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step
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Very quick visit from Alison...

(Times are in EDT)
Quote:

[01:08] *** AlisonYoung has joined #avelon.
[01:08] AlisonYoung: New Blog Post
[01:08] *** AlisonYoung has signed off IRC (Client exited).



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Tuesday, June 14, 2005
Nothing New To Report Really

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Tracy paid us a visit Smile
Quote:
[14:26] *** TracyBunn has joined #avelon.
[14:27] wisdomwarrior: hiya tracy
[14:27] TracyBunn: hello wisdom
[14:27] wisdomwarrior: how are you doing
[14:27] TracyBunn: Alison just sent me to check up (but I think spy) on you guys.
[14:27] TracyBunn: I'm fine.. how are you.
[14:27] wisdomwarrior: im doing just peachy
[14:27] wisdomwarrior: how is Derk
[14:27] TracyBunn: Derk is going great.
[14:27] wisdomwarrior: right on
[14:27] TracyBunn: I feel really good about this.
[14:28] JoeOE18: oh! hello tracy
[14:28] TracyBunn: Hello Joe.
[14:28] wisdomwarrior: I dont mind having you as a spy Tracy Wink
[14:28] step: Hi Tracy
[14:28] JoeOE18: recovered yet?
[14:28] TracyBunn: awww, wisdom
[14:28] TracyBunn: Joe: yes
[14:28] JoeOE18: gdgd
[14:28] TracyBunn: step: hello
[14:28] TracyBunn: In fact, I just got up.
[14:29] TracyBunn: Jarod and Alison have been up all night doing this and that.
[14:29] wisdomwarrior: I assume no work today Tracy
[14:29] TracyBunn: But I passed out.
[14:29] JoeOE18: are you all hanging out at the "secret place"
[14:29] TracyBunn: wisdom: yeah... I don't think I have a job anymore
[14:29] wisdomwarrior: good for you Tracy
[14:29] TracyBunn: Joe: yes
[14:30] JoeOE18: cool, no sign of Harry (or richard :S)
[14:30] JoeOE18: ?
[14:30] TracyBunn: I don't understand the whole "Richard" thing myself.
[14:30] TracyBunn: That was quite odd.
[14:30] wisdomwarrior: did you see him Tracy?
[14:30] JoeOE18: you can say that again
[14:30] step: very
[14:30] TracyBunn: I didn't see him myself.
[14:31] TracyBunn: I talked to Alison about it.
[14:31] TracyBunn: All she said was "Well, he was there.. and then he wasn't"
[14:31] JoeOE18: hmmm very odd
[14:31] wisdomwarrior: spooky
[14:31] TracyBunn: She's still trying to explain it too herself yet.
[14:31] step: this is too weird
[14:32] TracyBunn: did you get her message?
[14:32] step: the blog post?
[14:32] TracyBunn: yeah
[14:32] JoeOE18: we have it, but we haven't figured out what it means yet Razz
[14:32] wisdomwarrior: we got the message, but not the message yet lol
[14:32] step: working onnit now
[14:32] TracyBunn: okay.
[14:32] TracyBunn: She wanted to know.
[14:33] TracyBunn: I would help you out, but I don't even know what she is talking about.
[14:33] TracyBunn: Even if I did see it, I wouldn't be much help anyway.
[14:33] TracyBunn: I'm not good at these sort of things.
[14:34] wisdomwarrior: Apparently, neither am I lol
[14:34] step: they are tough - so many possibilities to weed through
[14:35] TracyBunn: Well, you all are much smarter then I. You'll figure it out, I suppose.
[14:35] JoeOE18: hopefully
[14:35] step: it just takes some time Smile
[14:35] JoeOE18: i've only been working on it for 10mins Razz
[14:36] TracyBunn: Joe: and you don't have it yet. Smile
[14:36] wisdomwarrior: lol
[14:36] JoeOE18: true Sad
[14:36] * JoeOE18 sobs
[14:36] * TracyBunn hugs Joe
[14:36] JoeOE18: Very Happy
[14:36] TracyBunn: sorry, wisdom
[14:36] JoeOE18: lol
[14:37] * JoeOE18 taunts wisdom with the hug
[14:37] * wisdomwarrior sobs for no reason except to get a hug
[14:37] TracyBunn: Just a hug?
[14:37] TracyBunn: Damn
[14:37] Russell: hi tracy
[14:37] JoeOE18: lol
[14:37] Russell: hi guys
[14:37] * TracyBunn hugs wisdom
[14:37] JoeOE18: hi russ
[14:37] step: Hi Russel
[14:37] TracyBunn: Hello, Russell
[14:37] * wisdomwarrior is a gentleman
[14:37] Russell: man i missed a lot huh!
[14:37] TracyBunn: Uh huh
[14:37] JoeOE18: hehe
[14:38] Russell: damn have to restart pc back in a bit!
[14:38] *** Russell has signed off IRC (Quit: Immersion Unlimited Chat User).
[14:38] JoeOE18: i'm glad your hugging us and not kicking us Razz
[14:39] TracyBunn: Well, I'm not a hard kicker. So it appears.
[14:39] JoeOE18: i still don't think i'd like you to kick me Razz
[14:39] TracyBunn: probably not. Smile
[14:39] JoeOE18: whereabouts did you kick harry btw?
[14:39] JoeOE18: Razz
[14:39] TracyBunn: in the kneecaps
[14:39] wisdomwarrior: ouch
[14:39] TracyBunn: kneecap*
[14:39] step: aim higher next time
[14:39] TracyBunn: Thought that would bring him down.
[14:39] JoeOE18: ah....you could have chosen a more painfull area...
[14:39] TracyBunn: But I was wrong.
[14:40] TracyBunn: I could have.. but I was in a hurry.
[14:40] JoeOE18: fair enough
[14:40] TracyBunn: Didn't think too much about it.
[14:40] JoeOE18: he got spiked anyway
[14:40] TracyBunn: yeah. Jarod had that all set up for us.
[14:40] JoeOE18: clever old jarod
[14:40] TracyBunn: It was one of those retractable spike strips.
[14:40] JoeOE18: cool
[14:41] TracyBunn: Jarod said there was someone standing on the side of the road. But I didn't see anyone. I was too focused on the road.
[14:41] JoeOE18: ah! i need to get my brother and I some lunch
[14:41] JoeOE18: bb soon-ish
[14:41] step: how fast were you actually going? Smile
[14:42] TracyBunn: c-ya Joe
[14:42] *** You are now known as JoeOE18|thesandwichchef.
[14:42] JoeOE18|thesandwichchef: bye tracy Smile
[14:42] TracyBunn: About 45 in a 30
[14:42] step: ah, not too crazy
[14:42] TracyBunn: No.
[14:42] step: i had visions of you going 88 Smile
[14:43] TracyBunn: hehe
[14:43] TracyBunn: Alisons' just a wimp
[14:44] *** IUGuest has joined #avelon.
[14:44] *** IUGuest is now known as Russell.
[14:45] TracyBunn: wb, Russell
[14:45] Russell: lol hi again
[14:46] Russell: so are we working on anything
[14:46] step: so Tracy, any idea on how soon before we can attempt the next plan?
[14:46] TracyBunn: Well, I have to enter some things into the computer.
[14:47] TracyBunn: And then we need to figure out this whole "ARM" thing. What's different about the one that we have.
[14:47] TracyBunn: So, it might take a couple of days.
[14:47] step: oh yeah, forgot that bit Smile
[14:48] TracyBunn: Basically, we're trying to figure out if the one that we have is like a "trial version" of the real one.
[14:49] * step nods
[14:49] TracyBunn: And any other differences as well.
[14:49] TracyBunn: But that will come later.
[14:51] TracyBunn: Russell, you still there?
[14:52] Russell: yup
[14:52] TracyBunn: Oooo, I was so close to kicking you.
[14:52] TracyBunn: Smile
[14:52] Russell: Sad
[14:52] step: lol
[14:52] Russell: why?
[14:53] TracyBunn: kick you awake.
[14:53] Russell: lol
[14:53] TracyBunn: Didn't know if you were here or not.
[14:53] TracyBunn: You asked a question and the answer is yes.
[14:53] Russell: so noone has decoded that message yet?
[14:53] TracyBunn: not that I can see.
[14:53] *** You are now known as JoeOE18.
[14:54] JoeOE18: back! with my lunch Razz
[14:54] Russell: I tried seperating the capitals from lowercase but nothing yet
[14:54] step: i was half asleep when we got it and then i stayed up instead of getting some rest
[14:54] step: so nothing productive from me Smile
[14:54] TracyBunn: sleep, step.
[14:54] step: I got a few hours sleep
[14:54] TracyBunn: awwww
[14:55] JoeOE18: i tried tuning it into binary, and i got some interesting characters Razz
[14:55] step: i thought i was gonna sleep 8 hours but i woke up after 3
[14:55] JoeOE18: Sad
[14:55] TracyBunn: Too much on your mind, step?
[14:56] step: i'm not sure - i had some interesting dreams though
[14:56] TracyBunn: hmmmm
[14:56] TracyBunn: I don't think I want to know.
[14:56] step: lol
[14:58] JoeOE18: mmm bacon sandwhich.....
[14:58] TracyBunn: BLT?
[14:58] JoeOE18: no just B Razz
[14:58] TracyBunn: Oh...
[14:59] JoeOE18: i don't particularly like L or T Smile
[14:59] * JoeOE18 is very picky
[14:59] TracyBunn: I'm okay with L, if it's got some D on it. But T? ewwwww
[14:59] JoeOE18: T is good on pizza Very Happy
[15:00] TracyBunn: only if it's the sauce.
[15:00] TracyBunn: I can't stand the ickiness of them
[15:00] * JoeOE18 concurs
[15:00] JoeOE18: right, thats my lunch finished back to the message...
[15:05] wisdomwarrior: Tracy, was there an article in the paper about Richard's death?
[15:06] TracyBunn: Not yet.. they are still figuring out the funeral.
[15:06] wisdomwarrior: where was his body found?
[15:06] TracyBunn: Yes.
[15:06] TracyBunn: Oh... in his car.
[15:06] JoeOE18: by whom?
[15:06] TracyBunn: Didn't see the "where".
[15:07] TracyBunn: One of the other employees.
[15:07] JoeOE18: ah
[15:07] TracyBunn: I wasn't there so I don't know.
[15:07] wisdomwarrior: did you see the police at the company?
[15:07] TracyBunn: I heard them pull up.
[15:07] TracyBunn: I asked Alison what was going on.
[15:07] TracyBunn: She told me that someone just found Richard dead in his car.
[15:08] TracyBunn: I didn't have the guts to look for myself.
[15:08] TracyBunn: I don't have the stomach for that sort of thing.
[15:08] TracyBunn: But we did find out that Richard wrote that message that you now see on the site before he left the building.
[15:09] wisdomwarrior: what message
[15:09] TracyBunn: The whole "Richard was the best programmer..." message.
[15:10] TracyBunn: The police didn't even show up until after the message was on the site.
[15:10] TracyBunn: That was Richards' way of saying "this is what I'm going to do" I guess.
[15:11] wisdomwarrior: thats weird
[15:11] step: i was wondering why it showed up so quickly
[15:11] JoeOE18: ah we were wondering about the message last night
[15:12] TracyBunn: I suppose he just didn't want any confusion as to what happend to him.
[15:13] JoeOE18: yeah...
[15:13] step: brb
[15:14] TracyBunn: okay
[15:15] TracyBunn: Well, I guess I should probably get going.
[15:15] wisdomwarrior: ok Tracy, thanks for your time
[15:15] wisdomwarrior: and the info
[15:15] JoeOE18: ok thanks Smile
[15:15] TracyBunn: No problem...
[15:16] TracyBunn: You guys have a good day.
[15:16] JoeOE18: you too, try not to kick to many people
[15:16] TracyBunn: I'll try to make sure that Alison pops her head in later.
[15:16] JoeOE18: cool
[15:16] wisdomwarrior: cool Tracy
[15:16] TracyBunn: Joe: hehe.. awww, where's the fun in that?
[15:16] TracyBunn: bye
[15:16] JoeOE18: lol
[15:16] step: seeya Tracy
[15:16] *** TracyBunn has signed off IRC (Quit: ).


