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Varin
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Caterpillar wrote:
This is just coinkydink right?


Well, that story isn't on the mainpage, just the fuschia version.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:12 pm
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rose
...and then Magic happens


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 		ok
Good job on fuschia !

Now, as to the story, "RTM" possibly means Roadside Ticket Machine.

And doesn't this sound like a sweet little Sleeping Princess story. Very Happy

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hungrygaijin
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 		Well RTM is also the airport code for Rotterdam...amongst other things.

Also while I'm throwing out spec..."Play with(out) prejudice" is a chess term, is it not?
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ustice
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Location: Gainesville, FL

 		On this page, in the source you get:

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tlhiEfSeEeCARSEItEoRfFtOhYeOrUeJdUhSeTRIRGINNOGRIESIhTeIrFeYtOoUmCaAkNe
dSyHJGsCgKrEhsSyifugfzhOfsjobrvhdrzobcIplhwubohzfoGubizgyoujwrgoeoreZ>W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frhoBdxiZSmGvfbSkaZlSdJjDsHgLhFdGfagWcHXGmEZTxUnOvqZWmycExovTzymrSWdEVj
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EJwrTToHrPhIbUcSXWZOKENrVYJuDIGWsqLEHyyTDjrFTsKbJvHmEcpxJNKbhzTmJBGkELL
LffbGLssAdYjHhpgilqaahtyyTQiwWEEryYTUpiIFqgWXEcYzRHUbDiSzGcHmMVxbCsbdNn
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IkqbYDtguHilysgjJHkyFgJfLisuhWJRlyhEdpaQjIkYgTfUbIMWrEBRmHVGnJZKcLXdnFv
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XSpacdeljjXajSkhlahgzdlhijhcfxozdvuMqcpbTMiNwVeGiKrDYFwLuAoJtHoSIDufLtj
>ScjUdEgYhRxPCQVWZYCUMEXQZOBUVTMRXYBUkOvRjTgYhHdSjDlJslashgokuawDeFyGoL


Only a small part of this is solved:

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The first line of this can be decoded by removing every other letter:

tlhiEfSeEeCARSEItEoRfFtOhYeOrUeJdUhSeTRIRGINNOGRIESIhTeIrFeYtOoUmCaAkNe

thE SECREt of the red heRRING IS here to make
life eASIER FO YOU JUST IGNORE IT IF YOU CAN

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:23 pm
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Alzheimers
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 		There's also this difference:

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There are a couple javascript snippets that aren't in the main DeadDrop.us page:

<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function SymError()
{
return true;
}
window.onerror = SymError;
var SymRealWinOpen = window.open;
function SymWinOpen(url, name, attributes)
{
return (new Object());
}
window.open = SymWinOpen;
//-->
</script>

<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
var SymRealOnLoad;
var SymRealOnUnload;
function SymOnUnload()
{
window.open = SymWinOpen;
if(SymRealOnUnload != null)
SymRealOnUnload();
}
function SymOnLoad()
{
if(SymRealOnLoad != null)
SymRealOnLoad();
window.open = SymRealWinOpen;
SymRealOnUnload = window.onunload;
window.onunload = SymOnUnload;
}
SymRealOnLoad = window.onload;
window.onload = SymOnLoad;
//-->
</script>

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dmon_man
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 		..hand in glove, the sun shines out of our behinds....
Whoa, whoa....fuchsia?
Can someone please explain why the answer to the second puzzle is FUCHSIA?????

EDIT: Never mind. I get it. None of the pictures mean anything at all. Only the color of the page is important. AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!! Evil or Very Mad

Bill, thanks for contributing to my giant ulcer.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:13 pm
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Lysithea
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 		Looking more closely at the text:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I "ignored" the lower case letters, by replacing them with spaces.
Looks like a maze to me...
I attached it as a file because I couldn't get the code and spoiler tags to work together. Embarassed

amazingjourney.txt
Description  Another way of looking at the text
 txt

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Filename  amazingjourney.txt 
Filesize  2.64KB 
Downloaded  209 Time(s) 
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Caterpillar
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 		Fantastic! Great job! (Which would be wat the two arrows are for that I've been squeezing my brain about)

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Lysithea
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 		Thanks Caterpillar, I had completely missed the first arrow. Smile
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Taking every odd column of the original text grid (ie the first column, the 3rd column, etc), and replacing the captial letters with spaces gives a maze with a smiley face in the top left corner. Doing the same for the even numbered columns creates a second maze which joins on to the first one.
The > are marked with black squares. One path 'crossses the tracks' between the two mazes, and both meet at the smiley face 'happily ever after'.
I suspect that RTM and USA are keys to decipher the paths through the maze as spelled out by the captial letters.

smile.gif
 Description   Happily ever after
 Filesize   38.1KB
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smile.gif

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Caterpillar
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Lysithea wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
One path 'crossses the tracks' between the two mazes, and both meet at the smiley face 'happily ever after'.


