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[Update] 28 March Perplex City Sentinel
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Guizzy
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 		Clues pointing to Eel and Cucumber Rolls in the futures of the 21th March:

Quote:
The Eagle (March 11 - April 10)
Heel, boy! You've been coming down pretty hard on your group. Step back, breathe, and remember - it's only a game.

"Heel boy" is not exactly the most popular way of starting a futures!

Then...

Quote:
The Wave (May 11 - June 10)
I love how hard you're working, but I do not love the toll this work is taking on your body. I prescribe green vegetables and a spa day


It seems pretty obvious this is directed to us and is giving us a clue. Now that we know about it, it is pretty safe to assume Green vegetables is referring to "cucumber".

EDIT:

I can't explain why, but I also get the feeling this refers to eels:


Quote:
The Spider (April 11 - May 10)
Miss Priss, when last we spoke you were plotting vengeance on he who done you wrong. Giving the man a little space may be just the unexpected trick to lure him back to your lair.


Searching some more, I found this info about eels:
Quote:
Moray eels are found skulking under rocks and in crevices. They wait for fish and crustaceans to swim by before surging out of their hiding place to grab their unwary prey.

And also, female eels are known to be larger and more agressive than males.

For our defense, I think we can safely say that these were much less than obvious clues!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:27 pm
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Zzedar
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 		If you take the first letters of each Future, you get "eswahdtdmahb," which can be rearranged to spell "web dash ad htm."

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LordKinbote
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lotusflower wrote:
"Shuffle your way to heaven ... "

Well, we have Crispy Heaven - a bite out of heaven ... Crispy Heaven is our way to Heaven, so Rearrange Crispy Heaven ...

not got any further than that, but perhaps we can use the rest of the future to make a longer clue?


Or maybe it's even easier and we're supposed to take it as "shuffle 'your way to heaven'".

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Guizzy
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Zzedar wrote:
If you take the first letters of each Future, you get "eswahdtdmahb," which can be rearranged to spell "web dash ad htm."

This'd be a good clue if it actually went somewhere. http://www.perplexcitysentinel.com/web/ad.htm doesn't seem to exist, neither does http://www.perplexcity.com/web/ad.htm

I've tried a few subdirectories, but none seems to work. Anyone knows any other In-Game sites we can try that on?

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LordKinbote
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Guizzy wrote:
Zzedar wrote:
If you take the first letters of each Future, you get "eswahdtdmahb," which can be rearranged to spell "web dash ad htm."

This'd be a good clue if it actually went somewhere. http://www.perplexcitysentinel.com/web/ad.htm doesn't seem to exist, neither does http://www.perplexcity.com/web/ad.htm

I've tried a few subdirectories, but none seems to work. Anyone knows any other In-Game sites we can try that on?


Though those are slashes, not dashes.

Not that web-ad.htm works either.

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leakingpen
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 		the lair is a reference to the old come into my parlor said the spider to the fly. also, on teh cards.

rhine cards ar ethe esp cards youve seen before. two of the symbols are the triangle and the wave.

wait, trouting myself. yes wave, but no triangle. a square, a circle, a plus sign, a five pointed star, and a set of three wavy lines

hmm
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RI_Barnica
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leakingpen wrote:
i doubt the ascendancy point is a space elevator.
they dont mass enough to effect a planet gravitationally.


Since we're talking about astrology, not celestial mechanics, that's not important. We're not talking about affecting a planet gravitationally, we're talking about affecting a human gravitationally . And since gravity falls of as the square of distance, you don't need much mass on earth to equal the gravitational effect of a planet so far away. My rough calc says a couple of kilos on earth exerts the same gravitational force as Mars did at its closest approach... but then my math is often shoddy at best. Have a look here for further discussion. As it points out, your car has more effect on you (gravitationally speaking) than mars does. So a space elevator near your city would certainly be in the running.

I'm still hoping for a space elevator, but I guess a regular space station or even an airport would fit the bill, too. After all, they're all points where you ascend.
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Saevitia
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 		I approached my friend who dosn't do args to look at the site, to give us a fresh perspective in case we were missing anything obvious. She had these remarks in regards to the futures page.

"maybe base three is a place or a thing,

'The Archer has you in her sights. Should your subdolous ways slip, she'll snarl. Scarper.' that whole thing dounds like a code involving the other sign.it doesn't make sense as a clue or even a sentance.some of the wording is strange. I've seen something like it before, actually. in the series of unfortunate event books. I believe then, it was the first letter of every 11th word, or some such nonsense."

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spugmeistress
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 		probably old old news now but in case anyone else thinks of it, i tried a few things with transposing the postcard number on top of the eels and cucumber sushi rolls thing, thinking of those old word puzzles you get in kids puzzle books.

Code:

221545484848465100503215
eelandcucumbersushirolls




rot-ing each letter according to its digit from the postcard number gets you nowhere, even then rot-ing the results,
i.e.
e+2=g, e+2=g, l+1=m, came out as ggmfrigcgcqjixxvshnrrnmx

i thought that maybe it was like a cryptogram and charted the letters against the numbers they corresponded to like :

1 lul
2 eel
3 o
4 nccme
5 adsis
6 r
7
8 uub
9

obviously some numbers have more than one letter so i thought maybe it could be that each of the 26 numbers corresponding to the 26 letters of the alphabet would then be broken down into single digit numbers i.e z=26=2+6=8 and that would account for the duplicity, but that only allows for 3 letters per single digit number at the most, and so wouldnt work for 4 or 5

also, since some letters appear with more than one number, it probably wouldnt have worked in the first place ;) but i was curious lol

it also doesnt make any difference if you use alex smith's first thing (without the sushi)

i know its pretty basic stuff but this is about my level! and it saves anyone else trying... if anyone else has any ideas how the number might correspond with the phrase good luck to you :)

rach =)

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Alison_1
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 		Re: anagram from #syzygy
rose wrote:
hagfish announced:
<Hagfish> "Eel and cucumber rolls" = "Unscramble older clue"
sounds good to me.