Color Legend:
TracyBunn, blue


During the chat i got this message from Tracy:
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[15:02] TracyBunn: Alison says "Run with that". Shhhhhh!

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well, alison came onto IRC,
Quote:
* AlisonYoung has joined #avelon
<wisdomwarrior> we are still trying to decipher the message
<JoeOE18|physics> recovered from last night?
<AlisonYoung> Joe: Haven't slept yet.
<AlisonYoung> But I'm going to soon.
<chippy> hows Derk getting along?
<JoeOE18|physics> haha, you probably should
<AlisonYoung> Derk is doing very well.
<chippy> thats good
<wisdomwarrior> how is Jarod
<chippy> he popped in here after you arrived
<AlisonYoung> Jarod is sleeping right now.
<AlisonYoung> We're pretty much taking turns.
<chippy> and whats all this about Richard?
<chippy> is he alive? you saw him yes?
<AlisonYoung> Darned if I know. He was there at the back door.
<AlisonYoung> And then he was gone.
<JoeOE18|physics> wierd...
<JoeOE18|physics> gone as in, vanished or gone as in went round a corner?
<AlisonYoung> I might have been seeing things.
<chippy> so he faked his suicide?
<AlisonYoung> Joe: vanished.
<AlisonYoung> No... he was quite dead.
<chippy> well, ruchard could have opened the door for you?
<AlisonYoung> chippy: That's what I was thinking.
<chippy> as a ghost?
<AlisonYoung> That he was helping.
<wisdomwarrior> yeah, but derk thought he was having ghost problems, and it turned out to be you and the ARM program
<AlisonYoung> All of the events of last night are kind of a blur right now.
<AlisonYoung> wisdom: Are you implying what I think you are implying?
<wisdomwarrior> im just tossing it out there alison
<AlisonYoung> hehe
<AlisonYoung> Well, I wouldn't know if I was. So, it's possible.
<AlisonYoung> Kinda makes things a little more complicated if it's true.
<wisdomwarrior> indeed
<JoeOE18|physics> maybe he has a secret twin ? Smile
<AlisonYoung> hehe
<AlisonYoung> So, how far have you gotten with the message so far?
<wisdomwarrior> we assume its coded for binary?
<AlisonYoung> okay.
<AlisonYoung> and have you tried that?
<JoeOE18|physics> yes
<AlisonYoung> anything?
<JoeOE18|physics> well...something that could be something
<AlisonYoung> oh
<JoeOE18|physics> but nothing definite
<wisdomwarrior> we get a mess of letters, the number 1 and ==
<AlisonYoung> Joe: Tracy gave you my message?
<JoeOE18|physics> yup
<AlisonYoung> okay.
<JoeOE18|physics> while we ere talking about pizza....
<JoeOE18|physics> which was slightly cinfusing
<JoeOE18|physics> confusing*
<chippy> im still confused lol
<AlisonYoung> chippy: do you know what I told Joe to do?
<chippy> yes i think so
<AlisonYoung> okay.
<AlisonYoung> brb
<chippy> so its a computer program?
<AlisonYoung> what is a computer program?
<chippy> the message?
<AlisonYoung> I'll brb
<chippy> k
<wisdomwarrior> ok
<wisdomwarrior> were you talking about pizza joe
<JoeOE18|physics> when she sent me the message yeah
<JoeOE18|physics> but i had been talking about binary
<JoeOE18|physics> so it could be referring to that...
<wisdomwarrior> binary makes sense cuz it has 192 characters which is divisible by 8
<chippy> whats the pizza firm derk uses?
<JoeOE18|physics> papa johns or something
<wisdomwarrior> papa john's
<chippy> thanks
<Russell> hmmm
* Russell cannot think much more or may asplode
<JoeOE18|physics> now to be ironic i'm going to eat some pizza
<JoeOE18|physics> bbl Razz
* JoeOE18|physics is now known as JoeOE18|pizza
<AlisonYoung> chippy: PM me your e-mail address
<AlisonYoung> thank you
<chippy> thank you Smile
<chippy> well ive tried running it as an exe (converted to binary) but it just give me an error
<AlisonYoung> you've got mail.
<Russell> whats it say chippy?
<chippy> Very Happy
<Russell> ??
<chippy> thanks alison
<chippy> i shall now say what i see
<AlisonYoung> Does my message to Joe make any sense now?
<chippy> yeah
<AlisonYoung> okay.
<Russell> silence... lol
<AlisonYoung> hehe
<AlisonYoung> He must see a lot.
<Russell> ahhhhh
<chippy> well its a baseball player
<chippy> and are they called "bases" ?
<Russell> yup
<Russell> but what base to use?
<chippy> so "run with it" and base
<AlisonYoung> "Run with it" was referring to "baserunning"
<Russell> ooh ooh ooh
<Russell> Deathhasbecomeus
<AlisonYoung> Now I shall leave you guys alone... but a question to keep in mind....
<Russell> yes?
<wisdomwarrior> i dont even know whats going on
<chippy> lol
<AlisonYoung> What is the most important aspect of running a business?
<AlisonYoung> I'll go now.
<Russell> to make money
<chippy> ok thanks alison
* AlisonYoung has quit (Quit: )


Interesting thing about Richard...he was definitely dead.... help from the grave perhaps....or is alison also in an ARM?

We were asking about the puzzle, she emailed me this image as a clooo :
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Oooooook

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I thought of the letters being coded in binary. So then step and wisdomwarrior, having the capital letters represent 1 and the non capital letters represent 0 got the binary string:

01010010 01000111
01010110 01101000
01100100 01000111
01101000 01101111
01011001 01011000
01001110 01101001
01011010 01010111
01001110 01110110
01100010 01010111
01010110 00110001
01100011 01110111
00111101 00111101

This decodes to: RGVhdGhoYXNiZWNvbWV1cw==

Russell then used Base64 to decode that to mean:

Deathhasbecomeus

Which is "Death has become us"

To explain Tracy's message to me, she was saying Run to do with bases, and giving me the clue that when i had been talking about binary i was right


And that's where we are now.
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Alison emailed me

Quote:
My country,' tis of thee,

sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing;

land where my fathers died,

land of the pilgrims' pride,

from every mountainside let freedom ring!


which is the first verse from this song "America (My Country, 'Tis of Thee)"

http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh697.sht

the tune is also the same tune as used for the British National Anthem
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this is the how the rest of the blog post puzzles works out:

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Google "Death has become us" and you the first site that comes up is http://www.opendiary.com/entryview.asp?authorcode=D458724&entry=10001
Then we were given the clue "what is the most important aspect of running a business?" Location, location, location of course. Check the location of the the person who wrote the entry. Canada.


That leads us to this site:
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www.avelontech.com/canada Don't forget to ctrlA the page to see the remarks left by Harry


I think that should explain the rest of the blog posted puzzle LOL

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Just had a chat with Alison, and here is the transcript:

