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StarkRavingMad
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 		EMAIL: Klepsydra Staff re Bare Tree Picture
I emailed the staff at Klepsydra regarding the Bare Tree picture that was done by a "resident."

I got the following:

Quote:

Dear Mr./Ms. Mad,

Sorry about the salutation, but the proper title wasn't obvious from your e-
mail.

Many people have been curious about that picture. I have requested more
information from our IS department, but I haven't heard back yet. Hopefully we
will get some information soon.

Thanks for your interest,
Katherine Barrant
Communications Officer


I sent back:

Quote:
The name is Arturo, so I suppose I am a Mr.! Sorry about the
strange screen name, a friend of mine set up this email account for me
knowing my unfamiliarity with computers, and he made that my name as a
little joke. You see, I am an art collector and I tend to specialize in
art created by those with certain particular disorders. Sometimes, the
disordered mind may show artistic truth. At any rate, I suppose I should
change the blasted name thing, but I can barely send an email, much less
figure out how to change anything and still have it work!

Anyway, I thank you for your time, and if any additional information
comes up regarding that picture, please contact me.

--Arturo


We'll see if any more info about the picture comes up.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:47 pm
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StarkRavingMad
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 		After seeing the trunk newsletter and the picture, I suspect the artist in Klepsydra may have been Sarah Wyatt. Maybe she ended up in there when she "disappeared."

At any rate, I heard from them again today:

Quote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 07:33:41 -0800, staffSPLATklepsydra.net said:
> Dear Mr. DeLeon,
>
> I got some more information about The Bare Tree, but unfortunately, it
> wasn't
> much. It was done by a former patient, but due to confidentiality
> concerns,
> that's all I can tell you. Well, actually, that's all they told me, so
> now you
> know everything I do. There has been quite a bit of interest in the
> picture,
> so I hope that the artist will come forward on his/her own and get the
> credit
> that he or she so richly deserves.
>
> Thanks for your interest,
> Katherine Barrant
> Communications Officer


Sticking with Arturo the crazy South American art collector, I went with:

Quote:

Ms. Barratt:

Interesting. Is there someone I could contact at Klepsydra -- the "they" that told you -- to get more information? (Things that wouldn't violate your confidentiality provisions, such as the time period when that painting was done). I have my own idea as to whom the artist is, but unfortunately, no way to get in contact. Perhaps if I emailed whoever gave you your information and told that I was strictly an art collector and had no concerns other than properly identifying and perhaps obtaining that particular painting, they would be more forthcoming?

Obviously, in my line of work, it doesn't pay to interfere with ANYONE'S confidentiality. If I do so, word gets around and I never get these fascinating and enlightening bits of artwork again. So, I can assure you that all my communications are in the utmost confidence!

If there is anyone at your facility I could contact directly, please let me know, as surely there must be something they could tell me without violating confidentiality. After all, if I cannot contact the artist, I cannot give them an offer on the painting at all...and everybody likes money, verdad?

I remain,
Arturo



PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 12:15 pm
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Kris
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 		Contacts regarding "Bare Tree" at Klepsydra
I have had similar contacts with Klepsydra in this matter (se e-mails below). I have also written to Dale, to see if he has any information on the painter (maybe HE is the artist?), or if the tree strikes him as familiar (I've put that same last question to Wes at EOTW, but not received any answer yet).

/ Kris

--- ooo ---

Dear Mrs. Barrant,

Thank you for your swift reply. I would very much like the opportunity to visit the Princeton facility. However, it would be difficult at the moment, as I am currently traveling abroad. I might be able to have one of my junior curators have a stop by any of these days.

Would it be too much to ask you if you could provide me with names of artists who in fact have chosen not to remain anonymous, preferably former patients? I'm particularily interested in mystical themes, paintings feauturing deformed or otherwise altered humans, plants or trees, or maybe containing cryptical messages.

Once again, I thank you for your time into this matter,

Sal Las

--- original message ---

From: staffSPLATklepsydra.net
To: sal las
Subject: Re: Resident paintings at Klepsydra
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 08:43:43 -0800

Dear Mr. Las,

Unfortunately, due to confidentiality concerns, all I can tell you is that the piece was done by a former patient. We have a number of pieces displayed in our Princeton facility, some of which have the artist identified. If it is possible for you to come visit us, perhaps there might be some pieces we have where the artist has chosen not to remain anonymous that would be right for your exhibition.

Thanks for your interest,
Katherine Barrant
Communications Officer


Quoting sal las :

To whom it may concern at Klepsydra:

My name is Sal Las, and I am an arts dealer. I am currently working on an exhibition due to open its doors to the public in early May. The theme of the exhibition is "Sane creations in the insane", and draws on the many examples of fine art created by the mentally unhealthy. The exhibition brings famous and non-famous artists together in an explosive mix.

