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[Pseudo-Puzzle] Maps in Maps.kgb {SD 1/travel/maps.kgb/maps}

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ConcretePeanut
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[Pseudo-Puzzle] Maps in Maps.kgb {SD 1/travel/maps.kgb/maps}

WARNING: The following post contains wild speculation and possibly utterly disjointed logic, so read at your own risk.

There are a couple of interesting things about these two pictures, possibly being either puzzzles or clues.

On the geographical map (which seems to be pinned to the wall) picture there is what appears to be an electrical blueprint or schematic next to it. I checked the relevant folders on IANNET but couldn't find any matches. MY instinct here is to work out what sort of place would have a geographical map and/or a blueprint for a circut on the walls.

On the overhead map picture, there is a pile of papers at the top. The bottom-most of these (if you view it as a pile, not as the y-axis on the picture) seems to have some sort of emblem of crest on it, suggesting headed paper of some kind, maybe from a company or organisation?
Also on this picture, in the same pile, there is the pile of papers with numbers written on them. One of these has the line with '1402' underlined, but the lefthand column is cut off. Going by the progression of the other items in that column, the underlined item would read "15B 1402". On the paper above this, there is what appears to be some sort of bracket around 15A and 15B, but the numbers next to them on this sheet are different. On the same sheet there are the words "ARE", "AND", and what appears to be "FIRE" double-underlined.

Now, it seems that the numbers on these sheets are times. Combining this with the number-letter system of the left column, I suspect that it is a bus timetable or something similar, probably for Florence. Either that, or (and this may be jumping the gun a bit) the times that traffic lights change, with the underlined one being of importance. Afterall, if you were trying to get across a city fast, you'd not only want to know which roads to take, but the light-timings and locations.

As Florence is northern Italy, and they take their cars very seriously around there, I suspect there might be another car show, which means possibly another theft, or industrial sabotage by a competitor?

Edit: title clarification - Rowan

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:57 am

rowan
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picture files

For those that either can't or don't want to download the Kremlin program, I'm uploading the pictures that you get out of the file.

Geologicalsurvey.jpg
Description	Geological survey pic
Filesize	183.47KB
Viewed	308 Time(s)

overheapMap.jpg
Description	overheap map
Filesize	207.69KB
Viewed	310 Time(s)

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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:29 pm

nivra
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ow, it seems that the numbers on these sheets are times. Combining this with the number-letter system of the left column, I suspect that it is a bus timetable or something similar, probably for Florence. Either that, or (and this may be jumping the gun a bit) the times that traffic lights change, with the underlined one being of importance. Afterall, if you were trying to get across a city fast, you'd not only want to know which roads to take, but the light-timings and locations.

It might be a guard security check. The times are the exact times when the guard enters and exits each room. "FIRE" might be fire-escape or fire-alarm.

Also, there appears to be two words above "ARE" and "AND", the lower one's first two letters appear to be either "AP" or "AF." The next word is double underlined, and possibly starts with "D" or "I".

Comparing "overheapMap.jpg" to http://www.florenceitaly.net/pic/FLORENCE.PDF, the streetnames appear to be:

Montibello
Via Melegnano
Via Palazzuolo
Lungarno Corsini
Via de Panzani (marked incorrectly one street off)
Guelfa (?) (also marked one street off)
Via delle Terme
Via dell' oriuolo
Via Fiesolana (marked on wrong section of street)
Lungarno Delle Grazie
Piazza dei Mozzi
[Via] Romana
[Via] Maffia
[Via dei] Serragli
Via dei Leone

italics are official parts of street names not in overheapMap.jpg

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:36 pm

nivra
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Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Posts: 103

Florence museums

This site has some information, plus floor maps of the biggest florence museums. FWIW, Uffizi Gallery, where the LRR frontpage photos come from has 45 rooms, numbered 1-45, with no A's nor B's attached to the rooms. So overheapMap.jpg can't be referring to it.

http://www.aboutflorence.com/museums-in-Florence.html

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:37 pm

nhansard
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Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 159

Re: [Pseudo-Puzzle] Maps from Maps.kgb

ConcretePeanut wrote:

On the overhead map picture, there is a pile of papers at the top. The bottom-most of these (if you view it as a pile, not as the y-axis on the picture) seems to have some sort of emblem of crest on it, suggesting headed paper of some kind, maybe from a company or organisation?
Also on this picture, in the same pile, there is the pile of papers with numbers written on them. One of these has the line with '1402' underlined, but the lefthand column is cut off. Going by the progression of the other items in that column, the underlined item would read "15B 1402". On the paper above this, there is what appears to be some sort of bracket around 15A and 15B, but the numbers next to them on this sheet are different. On the same sheet there are the words "ARE", "AND", and what appears to be "FIRE" double-underlined.

The paper with the writing on is is the same as the one that is upside down in bdoc.pdf. rowan72 did some image manipulation to view the text of it here.

The paper with the crest on it, is probably the same paper as that in bdoc.pdf (it is at least the same crest).

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:38 pm

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