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[PUZZLE] grammarwork.doc {SD 1/family/grammarwork.doc}
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[PUZZLE] grammarwork.doc {SD 1/family/grammarwork.doc}

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Grammar and Composition Homework
Teacher: ___________ Date: __________ Student: ____________________

Directions: In each of the following sentences you have a choice of verbs. Select the one of the two verbs in parentheses which agrees in number with the subject of each sentence.

1. The girls in the office (work, works) long hours.
2. A tree with wide-spreading branches (were, was) brushing the house.
3. The sound of the branches (was, were) weird.
4. The buildings along the waterfront (seem, seems) to be unoccupied.
5. The train with the beach crowds (leave, leaves) at noon.
6. Some guards from the sheriff's office (were, was) trying to calm the crowd.
7. Games of skill (was, were) taught to the campers.
8. A box of these books (weigh, weighs) ninety pounds.
9. The work of riveters (is, are) sometimes dangerous.
The opinions of a critic often (determines, determine) the success of a movie.


Answers are:

work, was, was, seem, leaves, were, were, weighs, is, determine

Translated to binary(0 = first option, 1 = second option)

0100101101

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It's weird that the last exercise is not numbered as "10."

Edit - Topic tag -- Rowan
Edit: more title clarification -- Rowan

PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:51 pm
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Mattazuma
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The last one is labeled as '10' when I open it in Word.

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Strange formatting in Word

OK, I opened the reveal formatting window in word on this file and there is something weird in it.

For some reason the title line has some Asian formatting options turned on in it. This is not a default setting.

Check it out:
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jbd
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Mattazuma wrote:
The last one is labeled as '10' when I open it in Word.


1. through 10. are not actually in the file itself -- it's an autoformatting thing.

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Current speculation

Since almost all the other puzzles had a lead-in hint as to where to luck, we think this one might, too. Specifcally, maybe the word "Composition" in the title, or the phrase "in number" in the directions are a hint. Or maybe we're just insanely grasping at straws.

Things that are odd about the file, or things we noticed:

  • The term "wide-spreading" in exercise 2.
  • The teacher flips singular and plural back and forth, rather than just having each option be (singular, plural).
  • The chkbkexcerpt also has 10 entries.
  • ktg01.txt converts to 10 hexadecimal digits.


We've looked at the binary form of the answers. We've also looked at the singular/plural form of the answers. We've tried to combine hex ktg to the words in the list. No luck on any of these.

Also, I wanted to include the full word doc as an attachment for completeness.
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I think you guys are on to something.
The title could be telling us to combine the words.

"agrees in number with the subject"
Since we're grasping, what if it were to mean we use only the verbs where the number of letters in the verb match the list number?
#3. Was (3 letters)
#4. Were (4 letters)

That's reaching. lol
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Quote:
The chkbkexcerpt also has 10 entries.
ktg01.txt converts to 10 hexadecimal digits.
We've looked at the binary form of the answers. We've also looked at the singular/plural form of the answers. We've tried to combine hex ktg to the words in the list. No luck on any of these.


I tried converting ktg01.txt to 5 decimal digits
98, 83, 202, 48, 120
Nothing happens, but wait. There is an entry in chkbkexcerpt for EXACTLY $202. Can the password be "Insurance"?

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Nope. Back to the drawing board.


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If you take the checkbook values, and re-order them based on amount(low to high), and then look in the Category field, start on the 8th row down, and start reading diagonally downwards, from the first letter, you get:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Ian Nticn, which means nothing.
Just thought I'd share in the spirit of fruitless spoilers.


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I'm starting to think that quarteroffour.zip uses a numeric password:

1) No one has yet broken it using a dictionary attack
2) The composition homework uses strange verbiage to emphasize numbers
Quote:
Select the one of the two verbs in parentheses

Wouldn't "Select the verb in parentheses" make more since.
3) Quarter of four can also denote a fraction 1/4 x 4 = 1
BTW: One, one, and 1 don't work.

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Yes, quarteroffour.zip has probably a numeric, or alphanumeric, password. I tried some dictionaries and also bruteforce - letters only, non-caps, up to 8 letters - so at least we know what the password is not.
I still think we should work on the 3:45 thing, since this appears to be the only clue we have for this.

M.

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nadif-not logged in wrote:
Yes, quarteroffour.zip has probably a numeric, or alphanumeric, password. I tried some dictionaries and also bruteforce - letters only, non-caps, up to 8 letters - so at least we know what the password is not.
I still think we should work on the 3:45 thing, since this appears to be the only clue we have for this.

M.


I seem to recall reading somewhere that a quarter of four is when banks in Italy close for the day. Wouldn't that rather suggest that the name of the file has more to do with the information contained in the document?
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nadif-not logged in wrote:
Yes, quarteroffour.zip has probably a numeric, or alphanumeric, password. I tried some dictionaries and also bruteforce - letters only, non-caps, up to 8 letters - so at least we know what the password is not.
I still think we should work on the 3:45 thing, since this appears to be the only clue we have for this.

M.


I've been running a brute force crack against that zip file for the past few days. I did not have any success with a string of digits <= 10. So if it is just a number, it's 11 char long or longer.

I've also been running all lowercase alpha only and have eleminated all 8 char and less passwords and am 18% done with the 9 char passwords (I've run everything prior to f as the first char). At this rate, the 9 char space will be done in about 5 days. Hopefully we'll find a real solve for it before then.

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HitsHerMark wrote:
nadif-not logged in wrote:
Yes, quarteroffour.zip has probably a numeric, or alphanumeric, password. I tried some dictionaries and also bruteforce - letters only, non-caps, up to 8 letters - so at least we know what the password is not.
I still think we should work on the 3:45 thing, since this appears to be the only clue we have for this.

M.


I seem to recall reading somewhere that a quarter of four is when banks in Italy close for the day. Wouldn't that rather suggest that the name of the file has more to do with the information contained in the document?


Yes, in Italy banks used to close at 3:45 (I think that nowadays they have a not-so-fixed closing time, but probably most banks still close about this time), so this is a consistent coincidence. However, I'm not sure if this fact may give us a hint about the password, or if it's just a fact that has to do with the possible content of the file.
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Well, I hammered on it a bit, but didn't get very far.

using ktg01.txt as a key, splitting it into 10 segments and converting to decimal yields:
6
2
5
3
12
10
3
0
6
6

Taking these numbers "book cypher" against grammarworl.doc gives
"Rtoehum ri" which anagrams to several things, only a few of which I've tried. Rot yields nothing either.

FWIW

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nivra wrote:
If you take the checkbook values, and re-order them based on amount(low to high), and then look in the Category field, start on the 8th row down, and start reading diagonally downwards, from the first letter, you get:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Ian Nticn, which means nothing.
Just thought I'd share in the spirit of fruitless spoilers.

Hmmm, not so sure, if one reads your spoiler aloud (the C is capitalized, by the way!), one can make it sound like
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Ian EntiCing, or ian enticing, ianenticing, ianenticin' , Ian EntinCin' etc.

Hmmm ....

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