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Pinchy
Boot
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 24
Key to the City - Objects in browser are bigger Okay, we all know about the Key to the City page when you enter Demosthenes. I've searched the forums and found very little reference to anyone actually DOING anything with this picture.
I've been studying it and thinking about it all day (yes, I actually have to work today being in Canada...), and the title made me really think.
The key to the city - could this mean a key for a map? The only thing I could think of was to overlay it with a map of some part of Dallas-Fort Worth, but I'm afraid my graphic talents are severely lacking.
Also, if you flip the image over vertically, in the bottom right you get a pretty clearly defined image of a computer chip. It also rights the building the chip is part of - and becomes the only one that is right-side-up.
Hope this clicks in someone else's mind.....
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:40 pm
Hedgemon
Kl00
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Two city clues thus far. This one, and off of the Genome keyword "The city never sleeps."
No idea, just throwing that out there.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:39 am
Pinchy
Boot
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 24
New York?
Hedgemon wrote:
Two city clues thus far. This one, and off of the Genome keyword "The city never sleeps."
No idea, just throwing that out there.
I just had a brainwave. The city [that] never sleeps = New York. The key to the city - the big blank rectangular part of the picture to the right of center, do you think it would overlay Central Park? Maybe this is just like the airport map, where it reveals a location instead. I'm not very good with Photoshop, but I'll see what I can do with it anyway.
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:48 am
Hedgemon
Kl00
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
That's good. If I was 1) any good at Photoshop, or 2) had it, I'd back you up on this.
Umm... can someone else give it a whirl?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:13 am
Pinchy
Boot
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 24
Found something! Look in the buildings at the bottom left. The 2nd building, has what appears to be the markings from a ruler/tape measure on it. I'm guessing that is there to give us an accurate representaton of the size to work with!
I think I've found the building in the bottom center of the picture, but only someone from Dallas would be able to tell for sure. Here is the link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=dallas,+tx&ll=32.775607,-96.800022&spn=0.007389,0.009917&t=k&hl=en
I'm determined to figure this damn picture out.
I have a friend who lives in Dallas, so I'll try and get ahold of her and see if she can tell me more about that building and if she recognizes any of the other buildings in the picture.
Until tomorrow....
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:29 am
yuethomas
Greenhorn
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 7
I believe that the phrase "objects in the browser are bigger than they appear." simply means that the image has been scaled down for display inside that webpage. If you open the image in its own browser window (or photoshop, or whatever), you'll find that it's quite a bit bigger than you've been led to believe.
Other than that, I don't believe that the dome in the picture is the Dallas, TX one. For one thing, the dome in the Google picture seems like it's constructed by stretching a piece of fabric (or sheet metal or something similar), whereas the dome in the Demosthenes picture is pieced together with glass.
I think we should try to find out what's superimposed on the picture, instead of the picture itself.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:03 am
Hedgemon
Kl00
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
yuethomas wrote:
I think we should try to find out what's superimposed on the picture, instead of the picture itself.
Is there anything superimposed?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:02 pm
yuethomas
Greenhorn
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 7
Well, that weird imprint in the sky. I don't think it can be anything other than a superimposition.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:43 pm
ShiFty
Greenhorn
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 9 Location: SiN CiTy
yuethomas wrote:
Well, that weird imprint in the sky. I don't think it can be anything other than a superimposition.
From the locked thread I believe...
Quote:
How much did Roma say? Sure he indicated that *he* didn't hide anything in the artwork, but did he specifically come out and say "the image is definitley not stegged" or "I didn't steg the image"
We'll I quote:
"Anyway, the painting is just "painterly", that's all. I am affraid to say that there isn't ANY puzzle pieces in it, nor is there any on my website."
I checked the file thru a hex-editor, and it looks regular.
Also the de-camouflage-r says it isnt camouflaged.
Maybe some other ...
Me thinks this is a dead end (famous last words.....)
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:04 pm
Pinchy
Boot
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 24
Okay, I've looked at hundreds of pictures of buildings in Dallas, and I have an idea that may spark someone else's imagination.
JP Morgan Chase building in downtown Dallas has a unique key-hole appearance to the top of it - this is a good picture to give you an idea.
http://www.dallassky.com/bldg04.htm
The other buildings pictures all are in the surrounding area. The Renaissance Tower for example, has the weird criss-cross lights like the lights on the righthand side of the picture. I've found all sorts of correlations to buildings in the picture, and they all seem to be in downtown Dallas.
Maybe this helps?
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:18 pm
Hedgemon
Kl00
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Googled [google]"Key to the City"[/google] and pulled up a webpage dedicated to listing every city in every state in the Union.
That smudgy bit at the top, when the edges are sharpened, sure looks like a city map.
Add to that the ridiculously clear numeral 8 in the center of the image, and the envelope to the right of it, I think we're looking for an eight-letter city, probably in Texas.
Unless I'm mistaken, but you be the judge.
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:48 am
3DR - Tedades
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I've put lots off time in this image.
Here is what I found:
-the red standing light change when you go to the right, looks like the image flips
-their is a aircraft just above the 8
-the left top corner looks like its been flipped, doesnt look like a regular side of a building
-next to the 8 are 8 windows, under that only 7
-lots of jpg compression in the black area of the big left building
-dots compaired with braille, but they werent clear enough to make out
I didnt find anything good, Roma said their was no puzzle in it so I stopped looking for one.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:14 am
JoMo
Boot
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 51
well why would they have put it in then.
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:21 pm
Pinchy
Boot
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 24
Solved[?] I think I've got this solved, but I'll leave it as a spoiler in case you don't want to know....
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
We've been staring at the answer the whole time along. Each building is an "enhanced" piece of the weapon revealed elsewhere. The left side building is the stock, the next building is the handle, the building with the 8 is the clip, and the piece with the envelope is to show us that the braile is below the barrel.
So Roma wasn't lying at all, there really wasn't anything hidden in the picture. The only significant part would be the envelope - in clear view - which would have eventually led us to the braille flash on the gun animation. Someone was just smart enough to see it on the gun before we had matched this picture to the gun.
Agreed?
_________________Pinchy
The value of nothing is equal to the process which created it.
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:13 am
Hedgemon
Kl00
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 42 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Makes sense, but I don't see it. In the images, I mean.
Could be I'm blind, however.
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:31 am
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