Quote:
[01:06] * Alison[away] is now known as AlisonYoung
[01:06] <wisdomwarrior> hiya Alison
[01:06] <AlisonYoung> hello everyone
[01:06] <KSG> #PPC, For Per Plex City. Gotcha.
[01:07] <KSG> So what was with the [away]ness, Alison? Wanted to see what we
talk about when you're not here?
[01:07] <AlisonYoung> No... just had some things to do that I forgot about.
[01:07] <AlisonYoung> I got here and had to leave right away.
[01:07] <JustLurking> everything ok?
[01:08] <AlisonYoung> yeah... brb
[01:08] <wisdomwarrior> ok Alison
[01:08] <wisdomwarrior> Smile
[01:08] <JustLurking> again? Smile
[01:10] <wisdomwarrior> I am curious as to where Alison's husband is at during
all of this?
[01:13] <step> so do i go now, or wait? Smile
[01:13] <AlisonYoung> sorry... I'm back now
[01:13] <KSG> WB.
[01:13] <wisdomwarrior> welcome back Alison
[01:13] <JustLurking> guess it's wait Smile
[01:13] <AlisonYoung> Back for good.
[01:13] <JustLurking> good
[01:13] <wisdomwarrior> sweet
[01:14] <wisdomwarrior> so whats going on Alison
[01:14] <AlisonYoung> Speaking of my husband... I just got off the phone with
him a little while ago.
[01:14] <AlisonYoung> He's at home and doing fine.
[01:14] <JustLurking> heh
[01:14] <wisdomwarrior> right on
[01:15] <wisdomwarrior> did anyone give you the
message that Harry left for ya?
[01:15] * Jot|Sleep has quit IRC (Ping timeout:
180 seconds)
[01:15] <AlisonYoung> yeah, I saw it.
[01:15] <AlisonYoung> I was going to ask you guys
about it.
[01:15] <wisdomwarrior> i emailed harry
[01:15] <AlisonYoung> Should I contact Harry?
[01:15] <wisdomwarrior> i was thinking perhaps we
should have him email us first
[01:15] <wisdomwarrior> set up a meeting of some
sort
[01:15] <wisdomwarrior> perhaps even in here
[01:16] <AlisonYoung> That's not a bad idea.
[01:16] <wisdomwarrior> cuz it could be a trap
for all we know
[01:16] <AlisonYoung> I wasn't go to go back to
AvelonTech. I was going to call him from a
payphone,.
[01:16] <wisdomwarrior> and its good for security
reasons
[01:17] <AlisonYoung> well, either way, we need
to contact him.
[01:18] <wisdomwarrior> yeah, i hope to hear back
from him soon, if not, you can call him
[01:19] <wisdomwarrior> i just wanna make sure its not a trap, or that lyle
doesnt have a way of listening in on the conversation
[01:19] <AlisonYoung> So then I'll wait until you guys hear from him and then
I'll call him? Or you guys will try to get a meeting together?
[01:19] <wisdomwarrior> i would like to think that if possible we could set up
a meeting in here for all of us?
[01:20] <AlisonYoung> Well, that would be definitely be possible.
[01:20] <wisdomwarrior> were you the only one to see Richard?
[01:21] <AlisonYoung> yes
[01:21] <wisdomwarrior> ok
[01:21] <AlisonYoung> sorry, going back and forth between this and Derk.
[01:21] <wisdomwarrior> its okay
[01:22] <wisdomwarrior> how is Derk
[01:22] <AlisonYoung> he is doing great so far.
[01:22] <wisdomwarrior> thats good to hear
[01:22] <step> should we be concerned about his headaches?
[01:22] <AlisonYoung> no... those are not any trouble.
[01:22] <step> ok
[01:22] <AlisonYoung> He has them like everyone else.
[01:23] <wisdomwarrior> have you been communicating with Derk?
[01:24] <AlisonYoung> Not really... nothing really to say yet.
[01:24] <wisdomwarrior> true
[01:24] <wisdomwarrior> does the ARM work fine?
[01:24] <AlisonYoung> His does. We are having problems with the other one.
[01:25] <AlisonYoung> It doesn't want to except any changes yet.
[01:25] <wisdomwarrior> is that unusual?
[01:25] <AlisonYoung> yes.
[01:25] <wisdomwarrior> maybe its more than an ARM?
[01:25] <AlisonYoung> Well, only Harry would know. But it is possible.
[01:26] <AlisonYoung> We are simply guessing at what is different at this
point.
[01:26] <wisdomwarrior> and what about the password?
[01:26] <AlisonYoung> But we think it's made to not need a password.
[01:26] <step> does Harry have any tech skills or is he just a business guy?
[01:27] <AlisonYoung> He's just the idea guy.
[01:27] <step> just checking Smile
[01:27] <AlisonYoung> From what we can gather, we believe that Lyle had the
extra "ARM" for "press day".
[01:28] <AlisonYoung> Give the reporters an idea of what the patients are going to be experiencing.
[01:28] <wisdomwarrior> hmmmm, thats interesting
[01:28] <wisdomwarrior> why, i dont know, but interesting nonetheless lol
[01:28] <AlisonYoung> hehe
[01:28] <AlisonYoung> Well, it's interesting simply because it would work of
off the patients memories ONLY.
[01:29] <AlisonYoung> You could actually view someones past without having to
ask people about it.
[01:29] <wisdomwarrior> you could see people's past?
[01:29] <AlisonYoung> With the ARM that Derk has on, we need to fill in the
blanks.
[01:30] <wisdomwarrior> sounds like the ARM could be used for more than just
helping comatose patients
[01:30] <AlisonYoung> Well, Lyle isn't as stupid as some people make him out
to be.
[01:30] <wisdomwarrior> yeah, ive always said follow the money
[01:31] <wisdomwarrior> maybe he has a nefarious scheme in place for the big
press day
[01:31] <AlisonYoung> Could be... there are supposed to be a lot of
"important" people attending on Press Day.
[01:32] <wisdomwarrior> wow
[01:32] <AlisonYoung> mostly military people.
[01:32] <wisdomwarrior> hmmm
[01:32] <step> no surprise there
[01:32] <wisdomwarrior> still, what if you could get in the head of a high
ranking military official
[01:33] <step> i have some question cos i'm getting myself confused again
[01:33] <AlisonYoung> Lyle could get codes for just about anything... the
start of WWIII
[01:33] <AlisonYoung> step: go ahead
[01:33] <wisdomwarrior> why would there be military folks there?
[01:33] <AlisonYoung> Of course, I'm just specking along with everyone else.
[01:34] <step> ok, the upload the building plan stuff...
[01:34] <AlisonYoung> wisdom: war casualties, or anything else you can think of.
[01:34] <AlisonYoung> step: what about it.
[01:34] <step> we are waiting on that cos you would have to use the new ARM to
go in right - and we wanna know how it works - is that correct?
[01:35] <AlisonYoung> Well, since we are having a problem with it currently,
then knowing what we are doing wrong would be nice.
[01:35] <AlisonYoung> But I will have to go in, yes.
[01:36] <step> ok, but... now Derk knows his situation and he is already "in"
- why can't he attemt the plan so that you don't have to use the other ARM?
[01:36] <AlisonYoung> Because of the virtuals inside the building.
[01:37] <step> i'm not sure i follow you
[01:37] <AlisonYoung> Harry?
[01:37] <AlisonYoung> Lyle?
[01:37] <step> ok
[01:38] <AlisonYoung> Let's follow your theory for a second.
[01:38] <wisdomwarrior> do you already have the information about avelontech
that is gonna be put in the program
[01:38] <AlisonYoung> wisdom: Yes. But Tracy is having to put it in manually.
[01:38] <AlisonYoung> okay.. back to your theory.
[01:39] <AlisonYoung> Derk gets inside the building...
[01:39] <AlisonYoung> Harry or (worse) Lyle sees him.
[01:39] <AlisonYoung> Now, in his world he would have no idea who they look like.
[01:39] <AlisonYoung> But, the way the program would respond is how the "real
world" would respond.
[01:39] <AlisonYoung> Action vs. reaction.
[01:40] <AlisonYoung> The virtual Lyle would react as the real world one would
(or it should).
[01:40] <step> hmmm...
[01:41] <AlisonYoung> Now... let's go a little further... and say that Lyle
didn't have just ONE extra ARM made.
[01:42] <AlisonYoung> All of the ARMs' use the same program... Richards'program.
[01:43] <AlisonYoung> This being the case, all of the people who have them on
would be able to interact with eachother.
[01:44] <AlisonYoung> If Lyle does have another ARM, he could interact with
Derk, once he figures out what is going on.
[01:44] <AlisonYoung> If he hasn't already.
[01:45] <step> interesting
[01:45] <wisdomwarrior> how do the ARMs connect with each other?
[01:45] <AlisonYoung> This is why we are trying to hurry up and get this thing
finished ASAP.
[01:46] <AlisonYoung> All of the ARMS are tracked through a main interface.
[01:46] <AlisonYoung> They used to just run off of seperate networks.
[01:46] <AlisonYoung> But about 2 weeks ago, that all changed.
[01:47] <wisdomwarrior> why doesnt avelontech
just lock you out of the system?
[01:47] <AlisonYoung> They can't lock us out... the program will not allow that happen.
[01:48] <wisdomwarrior> gotcha
[01:48] <AlisonYoung> The program would notice that a change is being made
that would allow it to not track the ARM anymore.
[01:48] <AlisonYoung> basically, it would "error" itself.
[01:49] <wisdomwarrior> but you can change some things in the program
[01:49] <wisdomwarrior> like removing the wall?
[01:49] <AlisonYoung> We can add.
[01:49] <AlisonYoung> yes... and that.
[01:49] <wisdomwarrior> why cant you just remove everything except the password itself?
[01:49] <AlisonYoung> If we are using the security interface to load the walls.
[01:50] <AlisonYoung> Because of the location... how would I get up to the 17th floor?
[01:50] <AlisonYoung> Or maybe I'm not following you?
[01:50] <wisdomwarrior> if all the bits of information is stored in the ARM, then why not just extract the password
[01:51] <AlisonYoung> Hmmm.....
[01:51] <wisdomwarrior> if you can remove a wall, why not remove everything
[01:51] <AlisonYoung> Good point.
[01:51] <AlisonYoung> Never thought of that.
[01:51] <AlisonYoung> Smile
[01:51] <step> Smile
[01:52] * AlisonYoung contemplates wisdoms wisdom
[01:52] <AlisonYoung> So, once we can "see" what the program is seeing, look for the password xxx written down?
[01:52] <wisdomwarrior> yeah
[01:52] <wisdomwarrior> ive been saying that for days LOL
[01:53] <AlisonYoung> Damn... you mean I did all of this for nothing?
[01:53] <wisdomwarrior> not really
[01:53] <wisdomwarrior> i could be wrong
[01:54] <AlisonYoung> No... I don't think that you are.
[01:54] <wisdomwarrior> if you alter the program, does it show as altered for everyone else on the ARM network
[01:54] <AlisonYoung> if they were to visit the area.. yes.
[01:55] <wisdomwarrior> ok
[01:55] <AlisonYoung> But if we just load the walls and the one camera in Richards' old office.
[01:55] <AlisonYoung> then no one else would be in the building because there won't be any cameras TO see anyone.
[01:56] <wisdomwarrior> yeah
[01:56] <wisdomwarrior> ill leave that to the experts, i had my one good idea for the evening lol
[01:56] <AlisonYoung> I knew Tracy loved you for a reason.
[01:56] <wisdomwarrior> who?
[01:56] <AlisonYoung> Tracy... Ms. Bunn to you.
[01:57] <wisdomwarrior> who does she love
[01:57] <wisdomwarrior> shes married too?
[01:57] <AlisonYoung> not love as in LOOOVE but love as in "that person is really cool!"
[01:57] <AlisonYoung> MRS. is married. MS. is unmarried.
[01:57] <wisdomwarrior> im not cool
[01:57] <wisdomwarrior> im a nerd
[01:58] <AlisonYoung> Yes you are cool.
[01:58] <step> Wink
[01:58] <wisdomwarrior> lol
[01:58] <AlisonYoung> Okay... well, I will pass that information to along to
Tracy... No cameras except for the one in Ricahrds' old office.
[01:59] <AlisonYoung> Richards*
[01:59] <wisdomwarrior> and i hope we hear from Harry
[01:59] <AlisonYoung> I'm sure that we will... hopefully.
[02:00] <AlisonYoung> It's just a matter of time... not a lot of time.. but time.
[02:01] <wisdomwarrior> now that im thinking about it, my idea is a good one
[02:01] <AlisonYoung> hehe
[02:01] <AlisonYoung> I've been thinking about it too...
[02:02] <step> i must head out for a bit. see you guys later
[02:02] <wisdomwarrior> since Richard isnt gonna be in his office anytime soon LOL ... it should be empty
[02:02] <AlisonYoung> Too good to be true.. but I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't work.
[02:02] <AlisonYoung> Yeah... and that was what we were worried about earlier.
[02:02] * step is now known as step|afk
[02:02] <wisdomwarrior> although i would be glad if he is alive or at least a kind ghost
[02:02] <AlisonYoung> Which is why we had the plan that we did.
[02:02] <AlisonYoung> But now that he's.. well.. not around anymore... the plan can change.
[02:02] <wisdomwarrior> cuz i feel guilty that i drove him to suicide
[02:03] <AlisonYoung> Oh, I'm sure it wasn't all your fault.
[02:03] <wisdomwarrior> obviously you dont know what i said LOL
[02:04] <AlisonYoung> No, I don't think that I do.
[02:04] <wisdomwarrior> i was really hard on him
[02:04] <AlisonYoung> I was trying to be comforting.
[02:04] <wisdomwarrior> then i got your email saying not to be too hard on him LOL
[02:04] <AlisonYoung> oops... hehe
[02:05] <AlisonYoung> Well, I'm sure you had a good reason to be.
[02:05] <wisdomwarrior> now if Tracy was here... perhaps i wouldnt mind some comfort Razz
[02:05] <AlisonYoung> Who knew what he was going to do?
[02:05] <AlisonYoung> hehe
[02:06] <wisdomwarrior> do you think that Lyle has something big planned for the ARM?
[02:06] <AlisonYoung> Well, knowing him, I wouldn't count that out.
[02:06] <AlisonYoung> But what? I don't know.
[02:06] <AlisonYoung> Well, I better run.
[02:06] <wisdomwarrior> does lyle know the password?
[02:07] <AlisonYoung> Thanks, wisdom.
[02:07] <AlisonYoung> No.. Richard was the ONLY one with the password.
[02:07] <wisdomwarrior> im wondering what Harry is gonna do about his wife?
[02:07] <AlisonYoung> We were looking into that.
[02:07] <AlisonYoung> She's not a patient at AvelonTech.
[02:07] <wisdomwarrior> oh
[02:07] <AlisonYoung> No "Betty's" there.
[02:07] <wisdomwarrior> i guess i need to reread the transcript
[02:08] <JustLurking> well, couldn't "Betty" just be slang?
[02:08] <AlisonYoung> He could have her at home or on a waiting list.
[02:08] <AlisonYoung> It could be... except that Lyle says "wife".
[02:09] <wisdomwarrior> Lyle says he is the only one who knows how to fix the chip
[02:09] <AlisonYoung> Harry could also have her under a different name as well.
[02:09] <AlisonYoung> Yeah... the chip is his area.. the program (what we need
the password for) was Richards' area.
[02:09] <wisdomwarrior> oh ok
[02:10] <AlisonYoung> You have 3 parts.
[02:10] <wisdomwarrior> whats the third part
[02:10] <wisdomwarrior> the ARM itself?
[02:10] <AlisonYoung> 1) The ARM device... 2) The Chip that goes into the ARM... 3) The program that Runs the chip and ARM
[02:10] <wisdomwarrior> gotcha\
[02:11] <wisdomwarrior> is it just you and me?
[02:11] <AlisonYoung> Well, Just and step were here a second ago.
[02:11] <wisdomwarrior> and JL
[02:11] <KSG> Yes.
[02:11] <wisdomwarrior> yeah
[02:11] <AlisonYoung> Oh, KSG.
[02:11] <JustLurking> I'm here, pretty much
[02:11] <AlisonYoung> didn't see you there.
[02:11] <KSG> Sorry, I'm multi-multi tasking.
[02:11] <AlisonYoung> hehe
[02:11] <wisdomwarrior> i thought i was the only one talking lol
[02:11] <KSG> I just scrolled up and read three screens of this to catch up.
[02:12] <AlisonYoung> hehe
[02:12] <JustLurking> well, you kinda are Wink
[02:12] <wisdomwarrior> i dont wanna hog Alison
[02:12] <wisdomwarrior> ill share
[02:12] <AlisonYoung> Well, I better run. I'm going to run through the new plan with Tracy...
[02:12] <wisdomwarrior> ok
[02:12] <wisdomwarrior> thank you for your time Alison
[02:12] <AlisonYoung> I'll talk to all of you later.
[02:12] <JustLurking> bye Alison
[02:12] <AlisonYoung> And thank you for yours, wisdom.
[02:12] <wisdomwarrior> and ill let you know if i hear from Harry
[02:12] <KSG> Heheh.
[02:13] <KSG> Bye Alison.
[02:13] <AlisonYoung> okay...
[02:13] <wisdomwarrior> well it was inspired by all of team tollin
[02:13] <AlisonYoung> bye everyone.. and goodnight (goodday)
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Looks like its getting pretty interesting folks....

