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Caterpillar
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Quote:
there's a spot around which they all center

nine to one, but how to enter?

if the first seven leave and there sit but two

reverse the pair, turn the paper blue


Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Base 36 = CIPHER


PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:12 pm
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Caterpillar
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http://www.mythosphere.org/cipher.html


Gotta choose sides folks!

Discussion moved over to Puzzle Section.

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Valas
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cemgate2002 wrote:
It's been a while since High School Chem. But it looks like the 3 OH 7 in your search results are part of chemical compounds.
(i.e. The first hit - CH 3 OH 7- May mean CarbonHydrogen 3Atoms/Molecules OxygenHydrogen 7Atoms/Molecules).

As I said it's been a loooooong time, maybe someone who knows chem. can take a look.

~cem


C = -4
H = +1
O = -2

So CH3 is possible, but it leaves a negative charge, unless a double bridge was formed.

OH 7.. Not sure that can be formed. OH in itself also has a negative charge. Remember it's H20 to make water and to neutralize the negative charge/acidity.

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KyraB
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 		Help the needy....
Cemgate wrote:
Quote:

there's a spot around which they all center
nine to one, but how to enter?
if the first seven leave and there sit but two
reverse the pair, turn the paper blue

Spoiler:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Base 36 = CIPHER


I know I'm being a big dork, but how did you get
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Base 36?
and then how does that turn into
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
cipher
? Give me a whop along the head cuz I'm thrown for a loop. Thanks, KyraB

and btw, whollop me a good one for forgetting to put spoiler tags around MY schpiel...ugh. Any help would be good right now. thanks.

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Caterpillar
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Using the number 757016163.0

there's a spot around which they all center (the decimal point)

nine to one, but how to enter? (nine #s on one side, one on the other)

if the first seven leave and there sit but two (take away the first 7 digits=63.0)

reverse the pair, turn the paper blue (36.0, Blue litmus paper turns red if it touches an acid; red litmus paper turns blue if it touches a base)

If you go here:
http://www.efunda.com/units/base_n.cfm

and plug in 757016163, hit GO!, and scroll down the list to Base36. It says Cipher.


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KyraB
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Thank you very much Cem...not sure if it's the hour or just that I'm too uneducated to get this...thanks for the explanation...now if i could only get why you left
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the 6 and the 3
specifically and not any of the others? Argh! I think I'll never be useful in this game! Embarassed KyraB

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Caterpillar
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 		Because it said "If the first seven leave". Take away the first seven digits and you're left with two. Smile

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dmax
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cemgate2002 wrote:
Because it said "If the first seven leave". Take away the first seven digits and you're left with two. Smile


So I"m trying to figure out how we were supposed to solve that in the first place, without the hint, and it looks like we were supposed to use that page and code in the numbers and then, at the very bottom, we'd see "cipher."

The problem was that I was using the unfiction online tool that converts bases, dangit. The page you pointed towards is much more useful...

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That sounds like something HITLER would say!

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grumpyboy
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 		so the "do not look" in the source was a total red herring? Shocked

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dmax
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grumpyboy wrote:
so the "do not look" in the source was a total red herring? Shocked

Well, it DID say do not look...

(But I'm still not convinced...)
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Steffeny
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cemgate2002 wrote:
It's been a while since High School Chem. But it looks like the 3 OH 7 in your search results are part of chemical compounds.
(i.e. The first hit - CH 3 OH 7- May mean CarbonHydrogen 3Atoms/Molecules OxygenHydrogen 7Atoms/Molecules).

As I said it's been a loooooong time, maybe someone who knows chem. can take a look.

~cem


CH3OH is Methanol. there is no way to get those 7 hydrogens around the Oxygen atom. - Is it chemically possible? there are only 5 electrons in the outer valence of the Oxy to bond with and one of those is taken by the methyl group- you could concievably cram a few additional hydrogen naked ions on it, but between unstable charge and the bulkiness of the thing, I don't think it would last very long, it would be highly reactive.

However I was thinking of the Citric cycle (once called Kreb's cycle, now called something else, Oxalate cycle I think) which uses hydrocarbons as the carriers in the production of cellular energy, ATP and NADPH+, releasing Carbon Dioxide and Water as the waste products.

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