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[PUZZLE] [SOLVED] Dinah's print-out
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ziot
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Even the dates are near identical, interesting.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:40 pm
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Here I have my own formatting and prettification of the text attached for reference.
formatted_text.txt
Description  Formatted version of Dinah text
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:41 pm
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kelsey updated his previous post with the full translation, so now the full decoded text is before the full encoded text :s!
interesting stuff though, it seems in context with the emails that sente thought it might be a nice bonus for us to get some backstory on the history of it all, and the plain text fragment in the email is more whats important for the progression of the ARG, cos it fits into what we already have.
some cool stuff in there though.
anyone any ideas what the SFC meeting might be that XXXX had to go to?

rach =)

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The complete text, with punctuation -

[EDIT] Whoops! Oh, well, one can only type so fast....
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I think there are more than 1 thing going on in the cipher.

I think we have a History text, but it seems there are two distinct portions. The first portion ends at the drunken quotes, and a new snippet picks up.

We have a lot to digest !

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As far as we can now tell the academy was founded in around 573 BC, certainly it can be shown to exist by the year 571 BC when we learn from the journal of DeGabus of " . . . Malmethatan groupe of scholars have late taken residence in the city purposeing here to study both the antient and the modern mysteries. They have for a year or more taken rooms with Mrs Feon of Kingdom Street, who complains mightily of the noxious stink emanating from their alchymical experimentations, but I hear they have in mind to remove to the cellars late of Mr Beston brewer so recently passed away."

Academy scholars will naturally be familiar with the Beston rooms. These are unlikely to be the original cellars once occupied by that scholarly fellowship, but do seem to be in roughly the right location later the same year. DeGabus notes a behaviour pattern that might be familiar to the more junior members of the academy today.

" . . . The scholares of Beston cellars may rightly be called the natural inheritors of those brewing rooms for I observed this night in Thilke market as I returned home after dining with Mr Shaarten, a supposed scholar whom I identified by his cap drunken and reeling in the street I made as to pass by him swiftly but he being jovial in his cups called out:"

"Hi sir. Would you pass by a scholar without raising your arm?"

Quoth I: "I see no scholar here sir unless it be a scholar of the sweeteneds sleep."

Quoth he: "Sir, think you that viticulture is no subject for study?"

Quoth I: "Sir I do not call your pursuit study for the more you study in this fashion the duller your mind becomes. I think I may consider myself the match in wit for any scholar . . .
"

. . . called by some academicians despite the continuing disapproval of the townsfolk the academy remained it grew in size taking on additional rooms in the area of those original Beston cellars and offering a tuition service to the sons and daughters of wealthy townsfolk as a way of funding its continuing research. No scholars of note were yet resident in the academy although Varkin writes that she passed through on her way north and comments that she ". . . enjoyed an excellent dinner, though the tables of this academy be fine indeed the discourse of its scholars is finer yet!"

The academy's first significant expansion came in 452 BC with a gift from Naskent Taversen. Taversen, one of the city's wealthiest and most influential landowners had been fascinated by the studies of the academy he had sent his only daughter Aetiant to be educated by the scholars and is known to have observed some of Macelvoys early experiments with static electricity.

Aetiant Taversen became a scholar at the academy and apparently negotiated with her father the substantial gift he gave the institution in his last years. Taversen gifted his house along with various surrounding pieces of property to the academy inperpetuity. With this bequest the academy was able to shore up its financial situation which until then had been uncertain at best. The patronage of Naskent Taversen also brought the academy to the attention of many other wealthy and important people across the country when in 443 BC Aetiant Taversen was elected by the other fellows of the academy to become its first master. She was able to preside over an unprecedented period of growth and success in which for the first time the academy was able to select its pupils . . .

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edit: NOOOO!!!! Beaten to the post!
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ziot
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This just looks like the papers, it's repetitive and we have more text to fill in.


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On 4 Mar 2005, at 11:16, Sente wrote:

Please confirm your plans regarding the final two video slots. xxxx mentioned
you had been investigating some alternative strategies. I see no harm in
changing tack.