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:36 am
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wisdomwarrior
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UPDATE AT END OF POST
I just got a reply from my email via Eric Trott from Mr. Avelon:
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Mr. Avelons' box is closed. But he has requested that I ask you what sort of information you are requesting of him. Oh, and something about "name the place". Don't ask me. I just work here, man.

<wisdom_of_warriors_past@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. Avelon,

We have recently uncovered some interesting information regarding certain patients at Avelontech. Needless to say, we are willing to be of help in your situation. I have been entrusted to provide you the avenue you need to communicate with the one you are trying to reach. I do not know if you are a "bettying man", but I hope you are willing to "bet" on us to help you. Please respond as soon as possible so I know you are interested in setting a meeting up.

Sincerly,
Wisdom

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EDIT: Response from Alison about the email from Richard

Tell him about the IRC channel. Ask if that would be a good place to meet and what time would be good for him. We can ask all of our questions in there.

Keep in mind that we don't know how much he is willing to put forward. It would be wise not to tell him what we are planning on doing.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:38 pm
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A visit from Alison Leads to a visit from a very special guest...

Quote:
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<Kythen> hi alison Smile
<AlisonYoung> hello, Kythen.
<AlisonYoung> How are you doing?
<Kythen> not bad
<Kythen> how about you?
<AlisonYoung> I'm doing okay.
<delusional696> hi alison:)
<AlisonYoung> Just thought I'd pop in here. It's been awhile.
<Kjartan> heya alison
<AlisonYoung> hello, delusional.
<AlisonYoung> hello, Kj.
<Kjartan> caught me just before heading to bed
<AlisonYoung> Well, don't let me stop you from getting any sleep.
<Kythen> lol
<AlisonYoung> I'm just here to chat.
<AlisonYoung> Nothing interesting will come from this conversation.
<Kythen> bit late for that for a lot of us i think Smile
<AlisonYoung> I promise.
<AlisonYoung> Have you guys heard about our new plan?
<delusional696> don't think so
<Kjartan> About getting Harry in here?
<AlisonYoung> No... about loading the walls and only the one security camera that is in Richards'
office.
<Kjartan> yeah -- wisdom's pretty slick ain't he?
<AlisonYoung> yes... very smart.
<AlisonYoung> I thought I was going to have to go ninja style.
<AlisonYoung> But he kept me at bay.
<Kythen> awww
<Kjartan> sound a little disapointed.
<delusional696> loading into ARM?
<AlisonYoung> delusional: huh?
<delusional696> the walls and camera
<AlisonYoung> yes.
<AlisonYoung> And Tracy is almost done.
<AlisonYoung> One more day I think.
<delusional696> ok, sorry i'm a bit behind it seems
<Kjartan> So tomorrow night you plan on getting the codes?
<AlisonYoung> That's okay. Not much has been going on. It won't take you very long to catch up.
<AlisonYoung> Smile
<AlisonYoung> Well, I'd like to know what's different about the "ARM" that we have first.
<AlisonYoung> Before I have to put it on.
<AlisonYoung> I'm still wondering if we should ask Derk to do this or not.
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<Kythen> wb wisdom
* WW|BRB is now known as WisdomWarrior
<AlisonYoung> wisdom.. my savior.
<Kjartan> wisdom is back in black
<AlisonYoung> Smile
<AlisonYoung> Ooooo... and he's capitalized his W's.
<WisdomWarrior> Alison, did you tell them your thoughts about the email I sent ya?
<Kjartan> I was just about to ask her bout that
<Kjartan> no she hasn't
<AlisonYoung> Not yet.
<WisdomWarrior> ok
<AlisonYoung> Did you get my response?
<WisdomWarrior> i just got your email, but I guess its just as easy if you do
<WisdomWarrior> yeahI did
<AlisonYoung> okay.
<AlisonYoung> I don't know if Harry knows that I have the extra "ARM" of if he is just assuming that I
do.
<AlisonYoung> So I don't think we should let him in on that quite yet.
<AlisonYoung> I think that mentioning something like "We saw that you said there was something
different about the "ARM" that was taken from your office. Care to share what that is?"
<Kjartan> maybe we can set up an anonymous chat in a new channel... give you an irc handle alison
<AlisonYoung> A new handle? So I won't be "seen"? Sounds good to me.
<Kythen> maybe use one of those bots too, so he wouldn't recognize the IP
* Six|OffAndAbout is now known as Six
<AlisonYoung> Well... I'll get in before he shows up. So, unless he knows how to check for the IP he
won't see it.
<Kjartan> if you login through a web client, you might be able to mask your ip too
<AlisonYoung> such as?
<Kjartan> ummm I dunno... but there is probably one out there somewhere
<AlisonYoung> okay.
<AlisonYoung> Does anyone know of one I could use?
<Kjartan> ...searching...
<AlisonYoung> does that "tinyurl" have one?
<WisdomWarrior> Alison, how old are ya?
<AlisonYoung> 24. 25 soon...
<AlisonYoung> but don't say anything.
<Kjartan> this video game site should do:
<Kjartan> http://www.the-nextlevel.com/chat/index.shtml
<WisdomWarrior> are you and Derk twins?
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<Guest31> as you see... I'm here
<AlisonYoung> No.... I'm a year older.
<Kythen> hey, you're my age alison Smile
<Guest31> and you don't know where I'm from...
<AlisonYoung> okay, Guest.
<Kjartan> oh damn.. it doesn't mask you
<Kjartan> never mind
<AlisonYoung> hehe.
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<Kjartan> well it was a thought
<AlisonYoung> Well, I don't have anything like "show IP" checkmarked.
<Kythen> need to find a BNC
<Six> interseting plan you got going here
<WisdomWarrior> Alison, how did Jarod know about your secret place?
<Six> hi by the way
<Kythen> unfortunately i don't know of any offhand
<AlisonYoung> Wisdom: During our 4 hour talk he said that he had overheard me telling Emily about it.
<AlisonYoung> hello, Six.
<AlisonYoung> and thank you... well, thank wisdom actually.
<Kjartan> our hero!
<Six> always there to rescue us
* Kjartan batts his eyelids at wisdom
<Kythen> lol
<Six> so where's the chat gonna be?
<AlisonYoung> I guess we don't know yet.
<AlisonYoung> That's between you guys and Harry.
<WisdomWarrior> so you could be here at any time he suggested Alison?
<AlisonYoung> I won't try to make contact with him. This way he will have no reason to believe that
I'll be there.
<AlisonYoung> I hope so.
<AlisonYoung> If I can't, I'll e-mail you another time.
<AlisonYoung> Maybe he'll be willing to bargain.
<AlisonYoung> If there is something that he needs to get off of his chest then he should be willing to
except any time given to him.
<Kythen> wisdom, maybe try around 8pm CST?
<Kjartan> So, in related news, I've not gotten anything back from Harry since I last E-mailed him a few
questions through my businessman persona
<Kythen> should be reasonable for all of us across the time zones
<Kjartan> I'll try pushing again, but it might be interesting for me to try to drop another hint or two
in there.
<WisdomWarrior> his box is closed Kj, thats why he hasnt been returning email
<AlisonYoung> Well, his e-mail box is closed now. So I don't know if you'll get a response from him.
<AlisonYoung> what wisdom said.
<AlisonYoung> Smile
<Kjartan> he's got another one
<Kjartan> the exite one?
<AlisonYoung> yes.
<Kjartan> is that the one that they're talking about?
<AlisonYoung> yes
<WisdomWarrior> that has a vacation response
<WisdomWarrior> or is that richard's, i dont remember
<Kjartan> okay... well, I can try leaning on eric a bit.
<WisdomWarrior> you can email harry if you want
<AlisonYoung> You can try reaching Harry through eric.
<WisdomWarrior> just put re:"name the place" in the subject box
<WisdomWarrior> and you can tell him about irc and what is a good time for him to meet
<AlisonYoung> A list of questions to get ready would be nice as well.
<WisdomWarrior> eric will make sure that harry sees that email
<Kjartan> I was going to try E-mailing him as by business persona saying there were strange people
calling themselves team tollins asking me questions about my relationship with him...
<WisdomWarrior> you can do that, but does he trust you? i think he only responded to me cuz i made
mention of betty
<WisdomWarrior> brb
<AlisonYoung> true
<Kjartan> I got a good response to my early E-mails, but I haven't heard from him since richard died
<Kjartan> and I sent out a humdinger of an E-mail after that. (At least I think it was good)
<Kjartan> err i mean right before he died.
<AlisonYoung> hehe
<AlisonYoung> humdinger.
<AlisonYoung> ummm...
* Kjartan loves old slang
<AlisonYoung> How do you copy chat text?
<Kythen> are you using mIRC?
<Kjartan> just hightlight it... it automatically goes to the clipboard
<AlisonYoung> yes
<Kythen> then you can just select it
<AlisonYoung> Just drag my cursor over it?
<Kjartan> yup
<Kythen> yep
<Kjartan> yap
<Kjartan> yip
<Kjartan> yop?
<AlisonYoung> but the darkness disappears.
<Kjartan> and it's copied
<Kjartan> try pasting
<Kjartan> you don't need to hit cntrl + c
<Kjartan> once highlighted, it's copied
<AlisonYoung> <HarryAvelon> hello
<AlisonYoung> <HarryAvelon> are you there?
<AlisonYoung> oh
<AlisonYoung> neat
<Kjartan> are you in harry's office
<AlisonYoung> no...
<Kjartan> err #harrysoffice
<AlisonYoung> is that where he is?
<Kjartan> yup
<AlisonYoung> should I answer him?
<Kjartan> should we go join him?
<Kythen> can't
<Kythen> locked
<AlisonYoung> oh...
<Kythen> [00:33] #harrysoffice unable to join channel (need correct key)
<AlisonYoung> will my IP give away my location?
<AlisonYoung> hold on.. I'm going to see what he wants.
<Kjartan> exact location? no. ISP's location yes.
<AlisonYoung> Kj: okay
<WisdomWarrior> is harry on irc?
<Kythen> yes
<Kjartan> yeah
<delusional696> what kind of "key" is it
<Kythen> room password
<delusional696> where do put the password?
<WisdomWarrior> how did someone know he was on irc?
<Kjartan> he messaged alison
<Kjartan> but kythen may have found out independently
<Kythen> after the #room in the /join command
<Kjartan> ahh
<Kythen> ./join #room <password>
<delusional696> ok thanks
<Kjartan> I tried betty
<Kythen> success?
<Kjartan> nope
<AlisonYoung> brb guys.
<Kjartan> everything cool?
<AlisonYoung> yeah
<WisdomWarrior> i guess that saves us an email lol
<Kjartan> hehe... and I was halfway done
<delusional696> does the password have to be in brackets?
<Kythen> no
<AlisonYoung> key word.. "thankyou"
<WisdomWarrior> are we supposed to join harrysoffice?
<Kythen> well, most of us are regardless Smile
<Six> I knoe I did Smile
<WisdomWarrior> how do you get in?
<Kythen> ./join #harrysoffice thankyou


Color Legend:
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Meanwhile, in#harrysoffice our heros meet a new challenge...

