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[UPDATE] May 27 - Scarlett Kite - Scarlett on the radio!!
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Bno|Lzy
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Well it was good anyway - she sounded her age believe me, this is England!

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Leeravitz wrote:
1. The Perplexians have lost the Cube, but Sente is being honest when he maintains they still have the ability to pinpoint its location on Earth...

....3. Sente, having deduced the Cube's location, elects to try an unusual plan - to enlist the aid of the people who are actually *on* Earth in order to retrieve the Cube physically (?)

4. The best way to do this (?) is to code information as to its whereabouts to Earth beings through the traditional Perplexian mode of puzzles, encipherment etc...and Mind Candy will act as the 'go - betweens' for the set - up.


um, from what I heard it didn't say anything to this effect?
Scarlett said the electromagnetic trace could see it had gone to earth but they still didn't know exactly where it was, maintaining what they've said all along, in the Sentinel and what MC have said in interviews and on the Culture Show, no one (in game) knows exactly where it is.

So, as Scarlet said, they are trying to give us information about themselves through the puzzle cards in the hope that we will be able to see something they didnt and work out who took it. 6million heads better than one n all that (although I'm sure theres more than 1 person in PPC who are trying to work out where it is, and Id hazard that their heads had a slightly higher exchange rate to ours lol) To be fair she didnt exactly say that the info in the puzzle cards would lead to us solving the mystery of *where* the cube is, only who took it, but that ties in with what the instruction cards say, assumedly once we find out whoever took it, that info will lead us to work out where it is.

As for the interview, well many thanks to dopefiend for posting it up! I thought if anything she sounded younger than 19, not in voice but speech and mannerisms n stuff. Maybe a slightly older actress overcompensating? Was very surreal to be hearing her on the radio though, gonna go listen to the violet mp3 to compare voices now.

rach =)

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Leeravitz wrote:
there may be a physical 'treasure hunt' ahead of us in order to unearth the Cube...although I could still be wrong on that...


I just assumed this was the whole idea; the whole reward for finding the cube thing makes it pretty explicit doesn't it? surely a physical treasure hunt is exactly what this is...

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Do any of us know if there are likely to be 'follow up' broadcasts? As I said last post, there might, of neccessity, be more useful information given if Scarlett is talking to 'us' over a length of time...


According to my contacts, there will be follow up broadcasts "so long as Scarlett is able to do them."

By the way, I just want to make it clear that I hate using words like "contacts" and "source" cos it makes it sound like i'm trying to pass myself off as some kind of know-it-all insider... but I'm just trying to keep it non-specific!! sorry!
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Hey ho, I should have listened to the broadcast proper, I suppose!! Smile

But I was most intrigued by the talk of the electromagnetic tracing - I didn't think that Sente had been that specific as to *how* the Academy had deduced that the Cube had gone to earth previously (although I may have missed this). What do we think he (or Scarlett) implies in saying that the trace can be detected? What does it imply about any likely properties harboured within the Cube? Or do we think the tracking system has nothing to do with the Cube per se, but is the sort of widespread 'tagging' of objects utilised within the City generally?

Does it imply that the Cube exists as physical object or as data? And I *know* we've discussed lots of this kind of thing already - so the question is specific: does knowing about the involvement of electromagnetism indicate anything new to anyone?? Trout this if you feel we've been down this path before...

It is fascinating as well that the implication appears to be that the game is about:

1. Solving the puzzle cards.
2. Using the solutions to the puzzle cards (or clues contained within them?)
to decipher the identity of the thief.
3. Then (somehow) deducing from this (and other data?) where the Cube is hidden (either physically or hypothetically).

It *does* suggest that the cards may take on more relevance than we were according them previously...and that all our attempts to trawl through e.g. Sentinel background may be otiose, if the 'identity' of the thief is to be revealed through clues given in the cards, rather than a direct process of deduction.

Well, well, well...not sure how I feel about that (if it's true...)

As to Scarlett's age, as an actor, I think it fair to say: you can't get the staff these days!
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Leeravitz wrote:
But I was most intrigued by the talk of the electromagnetic tracing - I didn't think that Sente had been that specific as to *how* the Academy had deduced that the Cube had gone to earth previously (although I may have missed this). What do we think he (or Scarlett) implies in saying that the trace can be detected?


