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[PUZZLE] grammarwork.txt {SD 3/family/gammarwork.txt}
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Manta
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[PUZZLE] grammarwork.txt {SD 3/family/gammarwork.txt}

/My Family/grammarwork.txt

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Grammar and Composition Homework - Capital Letters
Teacher: ___________ Date: __________ Student: ____________________

Directions: Number your answer sheet from 1 to 10. For each of the following problems, choose the correct one of two forms. After the proper number on your answer sheet write the letter of the correct form (a or b).

1. a. We spent the summer in Maine.
b. We spent the Summer in Maine.

2. a. He lives on Pine Street.
b. He lives on Pine street.

3. a. Are you going to the Senior Prom?
b. Are you going to the senior prom?

4. a. I will be a senior next year.
b. I will be a Senior next year.

5. a. I am taking Latin and Geometry.
b. I am taking Latin and geometry.

6. a. Is he a Frenchman?
b. Is he a frenchman?

7. a. We admired the cathedrals of europe.
b. We admired the cathedrals of Europe.

8. a. We spent our vacation in the North.
b. We spent our vacation in the north.

9. a. After that, we drove South for ten miles.
b. After that, we drove south for ten miles.

10. a. We parked our car on Thirty-fourth Street.
b. We parked our car on Thirty-Fourth Street.


If my 3rd grade english hasnt failed me... the answers are

1. a
2 a
3. a
4. a
5. a
6. a
7. b
8. a
9. b
10. a

Edit: title clarification -- Rowan
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:32 am
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hamatoyoshi
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I would say the answer to 5 is b.

I don't believe areas of studies are capitalized unless they describe languages or ethnicities (English or Asian), describe individual courses (Geography 200), or describe departments (Department of Anthropology).

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:23 pm
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nivra
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In American High Schools, which this homework seems to be talking about(cf. Senior Prom), geometry is usually considered a course name. For example, a typical math sequence is: Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II, Pre-Calculus

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:01 pm
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madam o'brien
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My answers are

1. a
2. a
3. a
4. a
5. a
6. a
7. b
8. a
9. b
10. b

So , I agree with the OP with everything but the last one. I'm not at all sure I'm right here but I think it should be "We parked our car on Thirty-Fourth Street."

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:32 pm
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nivra
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wow... everyone's answers are different. I get, "aaabaabbbb"

I consider Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior all capitalized.
It's been awhile since HS, so I may be wrong, but I thought they were class names, so therefore capitalized.

I consider north a direction, so "the north" is unspecific.

Thirty-Fourth, I'm not sure about, but I feel like the most common spelling is to capitalize both words.

Wow, who'd have thought there'd be such discrepancy in capitalization?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:02 pm
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hamatoyoshi
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I was wondering about that post pre-edit...

I would side with the original poster's evaluation of Thirty-fourth street being correct.

The Chicago Manual of Style 7.124 reads:

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How to capitalize hyphenated compounds in titles is often a question. A rule of thumb that usually proves satisfactory is (1) always capitalize the first element and (2) capitalize the second element if it is a noun or proper adjective or if it has eq ual force with the first element.

Do not capitalize the second element if (a) it is a participle modifying the first element or (b) both elements constitute a single word.


Thirty-fourth counts as a single word.

I can't find anything else but this site that says as much.

Of interesting note: tossing "We parked our car on Thirty-fourth Street." into Microsoft Word and running the grammar checker recommends Thirty-Fourth.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:17 pm
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hamatoyoshi
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nivra wrote:
In American High Schools, which this homework seems to be talking about(cf. Senior Prom), geometry is usually considered a course name. For example, a typical math sequence is: Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II, Pre-Calculus


Since I'm reading the thread reverse chronologically, I'm responding to this next...

You make a good point, and I can see in that context how what you are saying would be true. I know one majors in math rather than geometry, and I know many high schools have a class simply called "Geometry".

I would argue that without knowing the context, "Latin and geometry" is more likely to be correct. For example, if someone asked me what I was registered to take next quarter, I might say, "I'm taking accounting and history," as an illustration of the general fields of study rather than, "I'm taking Accounting 521N and History 308".

Carrying this over to the high school context I think this could be interpreted as being correct by the fact that most schools tend to have levels of a foreign language such as Latin I and Latin II, so that "Latin and geometry" are more likely to represent general fields of study rather than specific class names, though the specific class name and the area of study may in fact be identical.

It's really all semantics though. I doubt a single incorrect a or b will stop us from solving anything since we can simply switch to the other option and try again.

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 3:33 pm
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hamatoyoshi wrote:
It's really all semantics though. I doubt a single incorrect a or b will stop us from solving anything since we can simply switch to the other option and try again.


Well if we knew where to plug them in, there are only 1024 possible 10 bit words. That would be easy to test.

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two thoughts

I've been toying with a couple of different thoughts on how to attack this puzzle and thought that I would share them in case they spark any thoughts for anyone else.

The first is that the title of the puzzle is Capital Letters. As such I have started trying to play around with all of the Capital Letters that are on the page as well as just the Capital Letters from the various correct answers (both every one in each sentence (for example WandM in #1, as well as just the letter from the correct part of the answer i.e. M for #1). So far it hasn't gotten me too far but I thought I would throw it out there in case it sparked any ideas for anyone else.

The second thought is that I took the a and b answers and attempted to view them as binary numbers that I then compared to the binary string ktg03.txt. By assigning 0 for a and 1 for b I nearly had an identical match if I shift the answer over two spaces, the only problem is the answer to question 9 which doesn't match up. I have a feeling that this is trying to see a pattern where there isn't one but again I figured why not throw it out there just in case. See just below for what I'm talking about.
1100001010000010110010110011000111010000
__0000101010 - it's that last 1 for question 9 that doesn't seem to match up.

Anyway, I hope that one of these thoughts helps someone.

- C

PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:12 pm
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ShadowRuleZ
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Re: two thoughts

I thought maybe just using the capitals from the words in question, but that didn't get me anywhere (there are lik 5 s') and I also though maybe it was the words in question as well, but again, nothing. I don't think the answers from this file (abbbabwhatever) are important, but that's just a hunch/opinion.

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2005 7:21 pm
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nhansard
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Given that there has been some debate as to the correct answers to the questions, and the thought that the answer string might be the password to something. I took and made a list of all possible answer strings (10 bits, a or b). I've used this as the dictionary for a .zip password cracker and did not get a result for ppics2.zip or thingstocopy.zip. So either the ab-string is not the password to one of the outstanding files, or there is some sort of permutation on the string needed. I'll include my list of 10 digit (a|b) words for anyone who wants to mess with it.

-Nick
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 7:11 pm
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It's late and I'm tired but could this be a Bacon cipher? If I remember correctly Bacon ciphers are 5 characters long? So the solution to this would be two letters. I don't have a source for the Bacon cipher on this computer but I know Enaxor has a good one. I'm probably wrong here but this has always reminded me of the Bacon or Baconian Cipher.

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