S


This confirms there is going to be another 'video' slot. Perhaps the movie on the website? Or maybe another webcam? They said alternative strategy, so i'm assuming not another webcam.


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On 4 Mar 2005, at 14:27, xxxx wrote:

http://www.fujiint.co.uk/street/index.html


Although denied in the emails, this potentially is another cam that we should keep in mind.


edit: stated about a New York idea. I believe that was the post cards, if so, completely disregard this post.

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POTUS wrote:
I think there are more than 1 thing going on in the cipher.

I think we have a History text, but it seems there are two distinct portions. The first portion ends at the drunken quotes, and a new snippet picks up.


I think you're cutting off the quote too early. I get the end of the second quote as "I think I may consider myself the match in wit for any a scholar called by some academicians." at which point the text continues naturally.

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ziot wrote:
This just looks like the papers, it's repetitive and we have more text to fill in.


Quote:
On 4 Mar 2005, at 11:16, Sente wrote:

Please confirm your plans regarding the final two video slots. xxxx mentioned
you had been investigating some alternative strategies. I see no harm in
changing tack.

S


This confirms there is going to be another 'video' slot. Perhaps the movie on the website? Or maybe another webcam? They said alternative strategy, so i'm assuming not another webcam.



Actually, the first video slot was the Library, then there was the China morning post, then this, and lastly the Guardian on Monday. I think that's all. The other camera was apparently a back up, but the Abbey Road one held up well.
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maxim wrote:
ziot wrote:
This just looks like the papers, it's repetitive and we have more text to fill in.


Quote:
On 4 Mar 2005, at 11:16, Sente wrote:

Please confirm your plans regarding the final two video slots. xxxx mentioned
you had been investigating some alternative strategies. I see no harm in
changing tack.

S


This confirms there is going to be another 'video' slot. Perhaps the movie on the website? Or maybe another webcam? They said alternative strategy, so i'm assuming not another webcam.



Actually, the first video slot was the Library, then there was the China morning post, then this, and lastly the Guardian on Monday. I think that's all. The other camera was apparently a back up, but the Abbey Road one held up well.



Yeah, that's what I was assuming, didn't see the last bit about the 'New York' thing till after.

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the two video slots they had left to fill were both filled by the ny library thing and the abbey rd thing, namely the two things they go on to discuss in the rest of the email convo (read it upwards, first email is most recent)

we have one thing on the video left and thats the guardian newspaper, which looks to be the last fragment we need to complete the newspaper story/press release thingy.

could be wrong, but it really does seem like the oxford circus webcam link is now redundant after today.

EDIT: woops, must learn to type faster...

rach =)

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Incidentally, this reference lists the word "hi" as originating in 1862. However, the Oxford English Dictionary (a rather more accurate reference) mentions "hi" showing up in writing first in 1475. "Hello" didn't appear until the mid-1800s. So "hi" is probably just fine in the text.

I just wanted to clarify for anyone who found the use of the word strange.

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growfybruce wrote:
Full document reads:

Quote:
On 4 Mar 2005, at 20:02, Sente wrote:

I hardly think that's necessary.

...[see post here]...

On 4 Mar 2005, at 11:16, Sente wrote:

Please confirm your plans regarding the final two video slots. xxxx mentioned
you had been investigating some alternative strategies. I see no harm in
changing tack.

S


Interesting that this sounds almost oog, but the use of the name Sente indicates that this clearly is in-game, and therefore the academy's team are in a London office ("One of the guys from the office..."), and it also suggests that the team are planning their information giving as they go, not in advance as we may have first guessed.

To me, this presents a whole new 'human' side to the previously shady Sente, who seems to be directing a team not unlike our own in his efforts to pass information on to us. It also suggests that whilst they are 'here', they cannot themselves retrieve the cube. Reasons for this?
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Uhmm...

So, it seems like Sente and Dinah are... making an ARG?

- Mornington

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Well, I think you could say they are using those techniques to pass the info to us.
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