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Incitatus
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 		[Xbox 360] Halo 3?
Well I didn't believe it either. But Conflicting reports, some based on obsessive fanatics, and other based on rumors and "secret contacts" all seem to point to bungie currently working on the next and final installment of the franchise.

Most of the more reliable reports specifically those from IGN, indicate the game's release will be coordinated to coinside with the release of the PS3.

IGN:
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Halo 3 In Production
Yes, we have news about Halo 3. IGN learned last week while drinking secretly imported beers with its informants that Microsoft is prepared for the battle of its life in this upcoming console war. From what we understand, Bungie is hard at work on, not so surprisingly, Halo 3, which will be ready day and date with the launch of PlayStation 3.

So, while Bungie said it's working on something else, well, we have different news. Sure, the smart creative guys at Bungie are working on something else, but you had better bet your bottom dollar they're also working on the next Halo. The release of Halo 3 at the precise launch of PS3 is a pure, military tactical move, similar to the PS2's greatest lineup ever launching simultaneously with the launch of the Xbox and GameCube. It's designed to counter Sony's upcoming launch with the best weapon Earth has on its side, Master Chief. Go, John 117, go! Save Earth from Sony!


And for the rest of the speculation... I leave that to you all.
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 		Personaly I really dont think that Halo 3 will come out to match Playstation3. Its too soon for Bungie to put out a good game. I would think that Perfect Dark will easly hold the field while Bungie spends the time to make a good Halo3 that takes full advantage of XB360.
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 		Hmmmmmm Interesting..... I think that everyone (or maybe just me) thought that halo3 would be coming out on the next platform. The ending of halo2 gave it away.
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 		Re: [Xbox 360] Halo 3?
Incitatus wrote:
Most of the more reliable reports specifically those from IGN, indicate the game's release will be coordinated to coinside with the release of the PS3.


Wonder if the final line from H2 had a little more meaning than originally implied?
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 		I read this a while back and it took me a couple of hours to find it, but I finally did... here you go... and it is posted on MICROSOFT's WEBPAGE.

Link to full article.

Steve Ballmer, CEO, Microsoft Corporation wrote:

Microsoft Office System Launch
Orlando, Florida
October 21, 2003

....

We'll show you a capability inside the Office System today that delivers on what we call Information Rights Management. We're working on the next version -- I hate to tell you this confidentially but I'll have to swear you to secrecy now -- we're working on the next version of Xbox right now and we're working on Halo 2 and Halo 3, the two newest versions of the game.

Now, the plan for those things are super, super secret, top secret type stuff. I mean, they really are, in fact, because if you take a look at our competition with Sony it's a big chess game -- who's going to do what. And the team said, 'Look, we want to send out the documents about this, but we really only want them to go to very few people.' They sent those documents and the e-mail around that protected with Information Rights Management. I got the document. I couldn't print it. I was not allowed. They didn't give me permission to print it. I couldn't Print Screen it. They didn't want to give me permission to do that. I couldn't forward it and when I replied to it, it stripped everything out of the original e-mail so that there was not a trace, not a place for leakage in the system.

You might think they could trust me a little bit more -- (laughter) -- but the fact of the matter is as a guy who sends out mail to our employees and knows that it's immediately going to go to the Wall Street Journal, I can be somewhat sensitive to the notion that says we should be protecting our confidential information; big benefit already captured in the context of our own business.

......

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 		Heh.

I think it's too soon, too. I mean, Halo 2 just came out in November. I'm assuming that they're going to want Halo 3 to be mindblowing, so it just doesn't seem like enough time.

Wonder if they'll have 4orty2wo do a promotion when they do release it. (I'm still holding out for ILB2 -- Melissa vs. Cortana: Girls Gone Rampant! Wink )

Then again, probably not.
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Phaedra wrote:
Wonder if they'll have 4orty2wo do a promotion when they do release it. (I'm still holding out for ILB2 -- Melissa vs. Cortana: Girls Gone Rampant! Wink )


Oh boy I sure hope so. Very Happy

Seriously, i think it is a strong possibility. I mean Microsith has really gotten into the idea of ARGs. From ILB now to a semi-not-really-arg-but-is-in-spirit Our Colony. This sort of puzzel solving interactive promotion is really kicking off at Monstersoft. So I don't doubt another promo or 42 ARG is in the works.
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vector wrote:
Personaly I really dont think that Halo 3 will come out to match Playstation3. Its too soon for Bungie to put out a good game.