Quote:
Start of #harrysoffice buffer: Fri Jun 17 02:08:36 2005
* Now talking in #harrysoffice
<HarryAvelon> Hello.
<Kjartan> good evening Mr. Avelon
<AlisonYoung> So, what do you want?
<HarryAvelon> I already told you what I wanted.
<AlisonYoung> But why Derk?
<AlisonYoung> What does he have to do with any of this?
<HarryAvelon> You took him.
<AlisonYoung> I needed to.
<HarryAvelon> Why?
<AlisonYoung> Because I can save him.
<AlisonYoung> That's why.
<HarryAvelon> Really?
<HarryAvelon> And how do you plan on doing that?
<AlisonYoung> I'm not going to tell you.
<AlisonYoung> What makes you think that I would?
* WisdomWarrior has joined #harrysoffice
<HarryAvelon> Well, good luck with it.
<WisdomWarrior> Harry, how is it going?
<AlisonYoung> There is a reason why you brought be in here.
<AlisonYoung> What is it?
<Kjartan> He needs our help with his wife.
<HarryAvelon> I don't know if I want to say now.
<HarryAvelon> How do you know about my wife?
<Kjartan> We can help.
<Kjartan> We are fairly well informed
<HarryAvelon> So I see.
<Kjartan> Although, we don't know exactly what Mr. Boucher has done
<HarryAvelon> I suppose there are things you all want to know also?
<WisdomWarrior> yeah
<HarryAvelon> Lyle! Don't get me started on him.
<WisdomWarrior> we have questions ourselves Harry
<HarryAvelon> Please.
<Kythen> the more we work together, the better our chances are for saving all the patients
<AlisonYoung> As do I.
<HarryAvelon> I don't know.
<HarryAvelon> This has gotten way out of hand.
<HarryAvelon> Now Lyle is saying he's going to call the FDA.
<Kjartan> well... you can be rest assued that if all of us are aware of Mr. Boucher's plans, the secret isn't
that secure
<HarryAvelon> I just wish I knew the password for the "ARM".
<HarryAvelon> I just never thought... well, you probably know that too.
<HarryAvelon> That is true.
<HarryAvelon> But this isn't that simple.
<Kjartan> of course not
<WisdomWarrior> I was one of the last people to speak to Richard.... he was a good man who felt extremely guity
about what was going on
<Kjartan> well let's start with this: how can we help you?
<HarryAvelon> If I rat on Lyle, then I lose all hope of getting the "ARM" where it's supposed to be. I lose all
funding.
<HarryAvelon> As do I, wisdom.
<HarryAvelon> The problem is fixing the problem.
<WisdomWarrior> can you do me a favor Mr. Avelon?
<HarryAvelon> wisdom. I guess so.
<HarryAvelon> It depends.
<WisdomWarrior> can we let Richard be the last one that has to suffer?
<HarryAvelon> Don't think that your mind games are going to work on me the way they did on Richard.
<HarryAvelon> You over estimate me, wisdom.
<HarryAvelon> under estimate.
<Kjartan> wisdom is known for his flair for drama.
<WisdomWarrior> I did not mean for it to sound like that Harry
<HarryAvelon> So I've heard.
<HarryAvelon> Well, then don't.
<Kjartan> So you've heard a bit about us as well?
<HarryAvelon> I've heard a few things.
<WisdomWarrior> obviously about me
<HarryAvelon> But I didn't know how many there were.
<Kjartan> and this is only the night crew.
<Kythen> half the night crew
<HarryAvelon> nice to know.
* AlisonYoung is letting the masters handle this one.
<Kythen> mr. avelon, you are obviously aware of what we've done to help alison
<Kythen> we'd like to be able to help you in the same way
<Kythen> besides the ARM password, is there anything else you need?
<Kjartan> so, what you want is the ARM, the code, and your wife's safety. Not necissarily in that order.
<HarryAvelon> that is true.
<HarryAvelon> The code would be nice.
<HarryAvelon> And you can help with that?
<Kjartan> what we need to know is who has the missing ARM and why it is different.
<Kjartan> we can try... we've come this far.
<HarryAvelon> We had an employee that we believe is the one who stole it.
<HarryAvelon> But we don't know where he is.
<Kjartan> Can you tell us a bit about him?
<HarryAvelon> He was Head of our Security.
<delusional696> so why is the missing ARM special?
<delusional696> or how
<HarryAvelon> the "ARM" is the only thing that allows me to be with my wife.
<HarryAvelon> That is why it is special to me.
<HarryAvelon> And why I want it back.
<Kjartan> I understand... well then, this will become a priority of ours.
<HarryAvelon> I don't know how you can help with that though.
<Kjartan> Is she approaching the "fatal flaw" date?
<HarryAvelon> No.
<HarryAvelon> Not for another year.
<Kjartan> thank heaven for small favors
<HarryAvelon> I waited as long as I could stand.
<AlisonYoung> Is your wife a patient, then?
<HarryAvelon> Yes.
<HarryAvelon> But she is under a different name.
<HarryAvelon> I didn't want anyone to know she was here.
<HarryAvelon> Or what I was doing in my office.
<Kjartan> apparently the one man who really shouldn't know found out.
<HarryAvelon> It looks that way. But I can't change that now.
<Kjartan> I agree. I think that we're in damage control mode now.
<Kythen> does lyle have an office at Avelon Tech?
<HarryAvelon> Do you have plans to get the password?
<HarryAvelon> yes. But he's hardly ever there.
<Kjartan> We're working on it... I believe that we are fairly close.
<Kjartan> Do you know whether this flaw is hardware or software related?
<HarryAvelon> Is there anything that I can do on this end?
<HarryAvelon> The flaw is in the chip itself.
<HarryAvelon> Lyle had a "special" company make it for us.
<HarryAvelon> But he's the only one who has contact with them.
<HarryAvelon> So I don't know who they are.
<Kjartan> So in order to save Mr. Tollins and Betty, we'll need new chips made?
<HarryAvelon> Or where they are located.
<Kjartan> damn... that makes things much more difficult.
<HarryAvelon> So, the password is definitely important.
<HarryAvelon> If you can find the "ARM" please let me know.
<HarryAvelon> It is important to me.
<Kjartan> I believe that our plan should put the password in our hands before too long.
<Kjartan> How can we contact you securely?
<Kythen> someplace outside of the avelon tech network if possible
<HarryAvelon> send a message through Eric. Tell him that you want to meet with me.
<Kjartan> Do you really trust him that much?
<HarryAvelon> Yes. He's a good man.
<Kjartan> are you at all familiar with encryption Mr. Avelon?
<HarryAvelon> I've done some looking around at it. why?
<Kythen> i would suggest that we use it when contacting each other
<HarryAvelon> such as?
<Kjartan> IF there is something we need to communicate to you securely, we should use a vignere cypher with a
key of "trust in us"
<HarryAvelon> Honestly, I don't know about that.
<HarryAvelon> I do know about the Ceasar code though.
<HarryAvelon> I believe it's also known as a ROT?
<Kythen> correct
<Kjartan> that's fine... we'll use a ceasar code with a shift of 23?
<HarryAvelon> okay.
<HarryAvelon> I'll do my best to do the same.
<Kythen> thank you
<HarryAvelon> Well, I must go.
<Kjartan> have a good evening Mr. Avelon.
<HarryAvelon> same to you.
<WisdomWarrior> Harry, I am sorry about Richard
<Kythen> yes, good night mr. avelon
<Kjartan> I trust we'll both be in better positions due to our meeting
* HarryAvelon has quit IRC (Quit: )
<Kjartan> well... that went fairly well.
<WisdomWarrior> He must think I killed Richard
* AlisonYoung has left #harrysoffice
<Kjartan> I'll post this.
<Kythen> ok
* delusional696 has left #harrysoffice
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Start of #harrysoffice buffer: Fri Jun 17 02:08:36 2005
* Now talking in #harrysoffice
<HarryAvelon> Hello.
<Kjartan> good evening Mr. Avelon
<AlisonYoung> So, what do you want?
<HarryAvelon> I already told you what I wanted.
<AlisonYoung> But why Derk?
<AlisonYoung> What does he have to do with any of this?
<HarryAvelon> You took him.
<AlisonYoung> I needed to.
<HarryAvelon> Why?
<AlisonYoung> Because I can save him.
<AlisonYoung> That's why.
<HarryAvelon> Really?
<HarryAvelon> And how do you plan on doing that?
<AlisonYoung> I'm not going to tell you.
<AlisonYoung> What makes you think that I would?
* WisdomWarrior has joined #harrysoffice
<HarryAvelon> Well, good luck with it.
<WisdomWarrior> Harry, how is it going?
<AlisonYoung> There is a reason why you brought be in here.
<AlisonYoung> What is it?
<Kjartan> He needs our help with his wife.
<HarryAvelon> I don't know if I want to say now.
<HarryAvelon> How do you know about my wife?
<Kjartan> We can help.
<Kjartan> We are fairly well informed
<HarryAvelon> So I see.
<Kjartan> Although, we don't know exactly what Mr. Boucher has done
<HarryAvelon> I suppose there are things you all want to know also?
<WisdomWarrior> yeah
<HarryAvelon> Lyle! Don't get me started on him.
<WisdomWarrior> we have questions ourselves Harry
<HarryAvelon> Please.
<Kythen> the more we work together, the better our chances are for saving all the patients
<AlisonYoung> As do I.
<HarryAvelon> I don't know.
<HarryAvelon> This has gotten way out of hand.
<HarryAvelon> Now Lyle is saying he's going to call the FDA.
<Kjartan> well... you can be rest assued that if all of us are aware of Mr. Boucher's plans, the secret isn't
that secure
<HarryAvelon> I just wish I knew the password for the "ARM".
<HarryAvelon> I just never thought... well, you probably know that too.
<HarryAvelon> That is true.
<HarryAvelon> But this isn't that simple.
<Kjartan> of course not
<WisdomWarrior> I was one of the last people to speak to Richard.... he was a good man who felt extremely guity
about what was going on
<Kjartan> well let's start with this: how can we help you?
<HarryAvelon> If I rat on Lyle, then I lose all hope of getting the "ARM" where it's supposed to be. I lose all
funding.
<HarryAvelon> As do I, wisdom.
<HarryAvelon> The problem is fixing the problem.
<WisdomWarrior> can you do me a favor Mr. Avelon?
<HarryAvelon> wisdom. I guess so.
<HarryAvelon> It depends.
<WisdomWarrior> can we let Richard be the last one that has to suffer?
<HarryAvelon> Don't think that your mind games are going to work on me the way they did on Richard.
<HarryAvelon> You over estimate me, wisdom.
<HarryAvelon> under estimate.
<Kjartan> wisdom is known for his flair for drama.
<WisdomWarrior> I did not mean for it to sound like that Harry
<HarryAvelon> So I've heard.
<HarryAvelon> Well, then don't.
<Kjartan> So you've heard a bit about us as well?
<HarryAvelon> I've heard a few things.
<WisdomWarrior> obviously about me
<HarryAvelon> But I didn't know how many there were.
<Kjartan> and this is only the night crew.
<Kythen> half the night crew
<HarryAvelon> nice to know.
* AlisonYoung is letting the masters handle this one.
<Kythen> mr. avelon, you are obviously aware of what we've done to help alison
<Kythen> we'd like to be able to help you in the same way
<Kythen> besides the ARM password, is there anything else you need?
<Kjartan> so, what you want is the ARM, the code, and your wife's safety. Not necissarily in that order.
<HarryAvelon> that is true.
<HarryAvelon> The code would be nice.
<HarryAvelon> And you can help with that?
<Kjartan> what we need to know is who has the missing ARM and why it is different.
<Kjartan> we can try... we've come this far.
<HarryAvelon> We had an employee that we believe is the one who stole it.
<HarryAvelon> But we don't know where he is.
<Kjartan> Can you tell us a bit about him?
<HarryAvelon> He was Head of our Security.
<delusional696> so why is the missing ARM special?
<delusional696> or how
<HarryAvelon> the "ARM" is the only thing that allows me to be with my wife.
<HarryAvelon> That is why it is special to me.
<HarryAvelon> And why I want it back.
<Kjartan> I understand... well then, this will become a priority of ours.
<HarryAvelon> I don't know how you can help with that though.
<Kjartan> Is she approaching the "fatal flaw" date?
<HarryAvelon> No.
<HarryAvelon> Not for another year.
<Kjartan> thank heaven for small favors
<HarryAvelon> I waited as long as I could stand.
<AlisonYoung> Is your wife a patient, then?
<HarryAvelon> Yes.
<HarryAvelon> But she is under a different name.
<HarryAvelon> I didn't want anyone to know she was here.
<HarryAvelon> Or what I was doing in my office.
<Kjartan> apparently the one man who really shouldn't know found out.
<HarryAvelon> It looks that way. But I can't change that now.
<Kjartan> I agree. I think that we're in damage control mode now.
<Kythen> does lyle have an office at Avelon Tech?
<HarryAvelon> Do you have plans to get the password?
<HarryAvelon> yes. But he's hardly ever there.
<Kjartan> We're working on it... I believe that we are fairly close.
<Kjartan> Do you know whether this flaw is hardware or software related?
<HarryAvelon> Is there anything that I can do on this end?
<HarryAvelon> The flaw is in the chip itself.
<HarryAvelon> Lyle had a "special" company make it for us.
<HarryAvelon> But he's the only one who has contact with them.
<HarryAvelon> So I don't know who they are.
<Kjartan> So in order to save Mr. Tollins and Betty, we'll need new chips made?
<HarryAvelon> Or where they are located.
<Kjartan> damn... that makes things much more difficult.
<HarryAvelon> So, the password is definitely important.
<HarryAvelon> If you can find the "ARM" please let me know.
<HarryAvelon> It is important to me.
<Kjartan> I believe that our plan should put the password in our hands before too long.
<Kjartan> How can we contact you securely?
<Kythen> someplace outside of the avelon tech network if possible
<HarryAvelon> send a message through Eric. Tell him that you want to meet with me.
<Kjartan> Do you really trust him that much?
<HarryAvelon> Yes. He's a good man.
<Kjartan> are you at all familiar with encryption Mr. Avelon?
<HarryAvelon> I've done some looking around at it. why?
<Kythen> i would suggest that we use it when contacting each other
<HarryAvelon> such as?
<Kjartan> IF there is something we need to communicate to you securely, we should use a vignere cypher with a
key of "trust in us"
<HarryAvelon> Honestly, I don't know about that.
<HarryAvelon> I do know about the Ceasar code though.
<HarryAvelon> I believe it's also known as a ROT?
<Kythen> correct
<Kjartan> that's fine... we'll use a ceasar code with a shift of 23?
<HarryAvelon> okay.
<HarryAvelon> I'll do my best to do the same.
<Kythen> thank you
<HarryAvelon> Well, I must go.
<Kjartan> have a good evening Mr. Avelon.
<HarryAvelon> same to you.
<WisdomWarrior> Harry, I am sorry about Richard
<Kythen> yes, good night mr. avelon
<Kjartan> I trust we'll both be in better positions due to our meeting
* HarryAvelon has quit IRC (Quit: )
<Kjartan> well... that went fairly well.
<WisdomWarrior> He must think I killed Richard
* AlisonYoung has left #harrysoffice
<Kjartan> I'll post this.
<Kythen> ok
* delusional696 has left #harrysoffice
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Alison stopped in IRC at about 2:30pm central today.
she wanted to get things moveing in regards to harry. so i sent him this email as directed by alison.

