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[setters393]

always look on the bright side

[ryandrew]

Just so you all know, i spent a LOT of time today and yesterday, entering combinations. I can confirm that the numbers you enter are NOT 1 2 3 5 8 and 13. At least not according to the size of the square. I tried all 720 combinations, and none worked.
The numbers must be random, so we must need to find them somewhere.

Annoying eh?

[trevdak]

[GuyP]

He meant that he tried all the graphics combinations, but always using 13 for the biggest square, 8 for the next biggest, and so on. I rather assumed (and partly still do) that the biggest square will have the biggest number (that the square size and number are both different ways of expressing the same concept of "worth"), rather than a completely different order of numbers vs. square order.

One alternative is that the numbers (whatever they are) go backwards, with the smallest one being most valuable as it's nearest The Star.

[Faithers]

My deductions of the grid are similiar in that I believe the most precious would be closest to the center..but not because it would put it next to the star...I figure it's because that is where the spiral starts. I also started thinking on the lines of the largest square wouldn't necessarily be for the most precious. But more for something that even though it is the least valuable or of the least importance..there are more of that particular item to go around. For instance..if you think in terms of the devil..there is most likely only one trident; butterflies on the hand are in abundance.
Hope this made sense

[ryandrew]

Lol, thanks for that. I realised i didnt communicate it very well, but at least you understood it. Yeah, i figured the numbers were the ones from the webcam pic. But alas, fibbonacci is a no brainer here. Though its pretty obvious we have to make the spiral.

[Eddie Nichols]

List of Signs on HWAU

[ryandrew]

I just had a scary thought.
At the bottom of Brigid's email is the reference number you give to view the Maltese Falcon IMDB webpage. This has already been discovered in Jon's cache, on 25th July. At the time of reading it orginally on Jon's page i got suspicious.-(forgive me for crude summary) A film in which a detective helping search with a woman for some treasure is completely deceived by the woman who is not as she seems (named Brigid no less!), and the "treasure" turns out to be fake.
So again, why the reference? Is it trying to tell us the money/prize is a fake, or is it trying to generate paranoia? Or is there a useful hint to be found in this film?

[Nishlup]

I'm stuck with "everything begins where it ends".
Connecting the Dog to S&S and the Snake to Ophis, I making the assumption that the snake is where it all begins. If the star is representing evil in any way, the snake would be the place it started (biblically speaking). The Dog is where it all ends. That fits the way we conclude our journey in the S&S site as well as the fact that all journeys are ended in the MIB's hands...

I'm not sure the numbers will follow this logic sense that would make it easier to solve...

[dashcat]

Ok here is a bit of my spec.

All of the symbols are either manifestations of the devil or they are used by the devil....except the Butterfly. The Butterfly represents free souls. The Butterfly shuns the MIB. Are they coveted by the MIB or are they worthless to him? I think the spiral ends or begins with the butterfly. Ok it's not much but I wanted to add something to this spec.

The Dog (old Shuck, Hell Hound) and the Snake are manifestations of the MIB. The Raven is his eyes and ears. The Trident and Fire are his tools of torment.

Precious to who? Precious is subjective unless you are dealing with Gemstones or or other hard to find objects. Maybe we need to define precious. Precious to the man in black? Arrrg.

[ryandrew]

Yeah, but there are only 720 combinations of where you put the symbols, and im assuming we turn them to make a spiral. The hard part is figuring out the numbers. I've already determined it isnt 1 2 3 5 8 13, and im now almost completely sure it isnt 1 2 3 4 5 6 either.

[GuyP (logged out)]

Yeah, the "giving each square a number" part would be pretty pointless if it was just 1 2 3 4 5 6...

[ryandrew]

Each box lets us put in a maximum of 2 digits. Why 2 if they only wanted 1 2 3 4 5 6? My first thought was that it allowed for the use of 13, fibonnacci style. But no. I have finely combed EVERY game related page, and found nothing of use. I think we need to either expand our search, or wait for a clue from the PMs.

[Noizzzey]

In my opinion we have to use the fibonacci numbers 1,2,3,5,8 and 13.. because they're the only true numbers to fit the grid (looking at the heigth of the grid {13}).. And the 'Star'-sign is the same size as the next in line.. only possible option looking at the fibonacci. ther's only one string of numbers with two of the same. it's a simple case of adding one and one together... ehm... heheh

when we fit in the signs, I think we have to llok at the smallest as the least precious and the biggest as the most precious.. And use that order under the grid for the Phonenumber...

[Eddie Nichols]

Phone number...