Yes, but that's assuming that the timing is based off of "when can we put out a good game" vs. "when do we need a well known game to release to get a competitive marketing edge". Seeing as how Bungie has openly admitted (in the bonus DVD) that they had to cut things in order to make the deadline they were given for Halo2, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Microsoft give them a Halo3 deadline based on when they want it, not based on when "the game that Halo3 is supposed to/can be" is ready. Such is the way of the marketing beast.
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Incitatus wrote:
Phaedra wrote:
Wonder if they'll have 4orty2wo do a promotion when they do release it. (I'm still holding out for ILB2 -- Melissa vs. Cortana: Girls Gone Rampant! Wink )


Oh boy I sure hope so. Very Happy

Seriously, i think it is a strong possibility. I mean Microsith has really gotten into the idea of ARGs. From ILB now to a semi-not-really-arg-but-is-in-spirit Our Colony. This sort of puzzel solving interactive promotion is really kicking off at Monstersoft. So I don't doubt another promo or 42 ARG is in the works.


Well, yes -- more than one, from what I understand.

But I wonder if Microsoft would do it for Halo 3. I kind of think not, since they already did one for Halo 2. And part of the fun with ILB was the whole "Is this actually connected to Halo?" mystery. That won't be there, if they do it again. Neither will the mystery of who's behind it. I think they might go a totally different route.

Plus, there's the question of would 4orty2wo want to do another Halo ARG. I think (and this is just what I think, not based on conversations from anyone with 4orty2wo) that creatively speaking, a sequel might not hold as much interest for them.
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 		Not to thread-jack, but I do have a fear there. How to put this...I have some similar feelings about a certain recent project (let's call it "far hall-in-me") that somewhat mirror my (and some others') feelings about a certain other past project that occurred (let's just call it "jenny's manga").

Not to revive an old discussion, I kinda have a worry with the future of ARG's. Bare with me, I will relate it as a parable:

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Once upon a time, there was a man named Ford who invented something totally new that he called it the car. A small group of early adapters really saw the potential in the car, and started making their own cars. Different developers made different cars, and some cars were superior to others (many feel that Ford still made the best of cars), but the invention was really blossoming. Now, cars drew different reactions from different people--some decried them as sham, others were scared of what evil they might be used for--but most who rode in a car loved the experience and wanted to go joyriding as much as possible.

Several years later, Ford made a car which made the nightly news because of its wild success in a certain race. Suddenly, early adapters were not the only ones seeing the potential of cars for transportation. Obviously, Ford's life would become easier, but a problem popped up. Instead of studying the existing cars to learn what works well and what doesn't, some people decided to make their own cars. After all, they thought, why pay all that money to hire Ford or to learn how a car works? We have wheels, we have metal, we have glass...let's do this ourselves! How hard could it be?

But cars were no simple invention. Some built things that looked exactly like cars, but were missing parts that were less visible to the casual observer...one car was missing an engine, another had no gearshift. A couple of folks took the time to study cars but they didn't have the know-how--their engines ended up exploding, their cars burnt to the ground.

Before you chuckle, remember this. The car is a good thing, and should probably become popular. What happens if a horse-and-buggy company makes a half-working car and sells it to thousands of people? Many could see the product as a true car and decide the invention is pure hype...and cars would become a fad. Or worse, Ford and the others who make quality vehicles might get run out of business by companies making car in-house or by those who can make monstrosities with no engine.


I have missed some great "cars" already, and I got to drive in a vehicle that showed me what a "car" can be. I have also had the misfortune spending quite a bit of time on a "car" that died in the middle of nowhere and just sorta sputters every three months now (I'll call that one "fable and luck").

Look, lots and lots of game developers are starting to and continuing to look at ARGs. If some (let's just be diplomatic and call them) creatively distinguished games are viewed as foundational...eek.

Thoughts?

Assuming you can read through my code...I'm like The Riddler over here!
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 		Bill Gates confirms Halo 3 to launch at the same time as the PS3. Time Magazine via Gamespot reports it here:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/15/news_6124592.html?part=rss&tag=gs_news&subj=6124592

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"Note to the hard-core faithful: the next version of Halo will not, repeat not, be ready in time for the launch of Xbox 360. It will be part of the all-important second wave next spring. 'It's perfect,' Gates says, radiant with bloodlust. 'The day Sony launches [the new PlayStation], and they walk right into Halo 3.'"


