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Caterpillar
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 		Email from Shadowtalk
From: <shadowtalk1@netscape.net>

Quote:
To: <dale@synthasia.com>

Subject:

Date: 27 July 2003

0111001001100101011001100110111101110010011011010
1100001011101000111010001101001011011100110011101
1100100110010101100110011011110111001001101101011
1010101101100011000010111010001101001011011100110
0111011100100110010101100011011011110110111001100
1100110100101100111011101010111001001101001011011
1001100111011101000111010101110010011010010110111
001100111


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reformatting reformulating reconfiguring turing

Alan Turing: English mathematician whose works explored the possibility of computers and raised fundamental questions about artificial intelligence. During World War II he contributed to the allied victory by helping to decipher the German Enigma codes.


Edit***Sorry, didn't realize this was being discussed in "Interaction". Dale's mail was the first place I went when I came on the computer tonight and when I saw it I assumed "Puzzles" and when I didn't see it posted here, went ahead and did so.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:31 pm
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 		I'm guessing the turing at the end is the mathematician?

Turing - English mathematician whose works explored the possibility of computers and raised fundamental questions about artificial intelligence. During World War II he contributed to the allied victory by helping to decipher the German Enigma codes.
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 		lol...had just edited that in.

So.... directive?

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 		There is discussion of a Turing machine here...

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1902
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 		shadowtalk binary
I got that exact same message

01110010011001010110011001101111011100100110110101100001
01110100011101000110100101101110011001110111001001100101
01100110011011110111001001101101011101010110110001100001
01110100011010010110111001100111011100100110010101100011
01101111011011100110011001101001011001110111010101110010
01101001011011100110011101110100011101010111001001101001
0110111001100111

so i looked up the binary as well and came up with the same four words of course... however Because of my limitted vocabulary, i wasn't too sure about the word "Turing" I went to dictionary.com and looked it up.. what i got wasn't a word at all, but rather a person..

the defination of Turing: English mathematician whose works explored the possibility of computers and raised fundamental questions about artificial intelligence. (*ding ding ding* that should be ringing some red alarms people!) During World War II he contributed to the allied victory by helping to decipher the German Enigma codes.

for more information on Alan Turing click http://www.turing.org.uk/turing/

I tried fitting things into the greywethers URL.. but nothing happened.. i suppose that all for now Rolling Eyes

Wow.. would you look at that Blush figured something out
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:39 pm
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 		Blush: If it's not too much to ask, could you edit the binary in your post so the message doesn't string everything out so widely? Just break it up a bit Very Happy

And Welcome!!!

~cem

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 		Re: Email from Shadowtalk
cemgate2002 wrote:
From: <shadowtalk1@netscape.net>
Edit***Sorry, didn't realize this was being discussed in "Interaction". Dale's mail was the first place I went when I came on the computer tonight and when I saw it I assumed "Puzzles" and when I didn't see it posted here, went ahead and did so.


Not a problem Cem. I was just happy to get something "before" the update and get it on the board first!
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 		Thanks Blush Smile

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 		Another:

Quote:
From: <shadowtalk1@netscape.net>

To: <dale@synthasia.com>

Subject:

Date: 28 July 2003

0111000001110010011010010110111001100011011010010
11100000110110001100101


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principle


Whether this is what ST means or not I don't know.

The Church-Turing principle

Every function which would naturally be regarded as computable can be computed by the universal 'Turing' machine' .

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MageSteff
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cemgate2002 wrote:
Whether this is what ST means or not I don't know.

The Church-Turing principle

Every function which would naturally be regarded as computable can be computed by the universal 'Turing' machine' .


Which may lead to "the Entscheidungsproblem" (decision problem). Dale hasn't chosen which side yet, this may refer to that.....
http://setis.library.usyd.edu.au/stanford/archives/win1998/entries/church-turing/
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Turing introduced this thesis in the course of arguing that the Entscheidungsproblem, or decision problem, for the predicate calculus - posed by Hilbert (Hilbert and Ackermann 1928) - is unsolvable. Here is Church's account of the Entscheidungsproblem:
By the Entscheidungsproblem of a system of symbolic logic is here understood the problem to find an effective method by which, given any expression Q in the notation of the system, it can be determined whether or not Q is provable in the system. (Church 1936b: 41.)

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