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petesmall
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Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 6

all, have been reading through the forum (wish I had found it sooner) and there is a lot of useful info here - cheers.

i have been down a lot of these paths already and come up short of answers but thought someone else might have the time and patience to prove them in or out while we wait for more movement.

1. friendsreunited
Jon has an account here, but not with his standard email address. I have so far tried jon, jharker and jonharker @ hwau, thr and the bazookas (expanded properly). The only email address I found that has been mentioned here which does work is the one in this thread (twinpicklesSPLATonetel.net.uk) but I do NOT think this is an ingame email address and I don't wanna try and get into this account in case.

If we find the email address, maybe it is in use. If we can find the password as well maybe this is where he left the 'call' - on his own voice messages. (As an aside, it would also be fun to see the volume of messages from players that I assume are there).

2. S+S logins seem to be based on the details you enter and are not random. This means that we could probably work out what Jon chose (in case any of it helps - maybe could increase your worth slightly). I have started to go through the options with different email accounts, but it takes a long time as I dont know if email address is part of the login or not and you have to wait till midnight for the new login. It may also allow us to work out Dennis Horens account details (but I am unsure if these will ever be useful).

3. The guestbook entry which has been translated into the phrase "all is not seems" isn't grammatically correct (obviously), but the rest of the message does appear to be, other than the c's/e's bit. I have been wondering if this is an indication that parts of the message are missing (maybe several words) and maybe this is why it is out of line as well. It may even be plausible that the crc is correct and the extra words/letters make these make sense as part of another word.

Of course, all this time on my own may have just sent me over the edge!!!

happy hunting
pete

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Eddie Nichols
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Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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Location: Toronto, Canada

If S&S Login's aren't random, then...

Just a thought: assuming that your unique S&S Login isn't random, then what are the weight factors behind giving you your Login? You fill out a brief questionnaire, with Name and Email, including 4 questions: 1) "most worthy quality" (5), 2) "desire most in your natural life" (7), 3) "desire most in your unnatural life" (7), and 4) "discovery" of Sable & Shuck (5) (the numbers in () represent the number of choices available in the respective pull-down menu - add 1 if including "Please select"). This means a possible (5*7*7*5 = ) 1225 "unique" Login's (or 2304 if including "Please select"). Either way, this is not enough for all players involved. Meaning, the login must also depend on outside factors such as Name and Email (or IP address?). If this is the case, then perhaps we can crack more from the S&S Login, possibly even for people such as Den Horen, etc.

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freaky_janis
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Joined: 27 Dec 2004
Posts: 68
Location: Ridderkerk - The Netherlands

I suggest we all share the S+S User ID - maybe someone smart can try to figure out how the ID's are build. So if you're smart and very good in cracking these kind of codes, please post your e-mailadress. I've already got 4 S+S User ID's and I'll send all of them to you, incl the e-mailadresses involved. Maybe there are more gamers willing to share, and sending an e-mail to 1 is safer then posting an ID to 1000's.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:27 pm
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Nadif
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Joined: 20 Jan 2005
Posts: 318
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I just sent you my login via private message on this forum.
No need to hurry to reply; however, I'll be there waiting 'til dawn so... Wink

M.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:16 pm
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Eddie Nichols
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Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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Location: Toronto, Canada

S&S Login

I have also sent my login. I will also try a bit of cracking, although I have not the most "beautiful mind".

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:46 pm
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Nadif
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Janis isnt' online any more I guess (sleeping now and waking up before dawn I suppose); anyway, I sent my login via PM to you. Please do the same if you feel like it.

M.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:06 pm
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freaky_janis
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Joined: 27 Dec 2004
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Hey guys, I'm not into al the decoding kind of things, but you can ofcourse send the User ID's to me, no problem. I'll make a beautiful schedule out of the IDs I receive incl all further (detailed) info - so if you for instance remember the answers to the questions - please include them. Every relevant info is wanted.

They are in good hands with me, I won't do anything like try to login in with an ID that isn't mine.

As soon as I collect 20 logins - have got 6 already - I'll post a new message to find someone that wants to take a look at the ID's.

Going to make some coffee now... Good luck!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:34 am
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Nadif
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Got plenty of coffee so far. It's 4.43 AM here, 10 minutes to down in London.

About the logins, 6 is already a good number to work on. As I told you in my private message, let me know. Let's see if there's something interesting in their structure.

M.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:47 am
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WierdoGuest
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IDs are random

I'm sorry to say, but I'm sure the ids are random generated, and stored together with your email address. When you receive mail from S&S or Jon or PT, the last line tells you how to remove your subscription. On that line it reads something like (in the PT case) http://www.pathwaytravel.com/unsubscribe.php?sid=7&uid=......

The sid=>7 means pathwaytravel (sid=1 means S&S, 9=helpmefindjon, 2=H*, 3=HWAU)
The uid is your unique 16byte useridin hex notation. If you reverse the first 8 characters of the userid you'll find the login code for S&S. The uids used are the same on all sites.

Since the id is given on subscription (on PT / HMFJ / HWAU n or wherever) , it can have nothing to do with results of the test., nor with the answers provided at subscribing to S&S.

Sorry to spoil the search. But you can better spend it on other items.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:53 am
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freaky_janis
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Am I wrong or is it still 23 minutes till dawn?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:28 am
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Nadif
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Janis, you're correct. I was so impatient that I was waiting for "it" an hour before the right time... Coffee

M.

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Meak
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about 15 minutes now

nothings happened...yet

PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:42 am
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Valfreya
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freaky_janis wrote:
Am I wrong or is it still 23 minutes till dawn?


Guess it depends on where you are.

If Jon is the "loved one" it might not be dawn where he's hiding yet... Idunno... this is so frustrating!

Bang Head
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MissChelle
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Slow

Is it just me, or is everything on the site acting up. Like, being slow and stuff. I just wanna see something new sooo bad!
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SuperJerms
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Maybe you could just put the codes in a new page on the wiki? It's community editable, so anyone can add thier code. Makes for a good place to discuss theories or post what we find out while cracking too. No middleman, either!

check my sig for the linky
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