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[danman_d]

I got a manuscript page today! Very pretty... See attachment to help decipher. Too bad I don't know Latin.

-Dan

[LazarusLong]

Here's a basic translation for the two blocks of text on dan's page (they're italian, BTW, not latin):

[Sunny du Pree]

Re: Manuscript pages

[Sin Vraal]

[Myssfitz]

[grumpyboy]

this is probably relevant to solving danman's manuscript page...

http://lullianarts.net/ars-brevis/ars-brevis.htm

note especially The Second Figure http://lullianarts.net/ars-brevis/ars-brevis-28.htm (even the colors of the triangle are the same)

and The Third Figure http://lullianarts.net/ars-brevis/ars-brevis-31.htm

[Shelina]

[Sin Vraal]

Additional Thought

[Myssfitz]

[Gupfee]

Using the info from Llull's figure 2, I have come up with the following for the Italian on Danny's mss. page. I'm not sure what it means, but figured I'd put it out there so other people can waste time staring at it like me.

The Italian seems to be in 17 pairs of words. I think the little dot graphic is just a separator, and I have noted it below as an asterick, *

TOP:
begin, middle * major, minor
contra, begin * middle, equal
major, minor * contra, end

BOTTOM:
differ, contra * begin, end
begin, end * end, minor
middle, major * differ, contra
end, equal * differ, concord
middle, equal * end, minor
begin, major

If you use the letters in Llull's diagram, you get the following pairs:

TOP:
e,f * h,k
d,e * f,i
h,k * d,g

BOTTOM:
b,d * e,g
e,g * g,k
f,h * b,d
g,i * b,c
f,i * g,k
e,h

Not sure how this relates to the symbols on the manuscript page. Also, the Llull figure is labelled "T" but the manuscript page has the same symbol in the middle of the triangle and on the top of the circle. WTF is that supposed to mean??

Frustrated.

Edited to add:

The grid on this page:
http://lullianarts.net/ars-brevis/ars-brevis-31.htm

is also on the manuscript page, and has 36 boxes, but there are only 34 letters in the Italian on the manuscript page, so I'm not sure if they correlate or not. Maybe one of Sarah's transcription "errors"?

[dashcat]

Dale chat: Clues to solving this page

[grumpyboy]

[grumpyboy]

clicking around the site brought us to http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp804.html

which has an email address... there's an error in the link, make sure u remove the extra "L" after the "@". no reply yet...

[Shelina]

Re: New Manuscript Page?

[Shelina]

Something else:

turingprinciple (15:17:46 ): Dale and I think the remaining manuscript page has something to do with Dante's Fourth Circle.

Looking for Dante's Fourth Cirlce I've found it was the place where avarice sin was punished. Still checking...