Mr. avelon

I'll get right to the point. We know where the "ARM" is.
But before we give you that information we need you to help us.
First we need to know how you got out of the "ARM" without the password.
second you need to call Lyle and tell him everything you know.
don't ask why we need these things just be assured we are working
towards the same goal.
finally you need to come to IRC ASAP.

I trust you will act quickly. time is running out.

Team Tollin

i'll post his replay if/when i get one.

EDIT: heres the convo

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* AlisonYoung has joined #avelon
<AlisonYoung> hello.
<Russell> hi Alison
<AlisonYoung> life.
<AlisonYoung> hello, Russell.
<Russell> how is everything going?
<AlisonYoung> Great. Tracy is done loading the AvelonTech building into the program.
<Russell> fantastic, do you have an ETA for when you will be going ahead with it?
<AlisonYoung> Anybody get any news from Harry about the "ARM" that we have?
<AlisonYoung> Or a meeting?
<AlisonYoung> or anything?
<Russell> unfortunately i need to restart my puter to get it, be back in 5 mins?
<AlisonYoung> okay.
<Russell> brb#
* Russell has quit IRC (Quit: Immersion Unlimited Chat User)
* Russell has joined #avelon
<AlisonYoung> wb
<Russell> sorry bout that
<AlisonYoung> that's okay.
<Russell> nobody has posted anything since the meeting in harrys office
<AlisonYoung> ETA... I would like to go in by Sunday... but without knowing more about the "ARM" that we have, I don't know if I can.
<Russell> I dont blame you!
<AlisonYoung> Do you know if anyone has tried to contact Harry?
<Russell> Nobody has said they would
<Russell> at least not to me
<AlisonYoung> oh.
<AlisonYoung> okay...
<AlisonYoung> that's disturbing.
<Russell> let me check again
<Russell> im sure they must have done, that was the last thing that was discussed in the meeting
<AlisonYoung> oh, good.
<Russell> silly timezones!
<AlisonYoung> Well, if I don't know anything new by Sunday, we might have to tell Derk to go in and get it.
<Russell> i really dont like that idea much
<AlisonYoung> Well, no one else will be in the building. So it's not that bad.
<AlisonYoung> We only loaded the one security camera in Richards' Office.
<Russell> yeah but something always gets overlooked
<AlisonYoung> It should be an empty building since the program will not be able to use the rest of the security cameras to load people into it.
<AlisonYoung> It sure does... but I don't know what it could be.
<AlisonYoung> It seems simple enough. But you never know.
<Russell> what does tracy think about you going in?
<AlisonYoung> She's about as happy and concerned about it as I am.
<AlisonYoung> All we can say for sure is that the "ARM" that we have does not need a password to get out of.
<AlisonYoung> But HOW to get out?
<AlisonYoung> That we don't know.
<Russell> which is why we need harry...
<AlisonYoung> right....
<delusional696> hello:) what's going on?
<AlisonYoung> hello, delusional.
<Russell> why did nobody ask him in the meeting?
<Russell> hi delusional
<AlisonYoung> I'm trying to light a fire under "Team Tollin".
<delusional696> Smile
<Russell> delusional do you know who sent the email to harry?
<delusional696> no idea
<Russell> Sad
* AlisonYoung grabs the pom-poms.
<Russell> lol
<Russell> do you want to send one now, delusional?
<delusional696> an email to harry?
<Russell> yeah in rot 23
<delusional696> and ask about the meeting?
<AlisonYoung> Ask about everything.
<delusional696> or what
<Russell> <HarryAvelon> send a message through Eric. Tell him that you want to meet with me.
<Russell> doesnt need to be a long message
<delusional696> so if i send it to harry's email eric will get it to him?
<Russell> yup
<AlisonYoung> if you send it via @avelontech.com
<AlisonYoung> Harrys' excite mail account doesn't seem to be receiving any mail.
<AlisonYoung> or "accepting" any mail.
<delusional696> ok, well what do you want to know from him alison?
<AlisonYoung> How did he get out of the "ARM" without using a password?
<AlisonYoung> Also, since we are checking the phone logs....
<AlisonYoung> Get him to call Lyle and tell him everything.
<delusional696> hmmm... do you think he'll do that
<AlisonYoung> well, I don't know for sure... but it's worth the shot. We don't have a lot of time before Lyle catches on and decided to call Mr. FDA.
<AlisonYoung> decides.
<AlisonYoung> I think getting Lyle to "spill the beans" will give us what we need to go to the authorities with.
<Russell> do you think he would spill them that easily?
<AlisonYoung> No. But even a little bit of info might be helpfull.
<delusional696> ok, i'll send an email. should i also try to set up a metting inhere with him?
<AlisonYoung> yes.
<delusional696> any specific time good for you?
<AlisonYoung> Shoot for this time tomorrow.
<delusional696> ok 3pm central tomorrow
<AlisonYoung> or earlier... try like 2pm.
<Russell> the sooner the better, wouldnt a meeting later tonight be better?
<AlisonYoung> yeah... okay...
<delusional696> will do. but i'll be at work then:(
<AlisonYoung> ummm....
<AlisonYoung> okay... send this...
<Russell> you did say every second counts..
<AlisonYoung> How about just tell him to get here ASAP.
<AlisonYoung> Smile
<delusional696> ok, i'm going to send the email now. i'll be back
<Russell> someones bound to be in here!
<AlisonYoung> We may have to feed him a little info to get anything out of him.
<delusional696> so should i give him something too?
<Russell> prob a good point
<Russell> he dooes have us over a barrel
<delusional696> should i tell him i know where the arm is?
<AlisonYoung> That's probably best.
<delusional696> ok
<AlisonYoung> "And if you want to know where it is you'll come to the IRC room ASAP."
<AlisonYoung> I'm confrontational... what can I say?
<Russell> have you managed to work out who betty could be out of the patients?
<AlisonYoung> Not yet.
<AlisonYoung> But I have Emily working on that.
<AlisonYoung> She's spying on Harry as we speak.
<AlisonYoung> To see who he visits the most.
<Russell> i mean do we know for def its his wife? could it be a daughter? I cant remember if he said either way
<AlisonYoung> Lyle said "wife"... so I'm assuming it's that.
<Russell> ok sorry
<Russell> Embarassed
<AlisonYoung> That's okay.. it's hard for me to remember things sometimes as well.
<AlisonYoung> So much to keep in one place.
* AlisonYoung thinks she's used up the normal required space in her brain.
<Russell> lol
<Russell> and the new stuff keeps pushing old stuff out (Homer)
<AlisonYoung> hehe
<AlisonYoung> Go Simpsons!
<AlisonYoung> I just learned that the Simpsons are located in Illinois.
<Russell> are they?? how?
<AlisonYoung> Stupid me didn't even realize that.
<Russell> i know there are always hints, but not being american it passes me by
<AlisonYoung> Springfield, Illinois... and there are a few other refrences.
<AlisonYoung> They never come out and say it.
<AlisonYoung> So it is kinda hard to say for sure.
<AlisonYoung> But all the evidence points to it.
<Russell> one of the great mysteries!
<AlisonYoung> Yes.
<AlisonYoung> Someone said that the answer the question "What is the meaning of life" is "To learn". It's the only thing that we do from birth to death.
<Russell> nah its 42
<AlisonYoung> You see.. that's what I thought as well.
<Russell> so long so long and thanks for all the fish
<AlisonYoung> I mean, come on, 42 is a much better answer.
<Russell> have you heard from derk lately?
<AlisonYoung> We have been contacting him a little here and there.
<AlisonYoung> He seems a little depressed right now.
<AlisonYoung> I think it's finally hitting him.
<Russell> has he deduced anything yet?
<AlisonYoung> Well, we have told him about his world not being real. I think he just pushed that aside at first.
<AlisonYoung> But it appears to me that he's really thinking about it hard now.
<Russell> esp who was in the car
<AlisonYoung> Yeah.
<AlisonYoung> I can't tell what he's thinking.
<AlisonYoung> But whatever it is, he's not enjoying it.
<Russell> what about lisa?
<AlisonYoung> I saw her stop over yesterday. It looks like they talked for a few hours. But that's all.
<AlisonYoung> I think he's in a "what's the point of doing anything" mode right now.
<Russell> i think if i found out id make the most of it!
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<Russell> you know that its not real so whats the worst that can happen
<AlisonYoung> Well, he'll come around.
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<AlisonYoung> But he'll be out before then.. we hope.
<Russell> have any more "discussions" been located?
<Russell> have any more "discussions" been located?
<AlisonYoung> I found a few. Nothing really interesting, though.
<AlisonYoung> Mostly stuff that's already been discussed.
<Russell> as long as you dont think there is anything hidden in them
<AlisonYoung> No... I've learned to look now. Smile
<AlisonYoung> Well, I better go.
<AlisonYoung> I'll talk to you guys later.
<AlisonYoung> Have a great day.
<Russell> ok cu soon
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:20 pm
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HarryAvelon popped into chat.

