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[LOCKED] [update] I HAVE A PARCEL!
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Ranger D
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Sep7imus wrote:
Djrazz wrote:

anyway .... how many people are going to call internations phone #'s to play a game
thats gonna cost even more money then the playing cards it's the whole thing that has me upset


Look, the other ARGs have been predominantly US based, and the rest of the world got much more limited participation. In ilovebees which required a lot of location-specific activity, all of the payphones were in the U.S. If this one works the other way, so be it. There is clearly a large online component, so we can all enjoy that.

Also, I suspect that the foreign-to-the-UK addresses will just take longer to get their parcels. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.


You are incorrect when stating that all the phones in ilovebees were in the US. There was one in London, Australia and I *think* even France. You would do well to follow the advice in your sig. Smile

However, ILB was still a largely US-centric game, and if Perplex City is going to be more "UK"-centric, I'm totally cool with that. More power to ya. I must admit that I was a little erked about getting Sente's email at 4am, but I got plenty of action in San Francisco playing ILB. So guess it's only fair. Wink
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 		unless you live in ohio the most worthless place on planet earth and you can't afford to move in that case yaeah it matters ...unless you drive for 4 days


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Ranger D wrote:

You are incorrect when stating that all the phones in ilovebees were in the US. There was one in London, Australia and I *think* even France. You would do well to follow the advice in your sig. Smile

However, ILB was still a largely US-centric game, and if Perplex City is going to be more "UK"-centric, I'm totally cool with that. More power to ya. I must admit that I was a little erked about getting Sente's email at 4am, but I got plenty of action in San Francisco playing ILB. So guess it's only fair. Wink


Yeah, I thought I remembered discussion about one phone each in London (did they ever actually find it?) and Australia. I don't remember one in France. I was being overly simplistic. Embarassed Nonetheless, what I do remember was a lot of angry/frustrated non-US-residents who wanted a more direct way to interact with the game, so if the shoe is on the other foot now, well, that seems only fair.
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tanner wrote:
could the numbers be a countdown? -- like first got 333 then 332 --- last got 1


That makes a lot more sense. I posted my answer as soon as the site went live and I'm 328! Of course it could just be random. Initials are JA if that is any help.

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Sep7imus wrote:
Yeah, I thought I remembered discussion about one phone each in London (did they ever actually find it?) and Australia. I don't remember one in France. I was being overly simplistic. Embarassed Nonetheless, what I do remember was a lot of angry/frustrated non-US-residents who wanted a more direct way to interact with the game, so if the shoe is on the other foot now, well, that seems only fair.


Doesn't that seem like a lateral move at best? Instead of having your ARG focus on one continent or the other, why not make some progress and go for a game that is equally accessible to all (all english speakers anyway). I think at this point, with so many fans in the UK, US, Canada, and Australia (and hell, maybe even Ireland) that any game that doesn't cater equally to all will be considered limited at best, and flawed at worst. Yes, I think our community is at that point.

And I think this is exactly the kind of game that can succeed in being truly global. As far as we know at least, PC does not exist to promote anything other than itself. I 100% understand why ILB was largely a stateside enterprise, because the US is where 90%+ of the profit from Halo 2 was going to be made. It was a "corporate" venture. But Perplex City can sell its puzzle cards (and whatever else they come up with) anywhere in the world and there will be no intrinsic value in targeting one geographic location at the expense of another. The Perplex City experience is the product, not some movie or video game. (And I hope that remains true.)

On a related line... I think that it would be wise for the PMs to sell their puzzle cards online in a digitized format (in addition to card packs). Yeah, it's nice to have a physical card to look at, but they would probably make more $$$ selling card images (zero production cost, zero materials cost, faster delivery/instant gratification) despite the resistance people would have to shelling out money for a jpeg. I think a lot of us appreciate that card sales are a necessary profit center that enables the PMs to make the game worthwhile from their point of view.
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 		I think most of the cards are going to be digitized pretty quickly after release anyway. All of them have so far. So it would be pretty hard to get people to pay when they could recieve a scan or a copy on a forum. All of the cards so far have been posted. I think people will be happier shelling out for Real Objects, I know I prefer it.
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Marduk wrote:




On a related line... I think that it would be wise for the PMs to sell their puzzle cards online in a digitized format (in addition to card packs). Yeah, it's nice to have a physical card to look at, but they would probably make more $$$ selling card images (zero production cost, zero materials cost, faster delivery/instant gratification) despite the resistance people would have to shelling out money for a jpeg. I think a lot of us appreciate that card sales are a necessary profit center that enables the PMs to make the game worthwhile from their point of view.


yeah that would be fair as long as they aren't charging $5 for 6 pictures
most of you uk people don't realise thats like an hours wage for some of us state side makeing playing a game like this very expesive and difficult
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Marduk wrote:
Sep7imus wrote:
Yeah, I thought I remembered discussion about one phone each in London (did they ever actually find it?) and Australia. I don't remember one in France. I was being overly simplistic. Embarassed Nonetheless, what I do remember was a lot of angry/frustrated non-US-residents who wanted a more direct way to interact with the game, so if the shoe is on the other foot now, well, that seems only fair.


Doesn't that seem like a lateral move at best? Instead of having your ARG focus on one continent or the other, why not make some progress and go for a game that is equally accessible to all (all english speakers anyway). I think at this point, with so many fans in the UK, US, Canada, and Australia (and hell, maybe even Ireland) that any game that doesn't cater equally to all will be considered limited at best, and flawed at worst. Yes, I think our community is at that point.

And I think this is exactly the kind of game that can succeed in being truly global. As far as we know at least, PC does not exist to promote anything other than itself. I 100% understand why ILB was largely a stateside enterprise, because the US is where 90%+ of the profit from Halo 2 was going to be made. It was a "corporate" venture. But Perplex City can sell its puzzle cards (and whatever else they come up with) anywhere in the world and there will be no intrinsic value in targeting one geographic location at the expense of another. The Perplex City experience is the product, not some movie or video game. (And I hope that remains true.)
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Well spoken, Marduk.
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 		Thank you. Cool
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most of you uk people don't realise thats like an hours wage for some of us state side makeing playing a game like this very expesive and difficult


Erm, i think thats a generalisation about us 'uk people'. I earn minimum wage and I am guessing if I really wanted to buy the cards, of which I am happy to look at scans at the moment, I would pay for them.

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 		Yes, that would be a lateral move at best. And yes, I do think that PC can and should do better. I was just pointing out that it's not unprecedented for geography to get in the way of people's participation (some US residents were starting to sound kind of ticked-off), and that it would be even worse, in my opinion, if the same geographically privileged people always got to play.

Luckily, I'm convinced that this will be worldwide and that no-one is going to be excluded! yay!
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most of you uk people don't realise thats like an hours wage for some of us state side makeing playing a game like this very expesive and difficult


Erm, i think thats a generalisation about us 'uk people'. I earn minimum wage and I am guessing if I really wanted to buy the cards, of which I am happy to look at scans at the moment, I would pay for them.


just to satisfy my own personal curiosty what is minmum wage in the uk
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 		Its £4.50 for people under 22 yrs old, over 22 is £4.85.

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 		I was excitied to get my parcel and wonder if we were going to be able to interact but if everyone got the same thing there's not much chance of swapping cards etc.
My first thought once i had calmed down a bit (because it was exciting) was so "this is the hook- this is the thing they were trying to sell all along". and my second was "I wonder how much I would get on ebay for this". Very cynical.
It's like finding out there is no santa (oops sorry to our younger readers). But if there are still online bits to play I will - just like you all say is it worth 2.50 for every six cards when theres going to be maybe 250 of them?
Sentes number on my letter is 120=D
Also The perplexcity website has changed- but theres no way to enter answers Sad

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 		Minimum wage uk:
Age over 22 - £4.85
Age 18 - 22 - £4.10
Age 16 or 17 - £3
Under 16 - not entitled to any minimum wage

Also, remember that the cost of living in the UK is pretty high, especially in certain areas. So the minimum wage in one area is worth much less than in another area.

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