My first thought when hearing this on the radio program was, "if they can trace it using EM properties, why can't they send us the schematics for a similar tracing device to be used on Earth?"
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BriEnigma wrote:
Leeravitz wrote:
But I was most intrigued by the talk of the electromagnetic tracing - I didn't think that Sente had been that specific as to *how* the Academy had deduced that the Cube had gone to earth previously (although I may have missed this). What do we think he (or Scarlett) implies in saying that the trace can be detected?


My first thought when hearing this on the radio program was, "if they can trace it using EM properties, why can't they send us the schematics for a similar tracing device to be used on Earth?"


I thought the same thing... I even thought we were somehow capable of it here on earth...

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Perhaps the device they use to detect has to be able to pluck the precise frequency out of whatever background noise there is. There's no gaurantee that they use the same measurements for this that we do.

Or, it could involve some of their more advanced computer technologies to actually detect and locate the Cube's field. They may not be ready to give us such a technoloical boost just yet.

Or, it could involve a massive amount of physical infrastructure (that they just happened to already have built) and we wouldn't be able to construct it fast enough to be useful.

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Precisely. But is there any likely thing we can tell about the Cube's properties by virtue of the fact that it can give off an electromagnetic trace - does this give any indication as to what it might be constructed of, whether it has any significant generative (even organic??!) components etc.??!
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Leeravitz wrote:

It is fascinating as well that the implication appears to be that the game is about:
1. Solving the puzzle cards.
2. Using the solutions to the puzzle cards (or clues contained within them?)
to decipher the identity of the thief.
3. Then (somehow) deducing from this (and other data?) where the Cube is hidden (either physically or hypothetically).


I'm not sure I agree that we'll decipher the indentity of the theif from the cards, I might have been listening to it wrong but I got the impression that the cards are more to build up the Perplexians trust in us and our intelligence. They can't give us clues in the cards if they don't know who stole the Cube.

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Quite right Violet...as has been stated many times, the cards (the Hon interview for example) are there to flesh things out, and aren't a necessity for finding the cube. It's not pay to play.
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Wow... radio now, eh?

Anyone feel up to posting a transcript of it (either here or on the wiki)?

Damned public PC while mine is being serviced, can't listen to mp3's.

Cheers in advance Smile
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That's fine. I was trying to sum up what I thought the summary of the radio broadcast suggested!

I agree that Adrian seems to make it fairly plain that cards and mystery are two separate things. But that's also why I was phrasing things carefully. I don't know if it's possible that the cards wouldn't, say, reinforce certain clues that we'd be able to come across in other ways.

True, from the business side of things OOG, it makes most sense to have the two things distinct: that way, cards can be enjoyed for their own sake by those who may be less committed to the ARG, and the ARG community won't have to feel up in arms about being forced to 'pay to play'.

I suppose my worry is that, already, we have no firm release date for the cards, and we may end up in a situation where, having solved the majority of cards to the best of our abilities, we're actually no nearer to getting into the meat of the ARG.

I suppose I'm just reluctant to concede that, however much fun the puzzles on the cards may be to solve, they are simply there as a 'stalling action' for a few months, so that MC can earn a bit more capital to plough back into the game, and give themselves a bit of breathing space to come up with new plot developments. I'd like to think that every little bit genuinely helps, and while it might be foolish to imagine the cards 'give' us the 'answer' to the mystery (which would probably be a disappointment for all concerned), they will help us to illuminate certain things about the central mystery that will otherwise remain obscure...

Maybe that's what Adrian's getting at...
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Transcript of Interview

Ok so for those that needed it transcript of Scarlett's interview is now on the wiki http://wiki.incognitus.net/ppc/index.php/Scarlett_radio_1.doc Typo's all mine! Wink

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Thanks for that, Joolsweb. It all now becomes clearer to me...so, it isn't *necessarily* that the cube gives off an EM trace, just 'something' that *might* be like it. Ho hum, two steps forward...
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When I read the transcript it really struck me how little Scarlett actually knows - pretty much what we know - I don't think there's much new information in there at all! Not great for a budding journalist!

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