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<22:28:34> - * HarryAvelon (HarryAveloSPLAT3d344119.35556308.client.insightBB.com) has joined #avelon
<22:29:34> - <wisdomwarrior> Good evening Harry
<22:29:41> - <HarryAvelon> good evening wisdom
<22:29:42> - <Kjartan|inthebackground> hello harry
<22:29:48> - * Kjartan|inthebackground is now known as Kjartan
<22:29:53> - <HarryAvelon> hello kjartan
<22:30:01> - <wisdomwarrior> how are you doing Harry
<22:30:06> - <Kjartan> Didn't think you would make it in this evening
<22:30:06> - * Six (~CSJava810@25b55acd.11de379d.auckland.ac.nz) has joined #avelon
<22:30:13> - <HarryAvelon> im doing okay
<22:30:21> - <HarryAvelon> well ive been busy
<22:31:11> - <wisdomwarrior> thats understandable
<22:31:37> - <wisdomwarrior> i take it you got the email today?
<22:31:41> - <HarryAvelon> so ive heard that you people know where the arm is
<22:31:46> - <HarryAvelon> yes i did
<22:31:52> - <Kjartan> we've made contact with Jarod
<22:32:02> - <HarryAvelon> and
<22:32:07> - <HarryAvelon> he has it
<22:32:10> - <wisdomwarrior> yeah
<22:32:20> - <HarryAvelon> is he willing to part with it
<22:32:41> - <wisdomwarrior> if the price is right
<22:32:45> - <HarryAvelon> price
<22:32:54> - <wisdomwarrior> well surely we arent just going to hand it over
<22:33:01> - <wisdomwarrior> we did ask you to do some things for us
<22:33:36> - <HarryAvelon> okay and so you want the answers to your questions then
<22:33:50> - <wisdomwarrior> that would be helpful for starters
<22:34:16> - <HarryAvelon> the person who has the arm on is aware that he or she is in an alternate reality world
<22:34:54> - <wisdomwarrior> we were under the assumption that all the ARMs were in the same world, is that correct?
<22:35:19> - <HarryAvelon> they are connected to the same network but not this one
<22:35:32> - <HarryAvelon> with this one you can connect to any persons program and enter it
<22:35:37> - <HarryAvelon> only that person can see you
<22:35:40> - <HarryAvelon> no one else
<22:35:58> - <wisdomwarrior> and that is the only way to be with your wife
<22:36:21> - <Kythen> is the chip different, or the software?
<22:36:23> - <HarryAvelon> without putting on an arm with the flaw yes
<22:36:32> - <HarryAvelon> the chip is different
<22:36:42> - <HarryAvelon> but getting a copy of it had been quite hard
<22:36:53> - <HarryAvelon> ive tried believe me ive tried
<22:37:11> - <Kythen> are there any other companies that could check it out?
<22:37:34> - <HarryAvelon> ive had some check it out but the cost involved in making one was something that i currently can not afford
<22:38:08> - <HarryAvelon> this chip is really top notch
<22:38:08> - <wisdomwarrior> Harry, do all the ARMs need a password to remove them?
<22:38:18> - <HarryAvelon> lyle went all out on it
<22:38:30> - <HarryAvelon> besides the one that jarod has yes
<22:38:47> - <wisdomwarrior> and that is the only way to remove them?
<22:38:52> - <wisdomwarrior> via password
<22:39:14> - <HarryAvelon> well no you can remove them but that would cause almost immediate death to the patient
<22:39:34> - <Kjartan> Harry, you got out from inside of the ARM that is missing. How did you do it? Did you have external help?
<22:40:15> - <HarryAvelon> the other arm allows the person who has it on to realize that they are in an alternate world
<22:40:36> - <HarryAvelon> the knowledge alone give that person the ability to reach up and take it off
<22:40:53> - <Kjartan> and once you realize it, you can force yourself up... excellent.
<22:41:16> - <Kythen> harry, do you know how the password is originally set in an ARM?
<22:41:35> - <Kythen> is it something hard-coded in the chip, or is it set through software?
<22:41:58> - <HarryAvelon> richard would have been better suited to answer that type of question
<22:42:10> - <HarryAvelon> but i can tell you that its not in the chip
<22:42:49> - <HarryAvelon> how he had it set up i do not know
<22:43:07> - <wisdomwarrior> have you been in his office yet?
<22:43:23> - <HarryAvelon> we are trying to get into it but have not had any luck up to this point in time
<22:43:53> - <wisdomwarrior> i know this may be tough, but did you tell lyle everything
<22:44:11> - <HarryAvelon> im working on it i had a conversation with him today
<22:44:20> - <wisdomwarrior> you need to tell him everything
<22:44:38> - <HarryAvelon> everything
<22:44:43> - <wisdomwarrior> everything
<22:44:55> - <HarryAvelon> i dont know if i can risk that
<22:45:14> - <wisdomwarrior> do you have a plan to save your wife?
<22:45:29> - <HarryAvelon> yes
<22:45:47> - <wisdomwarrior> how do you plan to do that
<22:45:48> - <HarryAvelon> fda approval get money get rid of lyle
<22:46:04> - <Kjartan> do you think that he'll let that go down so easily?
<22:46:19> - <HarryAvelon> the only think stopping me is the lack of money
<22:46:20> - <Kjartan> He has military people coming to your press day.
<22:46:27> - <HarryAvelon> i am aware of that
<22:46:35> - <Kythen> he certainly seems like the type of bastard that would blackmail you too
<22:46:37> - <wisdomwarrior> do you think they will let go of the ARM once they see it
<22:46:39> - <HarryAvelon> but without the other arm he can not show anyone what it can do
<22:47:01> - <wisdomwarrior> he has killed before
<22:47:18> - <wisdomwarrior> All of those patients, and indirectly Richard
<22:47:32> - <wisdomwarrior> i dont think he will go away so easily
<22:47:35> - <HarryAvelon> and directly would be who
<22:47:49> - <HarryAvelon> dont think that i have forgotten about you wisdom
<22:48:09> - <wisdomwarrior> surely you dont think that i did that
<22:48:21> - <Kjartan> it's his plan to put that flaw in. He is directly responsible for the deaths of damn near everyone at your facility in the last 2 years
<22:48:32> - <HarryAvelon> well he wasnt talking to himself the night before he died
<22:48:48> - <Kjartan> listen -- this isn't getting us anywhere.
<22:48:49> - <wisdomwarrior> im not going to argue with you Harry
<22:48:55> - <HarryAvelon> nor am i
<22:48:56> - <wisdomwarrior> Richard is dead
<22:49:00> - <HarryAvelon> this is true
<22:49:05> - <wisdomwarrior> and i dont want any more deaths
<22:49:14> - <HarryAvelon> nor do i
<22:49:16> - <wisdomwarrior> Derk, your wife, other patients or anyone else
<22:49:22> - <HarryAvelon> derk is last on the list
<22:49:29> - <HarryAvelon> after him its clear sailing
<22:49:30> - <Kjartan> Derk is the first on the list
<22:49:38> - <Kjartan> he doesn't have long harry, and you know that
<22:49:44> - <HarryAvelon> i do know that
<22:49:53> - <Kythen> there is no list, understood?
<22:49:59> - <Kythen> we save *everyone*
<22:50:00> - <Kythen> period
<22:50:13> - * KSG joins the conversation to agree with Kythen *
<22:50:13> - <wisdomwarrior> and put Lyle behind bars
<22:50:16> - <Kjartan> if we get him saved, all of the others will be simple
<22:50:27> - <Kythen> as much as you may want a nice clean solution with new funding, that isn't going to happen harry
<22:50:38> - <HarryAvelon> all of the others will be simple once we get into richards office
<22:50:41> - <Kythen> not until derk and the current patients are safe
<22:50:43> - <HarryAvelon> i do not see your point
<22:51:26> - <HarryAvelon> richards death could actually turn out to be a blessing in disguise
<22:51:43> - <Kjartan> if we get derk saved, lyle's FDA threat will disappear
<22:51:57> - <Kythen> my point is that i want you to stop thinking that this problem is something you can wait out
<22:52:00> - <Kjartan> no deaths, no threat... then we can get you closer to that FDA grant
<22:52:02> - <Kythen> that derk is expendable
<22:52:09> - <Kythen> he's not
<22:52:10> - <HarryAvelon> lyle will have no ground to stand on if all of the patients are out of their arms
<22:52:19> - <Kythen> and we're running out of time
<22:52:22> - <HarryAvelon> which is what we will do as soon as we get into richards office
<22:52:53> - <Kythen> so what can you do to help us all get into richards office quicker?
<22:53:09> - <HarryAvelon> we are in agreement but you are working on a different timeframe then i am
<22:53:16> - <Kjartan> we have assets working on a solution to this problem
<22:53:17> - <HarryAvelon> i understand that derks time is coming to an end
<22:53:24> - <HarryAvelon> but i can not be worried about that right now
<22:53:36> - <Kythen> i don't exactly agree with that
<22:53:37> - <HarryAvelon> the only thing that i can worry about is getting the arm and into richards office
<22:53:51> - <Kythen> richard's office is our #1 priority
<22:53:54> - <Kythen> and yours as well
<22:54:12> - <HarryAvelon> well i guess well just have to see who gets there first
<22:54:24> - <wisdomwarrior> harry
<22:54:26> - <Kythen> i did not mean that as a competition
<22:54:27> - <wisdomwarrior> dont be like that
<22:54:31> - <Kjartan> this shouldn't be a race.
<22:54:32> - <wisdomwarrior> we are a team
<22:54:42> - * Kjartan gives harry a team tollins badge
<22:54:43> - * Lora (~Lora@3065b4fc.37148937.owb.bellsouth.net) has joined #avelon
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<22:54:46> - <HarryAvelon> i understand where you stand
<22:54:48> - * Kjartan hates that name.
<22:55:00> - <Kjartan> hello lora. Have you met Harry Avelon?
<22:55:02> - * KSG prefers the singular "Team Tollin" *
<22:55:05> - <KSG> Hey Lora.
<22:55:11> - <wisdomwarrior> hey Lora
<22:55:13> - <KSG> You only missed...everything.
<22:55:21> - <Lora> No I haven't, hello Mr. Avelon
<22:55:27> - <HarryAvelon> hello lora
<22:55:50> - <Kjartan> If you stand with us. We are loyal. We will stand behind you when you need us.
<22:56:15> - <HarryAvelon> well i have done my part
<22:56:15> - <Kjartan> and you know you can't do this alone...
<22:56:20> - <HarryAvelon> i have told you what you wanted to know
<22:56:29> - <HarryAvelon> so tell me where my arm is
<22:56:33> - <HarryAvelon> and ill leave you alone
<22:56:36> - <wisdomwarrior> did you tell Lyle everything
<22:56:41> - <Kjartan> will you talk to lyle for us?
<22:56:59> - <HarryAvelon> what do you have without the arm
<22:57:06> - <Kjartan> It may take some time to get it from Jarod -- he's cagey.
<22:57:18> - <HarryAvelon> well one thing for one thing
<22:57:25> - <HarryAvelon> i have given you my one
<22:57:34> - <HarryAvelon> now lets see how loyal you really are
<22:57:43> - <HarryAvelon> i can wait
<22:57:50> - <Kjartan> since you're not on a tight schedule, you can wait a few days.
<22:57:57> - <wisdomwarrior> yeah
<22:58:30> - <HarryAvelon> i can wait as long as it takes us to get into richards office
<22:58:36> - <HarryAvelon> which will take us very much loner
<22:58:37> - <HarryAvelon> longer
<22:58:48> - <Kjartan> it will take us longer?
<22:59:00> - <HarryAvelon> without being here i would say yes
<22:59:04> - <wisdomwarrior> true
<22:59:15> - <wisdomwarrior> thats why we need your help
<22:59:23> - <wisdomwarrior> we have no way of getting in
<22:59:29> - <HarryAvelon> i can hand the password over to you once i have it
<22:59:39> - <HarryAvelon> but i can not guarentee that it will be in time
<22:59:50> - <Kjartan> We're moving quickly Harry... we'll get around that door shortly.
<23:00:03> - <HarryAvelon> well i must go
<23:00:15> - <HarryAvelon> i will wait for your loyalty
<23:00:23> - * HarryAvelon (HarryAveloSPLAT3d344119.35556308.client.insightBB.com) Quit (Quit: )


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:02 am
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Yes, I'm double-posting, but would you want to make an edit this big to a post that big? Speaking of which, these posts are getting way too long. I'm trimming out some irrelevant bits.