I suppose that would be the fence he jumped....makes total sense now....lol.....and the southwest thing too.

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However, I worked a long time on your first maze (drats)....lol...trying to extract the lowercase letters between the rails that lead from arrow to arrow. I got nothing (I now know why.... Wink ). But it might be the same thing with this new beautiful maze (only with CAPS). I'm just too tired to go at it again...


Very Happy

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rowan
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Lysithea wrote:
Thanks Caterpillar, I had completely missed the first arrow. Smile
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Taking every odd column of the original text grid (ie the first column, the 3rd column, etc), and replacing the captial letters with spaces gives a maze with a smiley face in the top left corner. Doing the same for the even numbered columns creates a second maze which joins on to the first one.
The > are marked with black squares. One path 'crossses the tracks' between the two mazes, and both meet at the smiley face 'happily ever after'.
I suspect that RTM and USA are keys to decipher the paths through the maze as spelled out by the captial letters.


Great job on this! I just have one thought (okay, make that two) that may or may not make a difference:

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The way I read the story, it says he follows the southwest tracks to the end. To me, that would mean that starting at the top > we should follow a path that takes us to the 2nd > . Once there, do something or other - then head back home to live happily ever after (at the smilly face).

One other thing - if you discard the lowercase letters, you get a slightly different maze, but there is one interesting bit in it. If you start at the first > then wind your way down to the 2nd, you have to retrace your steps a bit to get to a spot where you can wind your way up to near where the smiley face is. The point where to two paths diverge also happens to be where you can find a uSA grouped together (headed back home to the USA) - though it could just be a happy coincendence.


edit: I've uploaded an excel spreadsheet so you can see what I mean.
maze.xls
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ustice
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 		Yet another view. Easy to see.
maze.rtf
Description 
rtf

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Filesize  12.95KB 
Downloaded  143 Time(s) 
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rowan
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 		The puzzle has been updated. It now has a link to the excel spreadsheet (which I'm guessing means that is on the right track) and some slightly different wording.

Quote:
From a reliable source: Bill's Amazing Journey

Bill is a nice guy, but somehow he ended up being in trouble anyway. He decided to leave town for a while.

Time was running out, so he jumped over the fence to get on the southwest tracks.


He followed these tracks for a long time, without even getting lost once!


At the end of the tracks he realized his trail had very strict rules, so he decided to play fair with prejudice.

After a while things had cooled down again. So Bill got a ticket from RTM and headed back home to the USA.

There he lived happily ever after.


Compare that to the first text:

Quote:
From a reliable source: Bill's Amazing Journey

Bill is a nice guy, but somehow he ended up being in trouble anyway. He decided to leave town for a while.

Time was running out, so he jumped over the fence to get on the southwest tracks.

He followed these tracks for a long time, without even getting lost once!

At the end of the tracks he found a place where they have very strict rules, so he decided to play with prejudice.

After a while things had cooled down again. So Bill got a ticket from RTM and headed back home to the USA.

There he lived happily ever after.



Part of me is wondering if the rules that Bill had for the contest also has something to do with this - hence the first link - but I don't know what it could be.
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Lysithea
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 		Great job on the path through the maze and relating it to the story, rowan and Ustice. Smile
Quote:
At the end of the tracks he realized his trail had very strict rules, so he decided to play fair with prejudice.

I had been wondering what the 'play with prejudice' part meant.
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"play fair with prejudice"
I think the update is a bit of a shove in the direction of the PlayFair Cipher.

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catherwood
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 		I'm certainly not taking credit for this one. While those of us in chat were all trying various ciphertexts, Ustice mentioned that maze.php and another word did not work. After some spelling corrections, this was found:
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http://www.deaddrop.us/contests/labyrinth.php

and thus I commenced with the cursage.

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