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MageSteff
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 		SPEC: Lorenz Transformations, please look again with me
Pretty Please? Let's take another look at Lorenz transformations.

With the conversation that Iris had with the unnamed caller (Sarah?)
about the collision between "Avalon and Analog"...

I think we need to re-visit the lightcone, multiworld theories, Lorenz transformations, and area of incidence between two sources of different colors of light.
http://kossover.home.mindspring.com/lightcone.html
Has a good picture that shows it in a simplified manner. If the red light is universe A and the green light is universe B, there is an area where the two interact, but note that they do not interact on a long term basis, at some point they are separate again.

Lorenz Transformation pages:
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/sr/centre.html
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/sr/centre.html#cerulean

and a movie of the lightcone transformation can be found at:
[url]//casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/sr/lor.html[/url]

I discovered another item that looks like an hourglass shape, the Einstein Rosen Bridge…

http://www.cakes.mcmail.com/StarTrek/worm.htm


My spec: same as it has been for some time now, given the different scientific permutations that Greywethers has taken us through...

There was a point where Avalon (the universe of the Wish) and Analog (Dale's world) intersected. Unfortunately, the worlds are moving in different directions, which may be why AGP amusment park disappeared, for a short time it wasn not part of the overlap. It may be why the Paint came up through the walls in Phyllis's home and disappeared the next day. So why has the weirness continued? Well, if there are beings that can walk between worlds, and change the direction of travel through space time they can move from travelling in one reality to be travelling in another reality, even after the "lightcone" of incidence has taken both worlds away from interacting. These beings become part of the new world, a place they don't belong.

Another analogy, using plants. Landscapers use many types of plants, some of which are not native to the areas they get planted. With some species, there is little chance of spreading uncontrolled, in others, once they are established they begin to crowd out the native flora. Kudzu is one such. In FLorida we have a problem with Meleluca (Punk) trees.
Same thing can be said of animals. In Austrailia, dogs and rabbits were introduced for various reasons, bith had become nuisance pests in the Austrailian ecosystem. Zebra mussels in the Great Lakes of North America. Fire Ants in Florida, came from South America where a fungus exists that controls the population, there is no fungus in Florida, meaning picnickers get bit, people doingg yard work get bit, and these little beauties inject a toxin that creates a severe itch and burning sensation that you have to experience to believe it, anow the pests have marched on Georgia, Alabama, Lousiana, and Texas.

Gang, based on Iris's description of the large number of DEG she saw, I think they are beginning to multiply and take over Aglaura. That is not a good thing.
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 		Lorenz Butterfly/Hourglass
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 		Re: Lorenz Butterfly/Hourglass
Magesteff wrote:
this image comes from
http://www.exploratorium.edu/complexity/CompLexicon/lorenz.html


This reminds me of Phyllis when she said she felt like that she would either metamorphose into a moth or a butterfly...

In this Lorenz computer modeling it sounds like the game that we are playing here. It also reminds me of what carol is heading toward

In Lorenz's meteorological computer modeling, he discovered the underlying mechanism of deterministic chaos: simply-formulated systems with only a few variables can display highly complicated behavior that is unpredictable. Using his digital computer, culling through reams of printed numbers and simple strip chart plots of the variables, Equally important Lorenz showed that this occurred in a simple, but physically relevant model.
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 		Re: Lorenz Butterfly/Hourglass
Sunny du Pree wrote:
Magesteff wrote:
this image comes from
http://www.exploratorium.edu/complexity/CompLexicon/lorenz.html


This reminds me of Phyllis when she said she felt like that she would either metamorphose into a moth or a butterfly...

In this Lorenz computer modeling it sounds like the game that we are playing here. It also reminds me of what carol is heading toward.


We also need to start looking into Godel and Alan Turing then.
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