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<23:33:28> - <AlisonYoung> Got an e-mail that told me to come in here, so I'm here.
<23:33:37> - <wisdomwarrior> we had a talk with Harry
<23:33:45> - <AlisonYoung> Doesn't work that way all the time though.
<23:33:48> - <AlisonYoung> I heard.
<23:33:49> - <wisdomwarrior> he hasnt talked to Lyle
<23:33:52> - <Kythen> a less-than-encouraging one at that
<23:33:54> - <wisdomwarrior> and I dont think he will
<23:34:16> - <AlisonYoung> So, where do we go from here?
<23:34:23> - <AlisonYoung> With Harry I mean.
<23:34:37> - <wisdomwarrior> well the ARM is special because only the person connected to the ARM can see you
<23:34:52> - <wisdomwarrior> thats why he wants it, so he can spend time with his wife
<23:34:53> - <KSG> There isn't much we can do besides keep trying to get him to help....
<23:34:56> - <AlisonYoung> I don't understand.
<23:35:07> - <wisdomwarrior> if you had the special ARM on
<23:35:13> - <wisdomwarrior> and connected with Derk
<23:35:17> - <Kythen> and the person who wears this good ARM understands that it's a virtual world
<23:35:17> - <wisdomwarrior> only Derk could see you
<23:35:27> - <Kythen> so you can take it off without help
<23:35:28> - <AlisonYoung> Interesting.
<23:35:36> - <wisdomwarrior> plus its not rigged
<23:35:41> - <Kythen> which also implies it does not need a password
<23:35:41> - <wisdomwarrior> or did you already know that
<23:35:44> - <AlisonYoung> So that's how he was able to take it off without the pw.
<23:36:17> - <KSG> The only thing he wants from us is the ARM. He probably won't do anything for us until we give it to him (which obviously won't happen), and he may or may not keep his end of any bargain if we did.
<23:36:20> - <wisdomwarrior> and you need to get the password as soon as you can
<23:36:25> - <KSG> We're going to have to do this without his help.
<23:36:43> - <AlisonYoung> Is that what you have all agreed on?
<23:36:55> - <KSG> Not yet. Guys, agreed?
<23:36:55> - <wisdomwarrior> cuz once he figures out we arent gonna tell him where you and the ARM are, hes gonna get the password and use it as leverage

<23:37:56> - <AlisonYoung> Well, do you think that we have gotten everything that we need from him?
<23:38:05> - <wisdomwarrior> no
<23:38:10> - <wisdomwarrior> or i dont know
<23:38:12> - <Kythen> what else could we get from him?
<23:38:17> - <wisdomwarrior> we need evidence to bring Lyle down
<23:38:29> - <KSG> Which he'll never give us.
<23:38:32> - <wisdomwarrior> but i agree that we probably arent gonna get much more out of him
<23:38:39> - <wisdomwarrior> i got it
<23:38:53> - <AlisonYoung> Okay, so he has served his purpose then?
<23:38:55> - <wisdomwarrior> we get the password with the ARM and then give it to him for the info to convict Lyle
<23:39:06> - <AlisonYoung> That's a good idea
<23:39:32> - <KSG> After freeing Derk, I assume you mean. Yes, good idea.
<23:39:45> - <Kythen> sound like a reasonable trade to me
<23:40:02> - <wisdomwarrior> of course, once we have the password, the rest is gravy
<23:40:28> - <AlisonYoung> Problem #1
<23:40:28> - <wisdomwarrior> unless Lyle finds out and kills Harry
<23:40:34> - <KSG> So what we need to do now is basically forget about Harry until we have Derk out.
<23:40:55> - <AlisonYoung> Harry is probably looking for the password also.
<23:41:00> - <Kythen> yes, he is
<23:41:02> - <KSG> definitely.
<23:41:04> - <AlisonYoung> Since he does not have his "ARM"/
<23:41:04> - <wisdomwarrior> yeah, but he is slow
<23:41:11> - <AlisonYoung> okay, so we have time?
<23:41:12> - <Kythen> and gave a very strong impression that he will race us for it
<23:41:17> - <KSG> He doesn't seem to have a plan.
<23:41:24> - <AlisonYoung> Well, that's good to know.
<23:41:30> - <AlisonYoung> My problem was if he got it first.
<23:41:34> - <KSG> He just thinks that the physical office is the only way to get it, and therefore, assumes he has the advantage.
<23:41:42> - <KSG> What would happen then?
<23:41:45> - <wisdomwarrior> He wanted the password to trade for the ARM
<23:42:02> - <AlisonYoung> Well, he knows that we need to password to help Derk.
<23:42:18> - <AlisonYoung> If he gets it first, then he may not give it too us.
<23:42:21> - <AlisonYoung> He could hide it.
<23:42:38> - <wisdomwarrior> how soon can you be ready to go in
<23:42:41> - <wisdomwarrior> Alison
<23:42:47> - <AlisonYoung> I'm hoping by Sunday night.
<23:42:58> - <AlisonYoung> Maybe sooner.
<23:43:03> - <wisdomwarrior> i assume the password will be safe til then
<23:43:06> - <Kythen> sooner the better
<23:43:07> - <KSG> I like the "sooner" idea.
<23:43:15> - <AlisonYoung> sooner is really nice.
<23:43:29> - <AlisonYoung> And knowing that I'm really not in danger putting it on is nice as well.
<23:43:54> - <Kythen> still might not be a bad plan to have jarod and/or tracy around when you go in
<23:44:23> - <AlisonYoung> Oh, they will both be there.. well, not in there with me.. nm, you know what I mean.
<23:44:32> - <Kythen> yeah :)
<23:44:43> - <KSG> Good.
<23:45:22> - <Kythen> on a slightly different note, did you get my email about copying ARM software?
<23:45:29> - <AlisonYoung> yes, I did.
<23:45:32> - <AlisonYoung> And I responded.
<23:45:37> - <AlisonYoung> :)
<23:46:31> - <AlisonYoung> Oh.. and good news.
<23:46:48> - <AlisonYoung> I might be able to do some ninja stuff after all.
<23:46:59> - <KSG> Yay!
<23:47:02> - <Lora> lol
<23:47:03> - <AlisonYoung> well, not really ninja... but some brutal force entry.
<23:47:09> - <Kythen> w00t!
<23:47:11> - <KSG> Yay.
<23:47:33> - <AlisonYoung> Since we only loaded the one camera, there is nothing looking at the security panel on Richards' Door.
<23:47:40> - <AlisonYoung> So I might just be able to kick it in.
<23:47:42> - <AlisonYoung> :)
<23:47:47> - <Kythen> nice
<23:47:48> - <KSG> :)
<23:47:58> - <Lora> :-)
<23:48:08> - <wisdomwarrior> if you are wearing the special ARM, according to Harry, only Derk can see ya
<23:48:13> - <AlisonYoung> I thought you guys would like that. :)
<23:48:20> - <AlisonYoung> correct.
<23:48:21> - <Kythen> good to get some more practice in, just in case you ever run into Lyle ;)
<23:48:24> - <AlisonYoung> But I will see everyone else.
<23:48:38> - <KSG> Well...Derk is the only person who can see her. The cameras are not people. They are the environment.
<23:49:03> - <AlisonYoung> Derks' environment.
<23:49:09> - <KSG> Yes.
<23:49:26> - * AlisonYoung wonders if she'll run into Lisa
<23:49:35> - <KSG> Eep, Lisa.
<23:49:38> - <wisdomwarrior> that would be weird
<23:49:44> - <Kythen> to say the least
<23:49:50> - <AlisonYoung> Well, she wouldn't know.
<23:50:07> - <wisdomwarrior> are you gonna see Derk?
<23:50:08> - <KSG> How much of Derk's memory are you going to leave intact, anyway? I mean, you didn't want him to remember Lisa when he came out, did you?
<23:50:18> - <AlisonYoung> That's what we are working on right now.
<23:50:32> - <KSG> Yeah, for that matter...if Derk will see you while you do this, that's just as big a problem.
<23:50:35> - <AlisonYoung> Which is why we are shooting for Sunday, and not right now.
<23:50:40> - <KSG> Ah, I see.
<23:51:04> - <AlisonYoung> Well, I'm planning on telling Derk what is going to happen soon.
<23:51:42> - <AlisonYoung> I'm not sure where I will enter his environment, so it's probably better to tell him. Just in case.
<23:52:04> - <KSG> I guess so.
<23:52:17> - <AlisonYoung> It will be an interesting conversation.

Here's some really condensed extra crap:

<23:53:10> - <wisdomwarrior> did i ask you where you went to college
<23:53:59> - <wisdomwarrior> how old were you when you graduated
<23:54:02> - <wisdomwarrior> and where
<23:54:06> - <AlisonYoung> RIT
<23:54:20> - <AlisonYoung> Rochester Institute of Technology in Rochester, New York
<23:54:39> - <wisdomwarrior> how old were you when you graduated
<23:55:16> - <AlisonYoung> didn't graduate.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:03 am
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<DerkTollin> Wow... must be sleepy time, huh?
<Six> yeah, there's like no one on here
<Six> and I surely don't count
<DerkTollin> oh.. hello.
<DerkTollin> Sorry, watching Batman Begins trailors.

<Six> hi
<Six> oooh, I want to go see that
<Six> look good?
<DerkTollin> Same here.
<DerkTollin> yes.
<DerkTollin> over 2 hours long.

<Russell|bed> hi derk
<DerkTollin> hello, Russell
*** Russell|bed is now known as Russell
<DerkTollin> I heard that it's better then the rest of the movies.
<Six> same here
<DerkTollin> Oh... yeah... my purpose for coming in here... almost forgot.
* DerkTollin slaps himself awake.

<Russell> lol
<DerkTollin> I got an e-mail from Alison this morning.
<DerkTollin> Something about meeting me soon.
<DerkTollin> Do you know anything about this?

<Russell> i have only just got up, six were you on last night?
<Six> yeah, a bit
<Russell> bear with me whilst i skim read
<DerkTollin> oh.. okay.
<DerkTollin> skim reading sure takes awhile, huh?

<Russell> lol
<Russell> just wanna be sure!
<DerkTollin> oh... okay.
<DerkTollin> Anything?

<Russell> not much
<Russell> im afraid
<DerkTollin> darn. I was sure she would have said something to you guys about it by now.
<DerkTollin> I really don't understand it myself.
<DerkTollin> All it really said was for me to be prepared to see her within the next couple of days.
<DerkTollin> Hey, can you do me a favor?

<Russell> yeah of course#
<DerkTollin> If you hear anything about it, or if anyone else does, can you e-mail me? Or have them e-mail me?
<Russell> sure it will probably be in a few hours as thats when the others usually get here
<DerkTollin> Okay... well, I have to get some sleep. I've been up for over 12 hours and I'm pooped.


I didnt say too much as i didnt want to give anything away.

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Looks like Harry is supporting Team Tollin - just got an email from him (harryavelonSPLATexcite.com)
it was blank, except the subject was "BLANK check"
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At First I took BLANK check at face value.. but I had a feeling in the back of my head that there was something more to it than just that. And there is.....

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

As a puzzle what does it say...
BLANK check --> ________ check

So I looked up all word phrases that end in check to see if any stood out. I then tried those as webpage URLs and lo and behold....

http://www.avelontech.com/reality

We have been tricked! But scroll to the bottom for the hidden text.



Update:
Just so everyone knows, I sent an email to Alison about this, which she responded to:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):

Thank you very much. So, do you think Lyle was telling the truth about the "ARM" that we have?

step <-----@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found a new webpage at the Avelon Tech website,
http://www.avelontech.com/reality, after chippy
received a blank email from Harry with a subject of
"BLANK check"

There is some hidden text at the bottom of the page;
so I assume Harry did this.


Just wanted to keep you up-to-date,
- step

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