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Caterpillar
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greywethers email AUG17

It all started here with an email from greywethers:
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From: <whitehouse@greywethers.net>

To: <dale@synthasia.com>

Subject: again

Date: 17 August 2003


AMNQE YAYMR CMGGO GJLFD HJSKR NTIGH EQRJP JXNQQ WGUTL BIISE GBHUJ RYHGU ACXZF FST

Nudge from TP:
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turingprinciple: One of Trithemius' methods used a table of advancing alphabets and the message was encrypted by advancing each successive letter by one additional space. The first letter is not advanced at all, so AMN would be A L L.


Solve:
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all nature is but art unknown to thee all chance direction which thou canst not see
From: An Essay on Man by Alexander Pope


Leads to:
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http://www.greywethers.net/pope.htm


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Numbers correspond to lines of Pope's An Essay on Man: Epistle I. Taking the first letter of each line leads to www.greywethers.net/secretgarden.htm

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Which is:

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a painting called "The Magic Garden" by Johan de Meij.

http://www.euronet.nl/~amsmusic/toelicht/garden.htm

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On a roll:

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The hidden message embedded in the image reads "All souls do not remember the things of the other world." This is a quote from Plato, which leads to:

www.greywethers.net/plato.htm


I haven't been following the game too closely, so not 100% sure this is the right path, has this page been used before? If not, then good luck to whoever wants to tackle this!!
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wtg jimmy, but can you tell us how u found the hidden message in the painting?

and i think the painting is the paul klee one: http://www.guggenheimcollection.org/site/artist_work_md_75_38.html

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grumpyboy wrote:
wtg jimmy, but can you tell us how u found the hidden message in the painting?

and i think the painting is the paul klee one: http://www.guggenheimcollection.org/site/artist_work_md_75_38.html


You can actually read it but rather than:
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All souls do not remember the things of the other world it reads: All souls do not easily recall the things of the other world.
Same diff. though. Smile

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Grumpy, could be Klee, the de Meij page says that he based his painting upon one of the same name by Klee. I can't see much of a difference between the two.

As for the hidden message, on my computer the image is almost pixelated, with letters of various colours making up the picture. Some words are easy to pick out, others are almost impossible. But the quote repeats over and over again, so you just have to find a part of the painting where the part of the quote you know leads into a visible version of the part you don't.
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ah, ok i see it now, thanks...

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Cem: thanks for the correction, I guess I was too eager to post and didn't double check! Embarassed
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This next one looks like a doozy...do you think because of what we just heard from TP in regards to Trithemius we may have to use the same method (only with numbers)?

I notice that there are a lot more instances of a three digit numbers though.

Jimmy: N/P...like I said, same diff. Smile

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cemgate2002 wrote:
This next one looks like a doozy...do you think because of what we just heard from TP in regards to Trithemius we may have to use the same method (only with numbers)?


And will it have to be separated into the groups of numbers we can see and the group of numbers we can't see?
Select all in the page, there are a lot more numbers....
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Selecting the whole page I think is just to see the word. I'm hoping all those extra numbers are just a red herring.
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That big ole thing? It's just one number.

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MageSteff
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konamouse wrote:
Selecting the whole page I think is just to see the word. I'm hoping all those extra numbers are just a red herring.


In other words we are supposed to see the numbers 88 in the e and the s?
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C'mon guys, is anybody working in the Plato puzzle? any ideas?
I've been looking through ciphers using 5-digits groups, but I don't know what to do with the 3-digits goups...
Definetly I'm not good at puzles Embarassed

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