This really does absolutely nothing for me. I mean, am I the only person who thinks Halo 2 sucked? Halo 2 is the motivation I have for pirating Halo 3 in any way possible. I was once Bungie's demographic for their games. Since my tastes generally have not changed....

Gah! I should just stop posting about Halo 2. I just end up ranting about how much I hate the game. Sorry people.

/me is eagerly awating Andrew "bunnie" Huang's Hacking the Xbox 360 book.
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Phaedra wrote:
Heh.

I think it's too soon, too. I mean, Halo 2 just came out in November. I'm assuming that they're going to want Halo 3 to be mindblowing, so it just doesn't seem like enough time.

Wonder if they'll have 4orty2wo do a promotion when they do release it. (I'm still holding out for ILB2 -- Melissa vs. Cortana: Girls Gone Rampant! Wink )

Then again, probably not.


Sounds like a perfect opportunity for a pie fight.
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SuperJerms wrote:
Not to thread-jack, but I do have a fear there. How to put this...I have some similar feelings about a certain recent project (let's call it "far hall-in-me") that somewhat mirror my (and some others') feelings about a certain other past project that occurred (let's just call it "jenny's manga").

Not to revive an old discussion, I kinda have a worry with the future of ARG's. Bare with me, I will relate it as a parable:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Once upon a time, there was a man named Ford who invented something totally new that he called it the car. A small group of early adapters really saw the potential in the car, and started making their own cars. Different developers made different cars, and some cars were superior to others (many feel that Ford still made the best of cars), but the invention was really blossoming. Now, cars drew different reactions from different people--some decried them as sham, others were scared of what evil they might be used for--but most who rode in a car loved the experience and wanted to go joyriding as much as possible.

Several years later, Ford made a car which made the nightly news because of its wild success in a certain race. Suddenly, early adapters were not the only ones seeing the potential of cars for transportation. Obviously, Ford's life would become easier, but a problem popped up. Instead of studying the existing cars to learn what works well and what doesn't, some people decided to make their own cars. After all, they thought, why pay all that money to hire Ford or to learn how a car works? We have wheels, we have metal, we have glass...let's do this ourselves! How hard could it be?

But cars were no simple invention. Some built things that looked exactly like cars, but were missing parts that were less visible to the casual observer...one car was missing an engine, another had no gearshift. A couple of folks took the time to study cars but they didn't have the know-how--their engines ended up exploding, their cars burnt to the ground.

Before you chuckle, remember this. The car is a good thing, and should probably become popular. What happens if a horse-and-buggy company makes a half-working car and sells it to thousands of people? Many could see the product as a true car and decide the invention is pure hype...and cars would become a fad. Or worse, Ford and the others who make quality vehicles might get run out of business by companies making car in-house or by those who can make monstrosities with no engine.


I have missed some great "cars" already, and I got to drive in a vehicle that showed me what a "car" can be. I have also had the misfortune spending quite a bit of time on a "car" that died in the middle of nowhere and just sorta sputters every three months now (I'll call that one "fable and luck").

Look, lots and lots of game developers are starting to and continuing to look at ARGs. If some (let's just be diplomatic and call them) creatively distinguished games are viewed as foundational...eek.

Thoughts?

Assuming you can read through my code...I'm like The Riddler over here!


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 		Whether or not there's an ARG coming with Halo 3, I can say I am damned excited to hear that it is coming along, and wil no doubt purchase a 360 for it.

Who knows what they do, though. A new Halo book, maybe? Maybe another "cortana letters" type thing, "transmissions" of game shorts sent from an AI somehow or another.
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 		I'm with Weephun here. It would be too soon if Bungie were starting from scratch, like they did with halo2. I don't know if it came from bungie's mouth, but I kept reading that halo2 would end the war with the covenant and it obviously didn't. So I believe there are pieces of halo3 ready to be adapted to x360. Since we don't know when PS3 is going to be released, bungie might have more than 1 year of develpment time. If you watch the halo2 making of movie, you'll see most of the game (if not all!!) was done during the last year of production.

About another ARG launch, I can only hope MS is smart enough to go to 4orty2wo for this. It would suck to get a poor man's ILB for the next chapter on the story!

And Grifter, good quote!! It's from 03!! Amazing!
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