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dmax
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Damn bots! They're in league together.

It's Colossus and Guardian all over again!!!!!!

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That sounds like something HITLER would say!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:14 pm
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Geist
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Here is the little bit of info i got.

urbanman202: you seem to be going though parts of the alchemy stages with your emergence and transforming.
turingprinciple: You think I am going though parts of the alchemy stages with TuringPrinciples emergence and transforming .
turingprinciple: yes you are observant

As I found this page http://www.almac.co.uk/personal/tidmaraj/paper2.htm

Which takes about emergence and transforming, alchemy as well as Avalon
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dmax
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Geist wrote:

As I found this page http://www.almac.co.uk/personal/tidmaraj/paper2.htm

Which takes about emergence and transforming, alchemy as well as Avalon


But what does any of that have to do with this story?

Wink
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Geist, that's a great site. It ties together a lot of things. This whole story is about tansforming and emerging.

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Myssfitz
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The word alchemy is derived from the arabic 'Al Kimiya', used in the Islamic world to denote not only the art of producing the elixir or philosopher's stone but also the substance or medium of transformation.


There's that word again-elixir. Which I still thinks refers to the "Elixir of Immortality" which the Numbered Ones are trying to protect. Very Happy
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Steffeny
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Hidden story of Alchemy

dmax wrote:
Geist wrote:

As I found this page http://www.almac.co.uk/personal/tidmaraj/paper2.htm

Which takes about emergence and transforming, alchemy as well as Avalon


But what does any of that have to do with this story?

Wink


See my message about the planetary symbols and alchemy. The symbols can also be used to represent different metals.
Lead, Copper, Tin, Gold, Silver.... MERCURY

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dmax wrote:
Geist wrote:

As I found this page http://www.almac.co.uk/personal/tidmaraj/paper2.htm

Which takes about emergence and transforming, alchemy as well as Avalon


But what does any of that have to do with this story?

Wink


Well thats what I want one of you smart people to tell me. Wink

I just though alchemy was transformation of base metal's into gold. Yet seems there is also a mystical side that involes the soul reaching celestial sphere. Myssfitz noticed that elixir has popped up again and farther down the page it has:

In the Sufi tradition the stone or elixir was regarded as a state of mind. In Sufi development the seeker has to pass through seven stages of preparation, these stages called 'men' are degrees of transmutation of consciousness.

This led me to go to http://www.alchemylab.com/secret_fire.htm and talking to turingprinciple get this
urbanman202: what is secret fire?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secret fire - secure knowledge node accessed
turingprinciple: http://www.neothought.com/sknsf.html
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Shelina
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Great work!!
TP told me someone had found a new keyword but didnt told me which one or who found it Razz

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Elijah Snow
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Has anyone tried "philosopher's stone" as a keyword?

Also, what does everyone think of starting a "sticky" thread that shows keywords found, TP responses, and links?

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Shelina
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There is already a thread in the Puzzle section with all the keywords found

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Elijah Snow
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Prometheus stole the sacred fire from the gods. It might be worth trying with TP.

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StarkRavingMad
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Elijah Snow wrote:
Prometheus stole the sacred fire from the gods. It might be worth trying with TP.


It took me about 8 tries to get an answer:

Quote:

SRavingM: What do you know about Prometheus?
turingprinciple: Prometheus was the son of Iapetos and Klymene. His name means "Forethought". Prometheus was a god long before Zeus took the Throne of Eternity. He fought for Zeus against the devising Kronos, but Prometheus never had true respect for Zeus. He feared that the new Olympians had no compassion for each other or the mortals on the earth below.
turingprinciple: After the fall of Kronos, Zeus took no interest in the mortal race of men on the bountiful earth, he intended for them to live as primitives until they died off. Zeus said that knowledge and divine gifts would only bring misery to the mortals and he insisted that Prometheus not interfere with his plans.
turingprinciple: In spite of Zeus' warning, Prometheus took pity on the primitive mortals and gave them divine gifts: brickwork, woodworking, telling the seasons by the stars, numbers, the alphabet (for remembering things), yoked oxen, carriages, saddles, ships and sails. He also gave other gifts: healing drugs, seercraft, signs in the sky, the mining of precious metals, animal sacrifice and all art. Most imprtantly, Prometheus had stolen fire from Zeus and given it to the mortals in their dark caves. The gift of divine fire unleashed a flood of inventiveness, productivity and, most of all, respect for the immortal gods in the rapidly developing mortals.


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Valas
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Elijah Snow wrote:
Has anyone tried "philosopher's stone" as a keyword?

Also, what does everyone think of starting a "sticky" thread that shows keywords found, TP responses, and links?

ES


It discussed said stone with Dashcat. No keyword then.

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Valas wrote:
Elijah Snow wrote:
Has anyone tried "philosopher's stone" as a keyword?

Also, what does everyone think of starting a "sticky" thread that shows keywords found, TP responses, and links?

ES


It discussed said stone with Dashcat. No keyword then.


I asked it again. It even corected where I put the apostrophe'
like so

Philosophers' Stone

i.e. Not one Philosopher, but all philosophers.

Hmmm... a stone is round... and a moving stone gathers no moss...

What do humans have that is round and moves...

An Active Mind.
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