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Sunny du Pree
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 		Spec regarding the Graffiti Rings
I was talking with Myssfitz (mooo moo moooo moo moooooo!)
and she had mentioned after reading one of Titanias poems that she didnt realise that there was magic within the circle of Stones. That got me to thinking about how I read in Stephen Kings Dark Tower series that the charecters had to deal with a demon in that was trapped in a stone circle.
Of course that is a work of fiction but I realised of course that the graffiti( as we know) circles Aglaura. I spec that Aglaura is the magic Stone Circle and that spirits or people are trapped there.
And that it will take some kind of spell or action to lift the magic.
I spec that the manuscripts may lead us to the action that may be connected to the mask and the wand and the groups that want them.
I hope hell doesnt break loose! lelellelelel
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 		Re: Spec regarding the Graffiti Rings
Sunny du Pree wrote:
I was talking with Myssfitz (mooo moo moooo moo moooooo!)
and she had mentioned ...
And that it will take some kind of spell or action to lift the magic.
I spec that the manuscripts may lead us to the action that may be connected to the mask and the wand and the groups that want them.
I hope hell doesnt break loose! lelellelelel


From what is visible of the two pages listing the fourth book, the latin that is visible works out to be something in latin along the lines of:(please keep in mind that I am no scholar in latin this was taken straight off latin grammar pages from several sources):

Title: "Wish Hunt" (or hunting wish, wishing hunt)
first line: last word: "university" (or universe)
next linel ast two words: "within" (or among) and "beyond"
next line last word: "living"
last line first word: "each" (or every) [the next word has a part of the first letter covered and is either pabula or fabula, pabula means "elemental food" and fabula means "story"] partially convered word (-rsus) the last word on the line is "within" (or among)

I have listed the meanings of the planetary symbology elsewhere in this forum. (I'll look for it when I get home from work.)
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 		Re: Spec regarding the Graffiti Rings
Magesteff wrote:

I have listed the meanings of the planetary symbology elsewhere in this forum. (I'll look for it when I get home from work.)


I had them listed in early June. I also had this posted in April:

The picture at http://www.missingmanuscript.com/picturepage4.html looks like angel names and planetis I am assuming is for planets. I did a search and found the site below. The letter about Trithemius is 4 pages long (including an "advertisement" from the author) and it seems to "translate" the picturepage4 from www.missingmanuscript.com. It explains what to do to cast a spell(?) or invoke a spirit(s) and when to do it. The timing has to be precise.

The site below is only part of "The Magus" by Francis Barrett
"The Magus is one of the primary sources for the study of ceremonial magic, and for a long time was one of the rarest and most sought after of the 19th century grimoires. Barretts' magnum opus embodies deep knowledge of Alchemy, Astrology, and the Kabbalah, and has been cited by the Golden Dawn and other occult and esoteric movements as source material. Written in 1801 in the middle of the 'Age of Reason', sandwiched between Newton and Darwin, this was possibly the last epoch that a work like this could be composed. "

www.sacred-texts.com/grim/magus/ma251.htm

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The gold signs in the red "shapes" on this page are the symbols for some of the planets, the sun, and the moon. 1. is top center, 2 is top left, 3 is middle left and 4 is bottom left, 5 is top right etc. They have other meanings too. Each symbol links to their respective pages. Also, some of the symbols have Angels or Archangels associated with them, but not all of them. (I checked this because of the angels on either side of the top center symbol).

1. Saturn I know this isn't exact, but it's the closest I could find.
2. Venus
3. Jupiter
4. Mercury
5. Mars
6. Moon (as a new moon) On the manuscript page, the moon is colored in. I haven't found one colored in facing the same direction yet.
7. Associated with 7a and with the idea of the sun as a center, and as a source of light and energy
7a. Sun

**#7 looks like the "true" symbol on the manuscript page, but #7a gives another, similar meaning.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10798#10798
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 		Re: Spec regarding the Graffiti Rings
[quote=Myssfitz]
I had a spec listed in early June. ...
......

The picture at http://www.missingmanuscript.com/picturepage4.html looks like angel names and planetis I am assuming is for planets.

The site below is only part of "The Magus" by Francis Barrett
"The Magus is one of the primary sources for the study of ceremonial magic, and for a long time was one of the rarest and most sought after of the 19th century grimoires. Barretts' magnum opus embodies deep knowledge of Alchemy, Astrology, and the Kabbalah, and has been cited by the Golden Dawn and other occult and esoteric movements as source material. Written in 1801 in the middle of the 'Age of Reason', sandwiched between Newton and Darwin, this was possibly the last epoch that a work like this could be composed. "

www.sacred-texts.com/grim/magus/ma251.htm

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I have also posted about this before, on June 25:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=11785#11785

[url] http://www.seds.org/nineplanets/nineplanets/sol.html[/url]
There are also associated pages for the other symbols.
The symbols on the missingmanuscript page exactly match the symbols on this particular site and associated pages.

Top middle border symbol symbol: Saturn (Cronius, Cronos)

Left side border: top to bottom
left top: Venus (Aphrodite, Love)
left middle: Jupiter (Zeus, son of Cronos, deposed dear ol'dad)
left bottom: Mercury (Hermes, messenger)

Right side top to bottom
RT: Mars (War, Ares)
RM: Luna (Moon, Diana)
RB: Sol (Sun)

(Hang on while I close all the open windows I have going now, Laughing )

Well, I don't know if we can do much until we see the rest of the page and get at the rest of the words on it.

I'm also trying to find a language or symbology that matches the other page, but so far not much luck but have been close a time of two.
http://www.missingmanuscript.com/picturepage11.html
It is very similar to two assirian/jewish/egyptian languages, but there is always one element that is off by enough and not part of a "blend" of letters as far as I can tell, but then I'm no linguist.


I also noticed on
http://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/magus/ma251.htm
one of the symbols was a maltese cross, much like the symbol SOD uses on the web page.
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 		Planetary Numbers...
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos238.htm

[quote] The planets are numbered thus:


Saturn 3 Venus 7
Jupiter 4 Mercury 8
Mars 5 Moon 9
Sun 6


Quote:


Amazing... that just matches the symbol names on
http://www.missingmanuscript.com/picturepage14.html

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