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konamouse
Official uF Dietitian
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 8010 Location: My own alternate reality
Another way the ancient greek were used to speak of a gnomon is the one reported also by Eli Maor: even in the year 1105 BC, in the far east as Maor reports, from a text named Chou-pei Suan-king it can be found written:
«The knowledge comes from the shadow,
and the shadow comes from the gnomon»
What is this gnomon referred here, and what has it to do with shadows, to the degree Eli Maor speaks of "shadow reckoning"?
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:37 pm
konamouse
Official uF Dietitian
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 8010 Location: My own alternate reality
I love trying something and then it pops up and scares me that it worked.
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http://www.greywethers.net/shadow.html
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:38 pm
catherwood
I Have 100 Cats and Smell of Wee
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 4109 Location: Silicon Valley, CA
konamouse wrote:
...«The knowledge comes from the shadow,
and the shadow comes from the gnomon»
What is this gnomon referred here, and what has it to do with shadows..
It is the vertical portion of a sundial which casts the shadow:
http://www.kaccents.com/For_Home/Garden/Sundials/1298.htm
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:41 pm
Gupfee
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Joined: 22 Sep 2002 Posts: 817 Location: Massachusetts
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:44 pm
Sunny du Pree
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Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
And the letters that are highlighted in the quote spell
YOGA
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:50 pm
MageSteff
Pretty talky there aintcha, Talky?
Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 2716 Location: State of Denial
Dont forget...
Don't forget this:
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In the quote the letters Y O G A are in a different size/type face and stick out. The numbers are broken into three sets like so:
21, 83, 42
09, 26, 13, 79, 80, 15
61, 22, 55, 07
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 9:53 pm
Myssfitz
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Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 695 Location: In the pasture
In the source at the knowledge and shadow pages I found a swf. Which I know is just the numbers that come up on the knowledge and shadow page, but...
http://www.greywethers.net/text1.swf
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 10:44 pm
dashcat
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Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 816 Location: Under the bed
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 11:30 pm
Myssfitz
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Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 695 Location: In the pasture
The quotes are all from the Golden Rule. There are 13 of them. See the list here:
http://www.mindanao.com/kalinaw/thoughts/goldenrule.htm
I tried "thirteen" and no luck.
*Edit- It leads us to:
http://www.blavatsky.net/
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 11:50 pm
grumpyboy
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Spoiler (Rollover to View):
thegoldenrule.html (yea dash!) is a bunch of quotes which were all "golden rules" in diff religions/beliefs except one. which is one by aristotle called the golden mean (yea gupfee!). This leads to thegoldenmean.html (yeah gupfee!)
That page had an audio consisting of a bunch of beeps. Those in chat caught on that it was somehow related to fibonacci. Some good googling by gupfee found the page that the audio was from (http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fib.html). This led to rabbitsequence.html (credit to Diandra who was so fast on this one that nobody knew what she meant when she said "rabbit sequence" - sorry i missed you on this one earlier)
we've emailed whitehouseSPLAT greywethers.net and fibonacciSPLAT greywethers.net but have not heard back from them yet...
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:01 am
Last edited by grumpyboy on Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:13 pm; edited 1 time in total
Myssfitz
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Ohh, didn't see the golden mean one.
Good job dash and gupfee and grumpyboy
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:07 am
Last edited by Myssfitz on Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:27 am; edited 1 time in total
Sunny du Pree
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Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 636 Location: Push, Nevada
greywethers puzzle solve I am in AWE you guys blow me away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:04 am
Myssfitz
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Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 695 Location: In the pasture
The page says: e-mail the creator's name.
His name wasn't Fibonacci. It was actually Leonardo of Pisa or Leonardo Pisano. See below.
Quote:
Who was Fibonacci?
The "greatest European mathematician of the middle ages", his full name was Leonardo of Pisa, or Leonardo Pisano in Italian since he was born in Pisa (Italy), the city with the famous Leaning Tower, about 1175 AD.
He also went by Fibonacci (duh, i know ), Leonardo Bigollo, and filius Bonacci. In older books any variation of the above mentioned could be found (besides Fibonacci). So I've tried them all. Info from the same page.
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:32 am
Last edited by Myssfitz on Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:51 am; edited 2 times in total
Caterpillar
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 1887 Location: cem's otherbody
WhooHoo Great job guys!
On Thursday morning I did a lot of reading (post on pg2) and came up with a lot of stuff on shadows/astrolabs/sundials....and even led me to the Golden Rule.
Now my question is.... I (and I'm sure others) tried shadow/thegoldenrule/goldenrule among others. I tried these on Thursday, so why wouldn't they have worked if the next page after gnomon was indeed shadow?
I'm just curious, because the leap to shadow (after reading a lot on "gnomonics" seemed logical enough to me, although I hadn't solved "gnomon". So do you think the PMs watch until we seem on the right track before they "turn it on" so to speak.
Again...great work all!
~cem
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:35 am
grumpyboy
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Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 660
to get everyone up to speed...
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
clicking on the "enter" button causes a popup asking "Enter the correct amount of sacrifice to make". Those who read the http://mathforum.org/alejandre/magic.square/loshu.html page quickly knew the correct answer was "15". Entering "fifteen" in the popup box (i don't think "15" works) leads us to http://www.greywethers.net/sb5/fifteen.html
Initially there was nothing in the source code of that page, but it was quickly updated with <!--no more (for now) -->
That's it for now...
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:41 am
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