybegins
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:47 pm
rowan
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I also found a slightly different version of the unicode characters. I've pasted the two versions into a gif to make it a bit easier for us to see what's going on.
edit cuz i can't spell
Description
ugaritic unicode characters
Filesize
3.73KB
Viewed
858 Time(s)
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:43 pm
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Daedalus-XIII
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gi lg am esh = gilgamesh. (plus a, in, na)
Rest would give us Inana (A Goddess from the Gilgamesh Epic)
Inserting this into door leads to notugg
Try the spelling Inanna instead. Leads to:
http://daemon.chaoseed.com/inanna.htm
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Inside source:
qavcksizwcvlivlnqoczmlwcbbpibbpmzmqawvtgwvmsmgewzlwvbpqaxiom
which rots to:
isnuckaroundandfiguredoutthatthereisonlyonekeywordonthispage
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:53 pm
Daedalus-XIII
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Some maybe helpful or maybe worthless infos
Inanna (or Innin) is the sumerian/babylonian goddess of heavens and fertility. In the Gilgamesh-Epic she goes by the name Ishtar, which is her akkadian/mesopotamian name. In the Epic she loses her heart to Gilgamesh, but he rejects her and reproaches her with her behaviour towards her former lovers. After this she makes Anu release the "Bull of Heaven" Guanna, for this creature shall destroy the city Uruk (Erech) and kill it's king Gilgamesch. But he manages, with help of Enkidu, to kill the Bull.
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:23 pm
vidstudent
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Riddle solved.
Quote:
People the world over search for them every day
From desperate strugglers to the truly powerful
You cannot touch it, taste it, smell it, feel it or hear it
But if you have one, it can change your life
(or sit neglected and forgotten)
It can turn upside down every aspect of human experience
For good or evil, always to something new
(unless there was one just like it years ago)
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
New keyword: idea
Page title: jyvxliv
ROT-22 (apparently, Simon's number is four): further
Text: It is yours, but you do not use it as often as others.
Ask and I shall give you one of mine.
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:37 pm
Last edited by vidstudent on Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
JoeUser
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Here's this one:
Quote:
It is yours, but you do not use it as often as others.
Ask and I shall give you one of mine.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
name
Title: jyvxlivwxmpp
It means "one who hears".
One from history is famous for just that, a humbled witness.
But I hear many other things, things my namesake would deny...
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:42 pm
Daedalus-XIII
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Quote:
It means "one who hears"
One from history is famous for just that, a humbled witness.
In Hebrew the name "Simone", with some interpretation "Simon" or "Simeon" (more exactly translated: "he who hears")
Referred to as "Humbled Witness": Simon Peter
But too late at night now for the rest of it:
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But I hear many other things, things my namesake would deny...
Btw. though I think already noted somewhere....simon leads to jan termin page...must be more to this riddle, I think.
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:20 pm
vidstudent
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The only thing that comes to mind: Simon Peter denied being a disciple of Christ three times, after which the rooster crowed.
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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:37 pm
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