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Mikeyj
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[UPDATE] [SPEC] More Headlines
songofthephoenix wrote:
Zeller Evicts Reporters
Scott Defends Budget
Hospital Mulls Renovations
Crab Population Recovers
Petel in Surprise Win
Suit Filed Against Crispy Heaven
I think the time has come to pay some attention to these...more can be taken from them than at first glance, whether that's a puzzle or not. (There's a Zeller that's both alive and attracting attention from reporters for example)
Today's new one was:
Dog Saves Toddler
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:12 am
Mikeyj
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List of side headlines with dates attached, taken from the wiki mirror. The format of updating has changed. Initially all were changed, then some were inserted further down the list (galaxy discovery), and now they are dropping off the bottom as new ones are added at the top.
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New headline added: False Alarm at Ascendancy 13/04/05
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:38 am
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cassandra
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We already know about Alice Zeller from the small article "Judge Suspends Proceedings." But I'm hoping as well that there's something in the article heads. Thanks!
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:42 am
Mikeyj
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one in the eye for me
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:52 am
Mikeyj
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More more headlines
# Nuru Decision Upheld
# Thylacine Litter Born
# Drug Costs Dropping
The thylacine is the Tasmanian Wolf, Thylacinus cynocephalus the last animal died in captivity in 1936 and was officially declared extinct in 1986.
It's newsworthy so this is about as common an event as the birth of Pandas for example...so captive breeding program, or cloning?
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:35 am
erekose
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there was something in the australian news about people extracting DNA from a preserved thylacine corpse awhile back. There was alot of controversy about wether we should clone extinct creatures if we are capaple of doing so. we are fairly close to being able to do that, so perplexians might not be as far ahead of us in this field
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:31 am
Mikeyj
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You would need to have and extant organism that was closely related enough to play mum...the Thylacine was kind of unique in that although it was dog-like, it was in fact a marsupial, it's hard to think of something that would be suitable. Also it wouldn't really be a Thylacine as other parts of hereditary would be that of the host...for example the mitochondrial DNA.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:08 am
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Check out this on Thylacine cloning in Australia . Especially the Timeline at the end.
When I anagrammed the first letters of Foster Liddell's story I got "a omelet" and "a telome", which both have to do with biology in that the former requires an egg, and the latter is a well known theory (Telome Theory, Zimmerman) of plant evolution.
This is beginning to scare me about Perplex CIty. Maybe they don't just clone products, but also living things. Maybe getting a 'key' or 'sequence' allows one to be a PC citizen??? And also maybe, PC citizens are in a caste structure whereby the ordinary citizens a falling prey to the tyrannical devlopment and profit overlords, much as this would parallel Earth.
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:56 am
Mikeyj
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The man's a loon
loony wrote:
I can tell you what there was champagne corks popping and balloons everywhere. Because it works, the DNA is not dead its living DNA.
If I can make DNA "live" using PCR then I do so everyday. And a BAC library (Bacterial Artificial Chromosome) does not a Thylacine make...it's merely a stamp collection of genes. How he intends to construct Thylacine chromosomes from a random collection of individual clones I have no idea.
and more importantly...what's the point!! ...how can someone give him funding to do this?
*mikey becomes disillusioned with science and sobs in a corner*
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:06 pm
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They should just try to find some still living in Tasmania I take it - for i know nothing of this biochemistry stuff.
From: naturalworlds.org
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"The last of these beautiful animals, and thus the last thylacine in Europe, died on August 9, 1931; a female, it had been in Regent's Park (zoo) for almost six years, and a number of superb photographs of her have been preserved."
Say, that's just down the road form the Abbey Road Studios - isn't it?
On another note:
Seems to me there's something to do with aborigines and the Sirius Star System, a binary sytar system, the Dog Star. THe aborigines new it had a companion star thousands of years before anyone saw it with a telescope - and one of the pyramids has a shaft that looks up at this star at some time of the year.
Sorry for the winding thought pattern - but we keep seeing Australia items being pertinent to the PC mystery . . .
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 12:41 pm
InspJJ
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Slightly more frightening, our press carried reports recently of the imminent cloning of good ole T Rex from some preserved DNA - I know it is highly unlikely but so was Dolly the Sheep a few years back....
They would do it as a small version at first for reasons of safety, they some kid would get bored and flush one down the toilet and next thing you'd have herds of them coming back up the u-bend invading your personal privacy with a nasty nip...
On a saner note I'd rather they cloned endangered species than some fat balding business tycoon with an immortality complex...
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:39 pm
uptownishnyc
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Another thought on the thylacines--
We know the Perplexians are more advanced then us, and could probably have cloned an extinct animal from DNA...
But, why would it neccissarily be exinct in Perplex City? Might be rare, sure, but why extinct? And if it truly is a DIFFERENT world, how would they come up with the same name for the same animal before they ever discovered Earth (thinking of course that they had discovered the animal long before the few last years with knowledge of "earth")?
Or did they somehow clone OUR extinct species in their world? Maybe with the help of the cube itself?
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:55 pm
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UptownishNY said:
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We know the Perplexians are more advanced then us, and
Right - we haven't yet cloned this animal here on Earth. If they see other planets too then likely they acquire info from all worlds and weave that into who they are as a 'culture.' Both in commercial products and in DNA.
Or there might not be a cube - sente might just be the way they trick us into looking for a cube while they catalog our species and then they destroy us. But if that happens we still have some time left
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:05 pm
leakingpen
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actually, you could raise it in an artificial womb, as for mitochondrial, we have several that were preserved in alchohol. you could introduce mitochondria that way.
the big issue would be learned behaviors of the pups / lack thereof
say..
is it possible that the key is a device that does a quick genetic breakdown, via a quick sting or skin cells? thus verifiying you.
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:55 pm
uptownishnyc
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leakingpen wrote:
actually, you could raise it in an artificial womb, as for mitochondrial, we have several that were preserved in alchohol. you could introduce mitochondria that way.
the big issue would be learned behaviors of the pups / lack thereof
Fair enough on the cloning-- I guess I'm more "perplexed" about the newsworthiness of the resurrecting of an extinct earth species that 80% of the popluation of earth hasn't heard about. A detail that is a bit suprising for a culture that has apparently just started within the last few years studying earth. Why that species, how would THAT be the detail that was newsworthy society-wide? Usually when something is new to study you focus on the NOW! not the topic like the 80 years-ago-wolf-like-marsupial-limited-to-one-continent. Doesn't so much seem like an IT topic for a society that is so focused on the shoes/Alice in Wonderland/anything you can buy in a store and whatnot. I would think the academy would be focused on the next big earth movement. We already know that there are stores devoted to earth-like goods in Perplex City. Why focus on one small segment of the past. If you are cloning extinct species, why not clone something that was known significantly earth-world-wide-- say the Dodo-- that is more likely to be found in a general search of a world's culture
Perhaps the world of the Perplexians is more of a divergent world that started from our world. The do look human, they speak english (possibly-- could be translated), they use Latin in newspaper headlines (see above i.e. -If I were writing a newspaper headline in a different language that had no basis in latin, I would have created a word for the extinct marsupial. That, via web/english translator software would read as an approximation to English without a Latin base-- like "Litter of Wolfe Marsupials Born" not an exact latin name).
So just a thought going back to the original video-- at what point did our cultures divulge? I'm curious. After this headline, especially, I don't think the Perlexians are that far removed from us at all.
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 3:31 am
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