I'm inclined to go with this. I went over some old Dan Hon transcripts where he hinted that we missed something fairly obvious early on, or came up with an incorrect solution and went with it instead. Maybe we need to retrace our steps and see if anything in Syzgy jumps out?

I'm also still inclined to think that The Sentinel is meant simply as a communications device to provide us feedback and hints (not clues) rather than to launch important games. I think it fairly obvious that the current Sente articles are chronicling the backlog and delays the PMs are experiencing in putting out the game = hence, nothing really of note to chase down as of yet. (Prolly will be some sort of triumphant letter when "Sente's" plans to retrieve the Cube are finally underway.)

On the other hand, maybe there's still a site out there we haven't found due to overlooking something in pre-game. ??? Confused
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LordKinbote
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 		Re: anagram from #syzygy
Alison_1 wrote:
On the other hand, maybe there's still a site out there we haven't found due to overlooking something in pre-game. ??? Confused


Usually pre-game is pre-game. I doubt the PMs would be punishing us for something we missed months ago. The thought of going over everything again with an even finer toothed comb is frightening.

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Alison_1
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Mikeyj wrote:
...subdolous for the record is
Quote:
Sly; crafty; cunning; artful.

according to dictionary.com


Interesting, it was also the Word of the Day (wordsmith.org) on March 21st according to this strange LiveJournal site but published as follows on March 22nd:

Quote:
Date: Tue Mar 22 00:00:37 EST 2005
Subject: A.Word.A.Day--subdolous
X-Bonus: Our admiration of fine writing will always be in proportion to its real difficulty and its apparent ease. -Charles Caleb Colton, author and clergyman (1780-1832)

subdolous (SUB-duh-luhs) adjective

Sly; crafty; cunning.

[From Latin subdolus, from sub- (slightly) + dolus (deceit).]


It's interesting to note that dictionary.com does not recognize the word in Thesaurus mode; it tries to correct the spelling.

Even more fun: check out the Word of the Day for March 28th:

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Date: Mon Mar 28 00:00:13 EST 2005
Subject: A.Word.A.Day--antanaclasis
X-Bonus: If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. -Noam Chomsky, linguistics professor and political activist (1928- )

antanaclasis (ant-an-uh-KLAS-is) noun

A play on words in which a key word is repeated in a different,
often contrary, sense.

[From Greek antanaklasis (echo or reflection), from anti- (against) +
ana- + klasis (breaking or bending).]

Some examples of antanaclasis:

o Your argument is sound, nothing but sound. -Benjamin Franklin
o If you aren't fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm.
-Vince Lombardi
o Learn some craft when young, that when old you may live without craft.
-Anonymous

"Other types of puns, apart from antanaclasis, paronomasia and
syllepsis, are also frequently used... Antanaclasis; repetition of a
word in two different senses; Our frequent fliers can frequent other
fliers. (British Airways)"
James H. Leigh; The Use of Figures of Speech in Print Ad Headlines;
Journal of Advertising; Jun 1994.

What do you expect when you mess around with a wordy pal? Wordplay,
of course! And that's what you are going to get for the next five
days. In this week's AWAD, we feature words about words, words that
describe play with words.

In case you haven't figured this out yourself by now, 'wordplay'
is an anagram of 'wordy pal'. You can make your own anagrams at:
http://wordsmith.org/anagram


Perhaps Madama Bianca can see through the future...and into our world's Word of the Day Internet feed... Wink
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mti
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 		personals
One of the futures mentioned putting an ad in the personals, does anyone think we need to check these? Especially in the guardian, that seems to be a favourite of the PMs. This may be a way of contacting someone on the other side.

Second, it might be useful to think about what any future clues might physically be i.e. is it going to be a web address? Personally, i think the game is still delayed because there seems to be nothing on the sentinel site that we can interact with and therefore move to another stage.

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RI_Barnica wrote:
leakingpen wrote:
i doubt the ascendancy point is a space elevator.
they dont mass enough to effect a planet gravitationally.


Since we're talking about astrology, not celestial mechanics, that's not important. We're not talking about affecting a planet gravitationally, we're talking about affecting a human gravitationally . And since gravity falls of as the square of distance, you don't need much mass on earth to equal the gravitational effect of a planet so far away. My rough calc says a couple of kilos on earth exerts the same gravitational force as Mars did at its closest approach... but then my math is often shoddy at best. Have a look here for further discussion. As it points out, your car has more effect on you (gravitationally speaking) than mars does. So a space elevator near your city would certainly be in the running.

I'm still hoping for a space elevator, but I guess a regular space station or even an airport would fit the bill, too. After all, they're all points where you ascend.



no, there was a letter saying futures is bunk, because the point affects more than planets do gravitationally.
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yanka wrote:
...the Sentinel staff doesn't know that the e-mails were written by Earth residents (which begs the question of "who would take the care of forwarding these e-mails to Perplex City and of making sure that they look like they were generated in that world?").


I like this spec. alison_1 and juan liu: are the names "Chasen der Würfel" and "Julianne Bowman" the ones you used to sign your emails? (trout me if this has been answered before). If not then maybe someone in Sente's team is intercepting Earth's emails, changing names and forwarding then to the Sentinel, manipulating and using it as a medium to feed us information and direct our efforts.

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