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JoeUser
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[EMAIL] 1/27

OK, new email from simon:
Quote:
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:39 -0800
Subject: Propagation
To: xxxxx
From: simon@chaoseed.com

I heard from one of the staff that you players have a tendency to
stop thinking about a puzzle after it's solved...
even if the solution is incorrect. But I didn't
realize how frustrating it would be.

Once upon a time, a girl wanted to go to a ball,
but her evil family members gave her
impossible chores to accomplish.
Little did they know she had help from forest creatures
who would enact her vengeance.

Yrx jisjck ifv affrudelaoq, gf cgm nrw?
Gyl lojhklwj mb *qrqw* sng wyi *fstlre* M klugb,
zj qgu wulpq oaqw *zrxg*, aqg wmfv tkh imyzt lgve...
sf ighr cgm hdyv rgl eqffyfleuhu cwl iq rlv datwov tjgjhfkw, tmt rqv
azack vysmdd qrk fw lor xejseiolrv lg yrx...
rpd qox qviv as d ozxlde hqvvyq tr izrv lhh uzkzl mdjzg ogrgv.


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keyword "cinderella" works, but it doesn't seem right:
Title:gmrhivippe (ROT-22 cinderella)
Yes...but no.

It also has a weird music thing.


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JoeUser
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The garbled part:
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Another Vigenere, keyword "address"
You seach for information, do you not?
Put together my *name* and the *nation* I study,
if you truly want *info*, and find the right idea...
an idea you have not encountered yet in our little projects, but one
which should not be too unfamiliar to you...
all you need is a little energy to find the right magic words.


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Re: [EMAIL] 1/27

Quote:

I heard from one of the staff that you players have a tendency to
stop thinking about a puzzle after it's solved...
even if the solution is incorrect. But I didn't
realize how frustrating it would be.


Well maybe if the answers weren't so bizarre... Very Happy

Well, to me the original fairy tale he told us had overtones of rumplestiltskin - getting someone else to do an impossible task - but that doesn't work as a keyword. There was another tale on the Grimm page you gave before called "The True Sweethearts" that's also similiar - but that's it.
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OK, so he says:
Quote:
an idea you have not encountered yet in our little projects, but one
which should not be too unfamiliar to you...
all you need is a little energy to find the right magic words.

which is the same thing at the bottom of the story, and they're both Vigenere ciphers.

I've been trying to think how to put together his "*name*" and the "*nation*" to get "*info*".

simon
sumer

Using Vigenere to encrypt with one of those as the keyword and the other as plaintext gives KCYSE, but that's not very helpful. And I'm not sure how *info* fits into it.

Edit: oh, if you use sumeria as the plaintext and simon as tne key to encrypt, it's KCYSEAI.

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Quote:
You seach for information, do you not?
Put together my *name* and the *nation* I study,
if you truly want *info*, and find the right idea...


I tried doing a search on Simon and Sumeria. The first result to come up was The Complete Simon Necronomicon Online in Two Parts (although you can only see it in a cache copy). Using Simon and Sumer I get a different hit for Simon's Necronomicon (again you can only see it in a cache). Still trying to see if any of these give me hits on a keyword.
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Hey, something!
After doing some searches, I found another story:
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Psyche and Eros: Psyche had to do a bunch of stuff for Aphrodite and was helped by animals.
New keyword: psyche


New page:
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Title: twcgli (ROT-22 of psyche)
Are all stories merely reflections of earlier tales?
If we go back far enough, do we come to the one true story?
Isn't that what Campbell and Jung said?
WWHPLD?


What would Lovecraft do?

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OK, I'm not having any luck on the search for the story.

What Jung and Campbell talked about was that there were commonalities in all myths (Jung's collective unconscious and archetypes). Campbell compared myths from different cultures and found parallels.

Campbell also believed in the "monomyth," the "one true story" that all myths are based on.

I don't know what we're supposed to be looking for though! The story of Cinderella and Psyche both fit the story pattern described, and I've tried going backwards to find earlier Cinderella-type stories.

Rhodopis from Egypt, Yeh-Shen from China, but no new keys.

I'm also not sure how Lovecraft fits in with this either.

Any ideas? I appear to be stuck at the moment.

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I can make a guess at what they're asking for, but Google isn't helping me (and I don't know nearly enough about Mr. Lovecraft's works).

Think about it this way: If all stories are based on one story, then there are many, many different ways of doing it. The question thereupon posed is, "What would H.P. Lovecraft's version of a Cinderella story be?"

...the closest I can get is some Call of Cthulhu supplement entitled, "Dreamworks", and I can't get any farther than that. (I can't even find the Cinderella quote mentioned by the Google link.)
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As I'm into Lovecraft and the Call of Cthulhu-RPG a bit deeper, I can maybe give you some info. The Dreamlands are a plane of existence, that you visit in your dreams. A "clone" of you lives there, and as soon as you dream, you slip into this other "life". When you wake up, you live your own life here, while your dream-self follows it's own ways in the Plane of Dreams.
The most famous story about this is "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath". The setting of this world is a kind of twisted medieval and pre-medieval world. Unforutnately, don't have any idea though, where there's a story with a Cinderella-theme.

There is some RPG-Supplement for CoC named "Die Froschkönig-Fragmente" (The Frog King Fragments) but it seems, it has been published only in German. This Adventure is based on the stories of Grimm-brothers and not based on anything HPL wrote. But never played or bought this one.

Lovecraft was fascinated and influenced mostly by the Grimm fairy tales, E.A. Poe, 1001 Nights and Jules Verne, but I think I never read any story that would fit the cinderella-scheme. The one that comes next to this may be "The Dunwich Horror"

Here's a very good compilation of Lovecraft and mythos-related subjects:
http://www.hplovecraft.com/creation/
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I've also found reference to a poem called "Cindy: Scrub Lady in a State Street Skyscraper" which sounds like it could be a Cinderella reference, but I haven't been able to find the text for it (and couldn't get any keywords out of just the title).
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