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[sledgecallier]

The Wiki lists the following as being arrested for the protest:

Estelle Sedgewick, Academy Senior Fellow
Maya Shorer and Juno Smythe, two of her graduate students
Keenan Thoreau, RFD
Damien Gold, Northside Protection League
Hillary Gilbert (protester)

Also Kyle Anderson is known to be an organizer for the NPL. However several thousand protestors apparently turned up (out of several million PXC citizens) so this is obviously not a very comprehensive list of those involved...

[dusty2229]

I've been away for a week and come back to a baffling mass of information.
Could someone help me understand how we got the "she" bit on the salkfamily.com site and from there to the wealth of stuff on the wikki?
Grately appreciated

[Mosestrotsky]

Once you have read the Salk family stuff - a maze was found and solved to locate more clues. Try going here to find out more

http://wiki.incognitus.net/ppc/index.php/Pietro_Salk

As to the location of TA - she/he (though I am leaning towards she) is below floor 170 but what would you consider a "quick jaunt" is. So there are lifts but if you were on floor 65 - travelling over a hundred floors with folk getting in/out would be, to me at least, not termed as quick.

Also I suppose she is near 125 - the trees floor.

[Mosestrotsky]

And as if by magic Scarlett Kiteway posts a wonderful blog about Ascendancy Point - coincidence I doubt it. Now to narrow TA's location down

[Seej]

But she doesn't mention the location of the bakery or the Arboretum

[Mosestrotsky]

Bakery that I know of is on 170 - arbetorium on 125 - I think that was curtesy of the other sister or even scarlett again but it has been mentioned. Or I am assuming things again.

[number9dream]

[Sparkles]

[Seej]

[Mosestrotsky]

I was initially going along the idea of a long lasting "neuro-toxin" that leaks into the brain - yes possibly similar to the one that killed that poor female security guard way back when.

Only problem I have is that open door mention by Sylvia. To me he let the person in and the person left after giving him the "toxin".

Trouble is would you leave a door open once you've killed someone and are leaving the scene?

Answer? Perhaps Pietro answered the door and was shot on the doorstep and he staggered back his desk to activate his key. Meanwhile the person just fled the scene. Maybe just maybe ....

[Mikeyj]

If it was something slow acting, or something that could be plantde on him and then activated later, then the 16th of June during the aborted meeting could have been an opportunity. Whoever the guy was that was watching them might well have been able to carry it out. Pietro wasn't aware of his presence.

Something else I was wondering about was that it might be useful to find out what Pietro was researching in the Academy library. Maybe we can use his password to get access...or if not get Violet to look into things. I'm still reluctant to get her involved until we know a little more, and Sylvia Salk is going to be hard to get information like that out of without her causing trouble...hmmm. Any thoughts?

[Mosestrotsky]

Actually it is definitely getting to a point where have to consider what can occur to those we may get involved (this of course includes any future people we have not met yet). We have already had a reaction to us contacting re the Reconstructionists.

Basically what I am saying is should we get Violet/Scarlett/Sente/Sylvia or whomever involved now and hope they dont get themselves killed or wait.

If we do - do we spread it throughout all the people - the more they know the less that can be done to those investigating for us or stick to one person - any of the Kiteways?

I know that this may be a moot point that there will be those that will contact or already have contacted those involved telling all or some what we know but what do people think?

[Leeravitz]

I was thinking the library might be an interesting field for investigation as well. We know that access to the catalogue is (theoretically) possible, but there are two limits:

1. We need someone's access codes to get in - Violet might have these, but I forget if she's actually an Academy student or not. It rather depends on how the Library works as to how access will be divvied out; in my experience of universities, they are generally quite stringent about the fact that you have to be an enrolled student before they give you access, and the Academy website appears to indicate the same thing. Violet might have once been a student, but even if so, they'll probably have changed the codes since she graduated and/or cancelled her account. That's how these things work in my experience. Scarlett is too young, I assume, to have enrolled at the Academy; she attends Marmelejo College. So, someone like Kurt, who is part of the Retrieval Team (and, as such, virtually a member of the Academy faculty) would be more likely to offer a route into the catalogue - whether we could persuade him to give Violet his codes on our behalf is another question.

2. If we can access the catalogue, we then have the problem of knowing what books we're searching for. There's unlikely to be any that are called 'History of the Perplex City Secret Society' (although I guess you never know). We might make some educated guesses about potentially interesting titles - what would a history of Hesketh Zeller reveal to us, for instance? But it's virtually impossible at this stage to know what books Salk was looking at. If we did locate some intriguing book titles on the catalogue, then we might not be able to find out much about the books in question other than their basic layout, publication dates etc. To read the actual book, we'd either have to find it on the shelves (!), or order it. I suppose it might be possible to either send one of our surrogates (e.g. Violet) into the library to look something up for us once we knew what we wanted, or even that we could prevail on Sente (or someone) to set us up a remote link so we can download the information if we needed, though.

3. It's interesting to speculate on how Salk was using the library. I suppose he could have just walked in off the street, with knowledge of what books he was looking for, inquired after them, and then sat down to read them without ever having had to access the catalogue and order the books himself. Then again, it might be the case that his contact TA is an Academy student/faculty member and gave him her codes. Or, it could be that, as a journalist, Salk has a special dispensation from the Library, and his own account, even though he isn't a student/member of the faculty.

What is (potentially) significant here is that, if Salk *does* have an account of his own [or used the catalogue at any time in his research], we might be able to call up the details of what he had borrowed provided we knew the code he was using. That, clearly, would give us some immediate further insight into what he was looking at. But, obviously, as this kind of thing is highly confidential, we'd need to know the precise code. Using Kurt's codes to open the catalogue would give us access to Kurt's lending history, but not to Salk's.

4. Of course, Violet *is* a librarian, isn't she? Maybe she knows a few tricks for overriding systems?? Could we sound her out on this, perhaps without revealing exactly what it is we're looking for?? After all, we may well maintain that we need to use all the resources available to us if we're to pursue our investigations, and Sente himself has 'authorised' this??

[Axys Denyed]

I think our best bet at the moment is to contact Violet. Being a librarian, she probably has access to the catalogue system (which can possibly be given to us), as well as access to Pietro Salk's records, showing what books he checked out and/or looked at.

[Leeravitz]

I agree that contacting Violet is a good idea...subtly, perhaps. However, she won't necessarily have access to the specific Academy systems just because she's a librarian. But she could know about certain generic features of cataloguing systems that may help us here.

On the other hand, do we actually know where Violet is a librarian *at*? Maybe she works at the Academy, and we haven't been picking up on that for all this time.