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Let's Bring Back the Fun
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Gupfee
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Joined: 22 Sep 2002
Posts: 817
Location: Massachusetts

 		Let's Bring Back the Fun
Last night, for the first time in a long time, I truly felt like a member of the community. I got to hang out in #heist and watch the end game. People were excited, people were chatty, people were happy to be there. People were willing to share info and repost details for folks who came into the channel late and wanted to know what was going on. It all felt very good.

It all felt very familiar. We used to be like this a lot more. I know it's been difficult lately, with all the negativity about launches and the like, but it can be like this more if we try. We're a good group of people, we're witty, we're intelligent and many of us are quite good-looking. Wink I want to ask everyone to take a step back, remember why they got interested in ARG in the first place, and try to get back to that simple joy. Because it's fun.

I want ARGs to be fun. I want to be entertained, and I want to hang out with people who derive the same enjoyment from them that I do. People who whine, people who snark, people who keep stirring the ashes of posts that turn into flamefests, are not fun. Yes, we all have our opinions, but it's time to let the meta stuff cool off a bit and focus on the games. If games are bad, if games are ill-designed, ignore them. If you are a PM and your game is being ignored, don't spam the forum with anonymous posts trying to prod people to play. Stop, rethink your design, and rewrite as necessary. As imbri so wonderfully said, PM responsibly. You don't get carte blanche just because you decide you want to run a game. You have to entertain, you have to intrigue. These are games. They are supposed to be fun. And quite honestly, the players know what is fun better than any would-be PM.

So, deep breath everyone. Reset. New game. Let's have fun.

Gupfee

Quote:
The only obligation to which in advance we may hold a novel, without incurring the accusation of being arbitrary, is that it be interesting.
--Henry James

Just substitute "ARG" for "novel"!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:45 am
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krystyn
I Never Tire of My Own Voice


Joined: 26 Sep 2002
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 		Gupfee, you just keep racking up those cool points.

Thank you for posting this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:02 am
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Omnie
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Joined: 07 Oct 2003
Posts: 772

 		I was just coming down here with a vague sense of dread, and then I saw this. Thank you!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:26 am
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imbriModerator
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Joined: 21 Sep 2002
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 		as guilty as I am for griping and such...

/me applauds

well said gup! well said.

- b

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:34 am
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Ehsan
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Joined: 09 May 2003
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 		Amen to that.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:49 am
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Varin
I Have No Life


Joined: 02 Dec 2002
Posts: 2456
Location: South of where I used to be

 		Thank you Gup. Thank you.
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Ozy_y2k
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002
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 		I'm sorry, I simply cannot agree to this specious line of reasoning. I am vehemently opposed to the existence, or even the mere APPEARANCE, of fun in any and all of its myriad forms. Meta is not about "fun". Meta is about relentless self-analysis, verging on the minutae-laden exploratory crawl deep into one's navel or up into the unreachable heights of one's symbolic intellectual colon. Meta makes no allowance whatsoever for useless displays of frivolity, enjoyment, fraternity or community. Criticism uber alles. Fight the power.

Ozy_y2k, signing as Primary Representative for S.T.O.O.P.I.D. C.R.A.P. (Society To Organize Opposition to Perniciously Intelligent Displays of Community Rallying behind ARG Playing)

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Varin
I Have No Life


Joined: 02 Dec 2002
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Location: South of where I used to be
Ozy_y2k wrote:
I'm sorry, I simply cannot agree to this specious line of reasoning. I am vehemently opposed to the existence, or even the mere APPEARANCE, of fun in any and all of its myriad forms. Meta is not about "fun". Meta is about relentless self-analysis, verging on the minutae-laden exploratory crawl deep into one's navel or up into the unreachable heights of one's symbolic intellectual colon. Meta makes no allowance whatsoever for useless displays of frivolity, enjoyment, fraternity or community. Criticism uber alles. Fight the power.

Ozy_y2k, signing as Primary Representative for S.T.O.O.P.I.D. C.R.A.P. (Society To Organize Opposition to Perniciously Intelligent Displays of Community Rallying behind ARG Playing)


OMG Laughing

Can I be Treasurer?
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PokeKiller
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Ozy_y2k wrote:
I'm sorry, I simply cannot agree to this specious line of reasoning. I am vehemently opposed to the existence, or even the mere APPEARANCE, of fun in any and all of its myriad forms. Meta is not about "fun". Meta is about relentless self-analysis, verging on the minutae-laden exploratory crawl deep into one's navel or up into the unreachable heights of one's symbolic intellectual colon. Meta makes no allowance whatsoever for useless displays of frivolity, enjoyment, fraternity or community. Criticism uber alles. Fight the power.

Ozy_y2k, signing as Primary Representative for S.T.O.O.P.I.D. C.R.A.P. (Society To Organize Opposition to Perniciously Intelligent Displays of Community Rallying behind ARG Playing)


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skilletaudio
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Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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 		Good lord that is hilarious.
Where in the world did this flaming bike originate from anyway?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:42 pm
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krystyn
I Never Tire of My Own Voice


Joined: 26 Sep 2002
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Location: Is not Chicago

 		Hey Ozy, I guess you won't mind if I take back that jar of Nutella then, eh?
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Ozy_y2k
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Joined: 25 Sep 2002
Posts: 460
Location: Carmel, Indiana

 		As Charlton Heston was wont to say: "You people can have my Nutella when you pry it from my COLD DEAD FINGERS."

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Ehsan
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Joined: 09 May 2003
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skilletaudio wrote:
Good lord that is hilarious.
Where in the world did this flaming bike originate from anyway?


You don't know the flaming nutter?
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11222

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Nightmare Tony
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 		Threadjacking once again, The day will come whern the fun will return, Gupfee. I think if we all do our part to bring it all back, it will....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:05 am
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krystyn
I Never Tire of My Own Voice


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 		How was that threadjacking? Dude, it was totally on topic!

Sunshine! Puppies! Rainbows!
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