In an effort to complete the exhibition with contemporary art, I have contacted quite a few mental facilities, inquiering about patients and paintings. The act of painting is often used in therapy sessions, and I have been fortunate in recieving some very interesting contributions to the exhibition.

On visiting your web site, I noticed an interesting piece of work, artist unknown. The title read "The Bare Tree". Would it be possible for you to provide me with the name of the painter? I would much like to include his work in the exhibition, and any other work he or other patients may have concluded during their stay at Klepsydra.

Thank you for your time,

Yours truly,

Sal Las
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 8:52 am
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Kris
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 		Re: Contacts regarding "Bare Tree" at Klepsydra
Kris wrote:
I have also written to Dale, to see if he has any information on the painter (maybe HE is the artist?), or if the tree strikes him as familiar (I've put that same last question to Wes at EOTW, but not received any answer yet).


Recieved an answer from Wes (below).

From: eotwSPLATaglauranj.org
To: Sal Las (celarus2002SPLATyahoo.com)
Subject: Re: Oddly shaped scrub pine
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 17:18:01 -0400

Hey Sal:

I honestly don't remember if the tree I found the disc under looked like the picture you sent or not. I've actually gone back out to the area to try and find the tree again but can't seem to locate it, which is very strange since I probably know these local Barrens better than anyone. And unfortunately, all I had from the find was a home movie clip I shot of finding it, a clip that's on a VHS-C tape that I gave to Dale. He was going to transfer it into a format that he could put up on the web. He was actually quite mad that I sold the damn thing before he could actually look at it but he couldn't say anything when I told him how much money that guy offered for it.

I honestly don't know if the tape was in Dale's house when the fire ocurred or if he might have taken to his office where he has a lot of hos work computers and stuff. If he took it there it may be OK yet. There's also the chance he has it on him, because both Sam and I really think he's OK. They didn't find any bodies in the rubble of his house so we're hoping he either wasn't there or got away.

One more unusual thing, the guy who bought the disc from me sent me an e-mail today asking if I would buy it back from him. His message sounded really freaked out or something, saying he didn't know what he was getting into. Weird, huh? The bad thing is, there's no way I can afford to give him back what he paid me for it. I haven't responded to him yet; I was hoping to talk to Dale about it and find out why he thought it was so freaking important before I made any decisions.

Wes Keeler

--- ooo ---

Quoting sal las (celarus2002SPLATyahoo.com)

Dear Wes, Thank your for your newsletter; most stimulating reading, indeed! Odd things do seem to happen a lot lately, not the least when it comes to our mutual friend Dale Sprague. We are a couple of people trying to help him in the best way we can, and I'm sure that soon enought things will starten to brighten up for him.

Well, from one thing to another: did that oddly shaped scrub pine, (under which you found the disc during the devil hunt 2) look anything like the enclosed picture? If so, please let me know, so we can exchange some ideas.

Yours,
Sal Las
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 9:48 am
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Kris
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 		Dale's reply regarding painting at Klepsydra
Kris wrote:
I have also written to Dale, to see if he has any information on the painter (maybe HE is the artist?), or if the tree strikes him as familiar (I've put that same last question to Wes at EOTW, but not received any answer yet).


Received an answer from Dale in an e-mail dated 11 april (same e-mail as others received, with minor ajustments). It's not Dale's painting, neither does he know who the artist is.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:03 am
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Kris
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 		Re: Contacts regarding "Bare Tree" at Klepsydra
Kris wrote:
I have had similar contacts with Klepsydra in this matter (se e-mail below).

--- ooo ---

Dear Mrs. Barrant,

Thank you for your swift reply. I would very much like the opportunity to visit the Princeton facility. However, it would be difficult at the moment, as I am currently traveling abroad. I might be able to have one of my junior curators have a stop by any of these days.

Would it be too much to ask you if you could provide me with names of artists who in fact have chosen not to remain anonymous, preferably former patients? I'm particularily interested in mystical themes, paintings feauturing deformed or otherwise altered humans, plants or trees, or maybe containing cryptical messages.

Once again, I thank you for your time into this matter,

Sal Las


Well, who would have thought I'd recieve a reply almost three (!) months later? Surprised Let's see if the painter makes contact through the new page at Klepsydra (http://www.klepsydra.net/picture.htm).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:47 pm
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phensley
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 		This is the email that inspired me to post the flyer. I thought MAYBE I would hear from someone. As to date I have heard from nobody.

Received May 29, 2003
Dear Ms. Hensley,

If you wish to e-mail me a flyer, I will print it out and put it up
next to the
painting. I should warn you that most of our pieces were done by
patients who
have been discharged for a long time, and that they may not necessarily
be
visiting the Klepsydra facility, so the artist still may not see it. I
admire
your persistence, however!

Sincerely,
Katherine Barrant
Communications Officer

Who would have thought months later my flier would result in a section on klepsydra.

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