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www.doctorilluminatus.com- Raymond Lull(y)
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 		www.doctorilluminatus.com- Raymond Lull(y)
Thanks again Grumpyboy. You are wonderful! Very Happy

So far, I have found these pages:
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/one.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/two.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/three.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/four.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/five.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/six.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/seven.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/eight.html

On the "eight" page, there are links. They are:

Blessed Teacher- http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp101.html
Secrets- http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp102.html
Doctor Illulminatus- http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp103.html
seven seals- http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp104.html
follows- http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp105.html

There should be the lettered star at the bottom too, but it doesn't show up for me.
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I had also found this awhile back. I thought I would put it on the same pages with the info about Raymond Lull. It's probably not important, but I never know. It may help out someone.

Raymon Lull
The beginning of Christian Kabbalah is to be found in the teachings of the Catalan philosopher and mystic, Raymon Lull (1232 - c.1316). Living in a region where the Catholic Church was dominant, but a large part of the land was still under the rule of Moslem Arabs, and the Jews made an important contribution to the culture, Lull had the idea of unifying all three religions by developing a philosophy incoporating elements common to all. And although Lull's ultimate aim was still conversion of the heathens to Christianity, rather than simply tolerance and search for truth for its own sake, the way he intended to convert was through rational and mystical doctrine, rather than the tortues that the Church was to employ so efficently and brutally some two centuries later.

Lull based his Art on the importance which Christian, Moslem, and Jew each attached to the Divine Names or Attributes, or, as he called them, Dignities. Lull mentioned nine Dignities (or Dignitaries): Bonitas (Goodness), Magnitudo (Greatness), Eternitas (Eternity), Potestas (Power), Sapientia (Wisdom), Voluntas (Will), Virtus (Virtue), Veritas (Truth), and Gloria (Glory).

With a little juggling of the order we have all the Kabbalistic Sefirot bar the lowest one, Malkut or "Kingdom" (representing Creation itself):

Sefirah Dignatory
Keter (Crown; Divine Will) = Voluntas (Will)
Hokmah (Wisdom) = Sapientia (Wisdom)
Binah (Intelligence) = Veritas (Truth)
Hesed (Mercy, Love) = Bonitas (Goodness)
Gevurah (Strength) = Potestas (Power)
Tifaret (Beauty) = Virtus (Virtue)
Netzah (Endurance) = Eternitas (Eternity)
Hod (Majesty) = Gloria (Glory)
Yesod (Foundation) = Magnitudo (Greatness)

In addition we also find the incorporation of the four elements and the qualities, the seven planets and twelves signs, medicine, alchemy, geometry, a letter notation, and so on. There is an elaborate system of correspondences, in that the nine Dignitaries have their correspondences in the celestial sphere, the human level, and the animal, plant, and material creation.

In all this we see the influence, not only of Kabbalah, but also of Aristotlean categories, Augustinian Platonism (nearly all the Lullian Dignities can be found listed as Augustine's Divine Attributes), and the celestial hierarchies of angels of the Christian Neoplatonist Dionysius. [Frances A. Yates, The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age, pp.9-12].

Quote:
http://www.kheper.auz.com/topics/Kabbalah/ChristianKabbalah.htm
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 		Doctor Illuminatus missing links...
On page three.html the image doesn't show because the link is invalid (C|/My%20Documents/websites/llull/images/hnbcr.gif). I've tried to find this image in the pix directory with no luck. Anyone else found it?

Also page lfp802.html is missing. Here is the path (page and link word) that gets to that point:

http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/eight.html follows
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp105.html animal
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp204.html banner
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp402.html divide
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp502.html Illuminatus
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp602.html Father
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp702.html Theology
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp802.html ???

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 		for the 802 page, lfp802.htm without the "L" at the end works and i'm pretty sure the missing image on three.html is the top one on this page http://lullianarts.net/infusa/hand12.htm

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 		http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp701.html - How This Art is useful to You

Haven't seen it mentioned here yet.
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 		http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp201.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp202.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp203.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp205.html

http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp401.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp402.html

http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp501.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp503.html

http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp801.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp803.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp804.html
http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp805.html

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 		all the pages are:

101-105
201-205
401-402
501-503
601-602
701-702
801-805
(all inclusive, all prefixed with lfp and ending in .html)

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 		SPEC: ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME
I was talking way passed my bedtime with Driz, and we were kicking around TP's paths and the doctorilluminatus site... and I thought...

You know, no matter which letter of the star pattern you start with, no matter which path you follow, you still end up at the same place....

This is the snippet of conversation about it for those who might be interested:
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drizjr (11:48:09 PM): steff, http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp805.html source code has this.........

drizjr (11:49:31 PM): http://www.doctorilluminatus.com/lfp205.html has the same thing in the source code
Magesteff (11:50:29 PM): Um, the source code isn't showing up... open it in wordpad, they you can cut & paste
drizjr (11:51:01 PM): coords="149,3,166,28" href="two.html">
<more blank space>
drizjr (11:51:14 PM): can you see that?
Magesteff (11:51:33 PM): Yep(well at least the first bit), that means there is a link spot, only I could not find them
Magesteff (11:52:52 PM): the "two.html" referes to other pages on the site, each letter on the seven pointed star is a link, numbered two, three, four, five, six, seven and eight.
Magesteff (11:53:03 PM): dot html
drizjr (11:53:23 PM): so nothiing new then, right ? Smile
Magesteff (11:53:30 PM): Not much
drizjr (11:53:39 PM): lol
Magesteff (11:54:39 PM): I think it may be important because each of thos pages has links to the next series, i.e. lf101, 102, 105 etc.(someone has posted the correct format elsewhere)
Magesteff (11:55:02 PM): Meaning, it does not matter which path you are on, they all lead to the same place
drizjr (11:55:15 PM): oh, i see
Magesteff (11:55:50 PM): so having reached two or three of the TP paths, we really don't need to find more, we are already where we need to be.
drizjr (11:56:40 PM): oh, that's good to know Smile
Magesteff (11:56:48 PM): hmmmm.... now I will need to write that up as a spec Driz, you making more work for me on purpose?
drizjr (11:56:59 PM): lol
drizjr (11:57:29 PM): but we don't want people to stop looking for other pathways
Magesteff (11:57:50 PM): Why not? people are getting frustrated.
Magesteff (11:58:12 PM): If they can relax and just play with her things may go more smoothly
drizjr (11:58:24 PM): that's true
drizjr (11:59:20 PM): suppose TP won't send out the e-mails until we get all the pathways?
Magesteff (11:59:53 PM): We can't get all the pathways until TP sends out e-mails.
drizjr (12:00:06 AM): hmm
Magesteff (12:00:34 AM): Sure we can start on them, but we won't be able to finish them.

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grumpyboy wrote:
all the pages are:

101-105
201-205
401-402
501-503
601-602
701-702
801-805
(all inclusive, all prefixed with lfp and ending in .html)
and am I wrong in thinking that the portion of each page's source at the bottom is a remnant of the star file that we saw initially with links to the two.html, three.html etc pages? It seems useless, so I'm assuming it's simply a coding thing that got overlooked, as opposed to it being a useful piece of data.

I'm thinking ignore it.
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dmax wrote:
am I wrong in thinking that the portion of each page's source at the bottom is a remnant of the star file that we saw initially with links to the two.html, three.html etc pages? It seems useless, so I'm assuming it's simply a coding thing that got overlooked, as opposed to it being a useful piece of data.

I'm thinking ignore it.


Yeah, Drizjr and I saw it as well, couldn't find the matching links, as you said must be a left over from the template.
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